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US Military Drones Migrating To Linux

DeviceGuru (1136715) writes "Raytheon is switching its UAV control system from Solaris to Linux for U.S. military drones, starting with a Northrop Grumman MQ-8C Fire Scout helicopter. Earlier this month Raytheon entered into a $15.8 million contract with the U.S. Navy to upgrade Raytheon's control systems for unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), according to a recent Avionics Intelligence report. The overhaul is designed to implement more modern controls to help ground-based personnel control UAVs. Raytheon's tuxified version of its Vertical Takeoff and Landing Unmanned Air Vehicle Tactical Control System (TCS) will also implement universal UAV control qualities. As a result the TCS can be used in in all U.S. Navy, Air Force, Army, and Marine Corps UAVs that weigh at least 20 pounds. By providing an open standard, the common Linux-based platform is expected to reduce costs by limiting the types of UAV control systems that need to be built and maintained for each craft."

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  1. 2014 year of the linux des!!!!##^^!@#!@#$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    NO CARRIER

    1. Re:2014 year of the linux des!!!!##^^!@#!@#$ by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...the year of Linux approaching your desktop at Mach 4 with all the precision of terminal laser guidance?

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  2. time for a new public licence by cleveralias · · Score: 4, Interesting

    free to use unless you intend to kill people.

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    1. Re:time for a new public licence by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why is killing people with closed source software morally superior?

    2. Re:time for a new public licence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The freedom to run the program, for any purpose, shall not be infringed.

    3. Re:time for a new public licence by aliquis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obama wanted to be able to claim his drones help spread freedom.

    4. Re:time for a new public licence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even the GPL covers this. You can argue that a shell shot by the drone is like a linked library to the drone. Therefore the victim has to see the GPL before being killed.

    5. Re:time for a new public licence by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

      Why is killing people with closed source software morally superior?

      Because, if you're a software engineer working on the Linux Kernel you can do so knowing that your work wont be used to kill people.

      (ok, they could just ignore the license... but you get my point)

    6. Re:time for a new public licence by Xtifr · · Score: 2

      free to use unless you intend to kill people.

      Would violate clause six of the Open Source Definition (and the Debian Free Software Guidelines): No discrimination against fields of endeavor.

    7. Re:time for a new public licence by evilviper · · Score: 3, Funny

      if you're a software engineer working on the Linux Kernel you can do so knowing that your work wont be used to kill people.

      I guess if they switched from Linux to OpenBSD, it would make EVERYBODY happier:

      "software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all (be they people or companies), for any purpose they wish to use it, including modification, use, peeing on, or even integration into baby mulching machines or atomic bombs to be dropped on Australia." - cvs@openbsd.org mailing list, May 29, 2001

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    8. Re: time for a new public licence by Richy_T · · Score: 2

      Paper zombies have feelings too.

    9. Re: time for a new public licence by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2

      Strawmen, however, are fair game...

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  3. What distro? by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 4, Funny

    Red Hat Military Edition? Killbuntu? Debian For Drones?

    1. Re:What distro? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Funny

      BSD - Blowing Shit up with Drones

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    2. Re:What distro? by bobbied · · Score: 2

      Slapware? GenToBoom? Puppy - Attack Dogfight version?

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  4. Re:.... on their own volition by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's been my experience that drones usually migrate to Microsoft products.

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  5. Finally by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Funny

    The killer app for linux has been finally released. This will be the year of the linux desktop, or at least the one when it will take off.

  6. Linux is not controlling the drones by Missing.Matter · · Score: 4, Informative

    As far as I can tell from reading the report, Linux is not installed on the drones themselves, but is running under the operations control suite. They would be absolutely insane not to be running an RTOS on the avionics of the drones. I do research on drones (no, not the $100 quadcopters you can buy from Toys R' Us) and autopilots, and wouldn't let Linux anywhere near the avionics.

    1. Re:Linux is not controlling the drones by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      Ditto in automotive.

      Life critical functions (E.G. ABS braking) don't even get an RTOS. There's one program running on a micro. You don't recurse. You don't loop (except for the while true at the outer). All state is static global variables.

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    2. Re:Linux is not controlling the drones by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Funny! While growing up my father was in charge of a team of guys that designed and built GMs first electronic speed sensor. Well, I'm not sure if it was their first but it was the first one to go into wide production and was also not-mechanical. He was working so much I ended up in the lab with him a lot. Watching those guys solve those problems is one of my most vivid memories from childhood. They had to babysit me while I played with all their test equipment and answer my silly questions about their project. Later my dad told me that was good for them. If they couldn't explain it to me, they wouldn't be able to explain it to GMs executives. lol

  7. Re:Killer question by bobbied · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just init.tab entries.. RunLevel 1 = take off, 2 is cruse, 3 is crash (not that kind...)

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  8. Re:Killer question by aliquis · · Score: 2

    No-one uses upstart.

    Also mir is dead. NASA confirms it.

  9. Re:But.... Windows 8 by aliquis · · Score: 3, Funny

    But.... Windows 8
    Why is Windows not an option?

    They couldn't find the start menu.

  10. Re:free software can be used for evil?! by CODiNE · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nonono, Mac OS X is NeXT.

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  11. Re:Neck beard rage by rubycodez · · Score: 2

    funny, most of the neck-bearded people I know were in the military.

  12. Re:But.... Windows 8 by Wookact · · Score: 2

    Judging from experience. If you installed WIn 8 for the drone it would turn on you.

  13. Kermit by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 2

    I vaguely remember that Kermit had a prohibition on military use back in the 1980s; maybe longer. That seems to have gone away. No sure if it's because Kermit is no longer controlled by Columbia University.

    Cheers,
    Dave

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  14. Re:Reminds me when by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    Sounds like one hell of an implausible urban legend.

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  15. Finally, "kill" or "killall" really work! by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Funny

    killall -9 "myenemies"

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    1. Re:Finally, "kill" or "killall" really work! by penguinoid · · Score: 2

      killall -9 "myenemies"

      Sadly, due to a bug in the drone's hardware, that command spawns 9 new enemies.

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  16. Year of the Linux everything but the desktop by Dega704 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, Linux is still a long way away from becoming prominent in that one particular area, but it certainly isn't having any trouble taking over everything else in the meantime. Every OS vendor is looking out their window and finding themselves surrounded by penguins.

  17. A second shell with source code ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Even the GPL covers this. You can argue that a shell shot by the drone is like a linked library to the drone. Therefore the victim has to see the GPL before being killed.

    People so frequently misunderstand the GPL. There is no obligation to provide source unless someone has the binary, and the publisher can wait until they ask. So to be GPL compliant the publisher only has to provide source to strike survivors if and when they ask. The publisher is also free to choose their own delivery mechanism so long as it is something commonly used, given the precedent of the first shell a second shell containing source would be compliant.

  18. Excellent! by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

    So if the NSA now knows of backdoors, it must inform the military so they can be patched, who will then be forced to publish the fixes. Right?

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