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Polio Causes Global Health Emergency

mdsolar (1045926) sends this news from Bloomberg: "The spread of polio to countries previously considered free of the crippling disease is a global health emergency, the World Health Organization said, as the virus once driven to the brink of extinction mounts a comeback. Pakistan, Cameroon and Syria pose the greatest risk of exporting the virus to other countries, and should ensure that residents have been vaccinated before they travel, the Geneva-based WHO said in a statement today after a meeting of its emergency committee. It's only the second time the United Nations agency has declared a public health emergency of international concern, after the 2009 influenza pandemic. Polio has resurged as military conflicts from Sudan to Pakistan disrupt vaccination campaigns, giving the virus a toehold. The number of cases reached a record low of 223 globally in 2012 and jumped to 417 last year, according to the WHO. There have been 74 cases this year, including 59 in Pakistan, during what is usually polio's 'low season,' the WHO said. "

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  1. But, but, but⦠autism!!1!11! by the_humeister · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck you Jenny McCarthy and your anti-vax followers.

    1. Re:But, but, but⦠autism!!1!11! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fuck you Jenny McCarthy

      I wouldn't do that. What if you catch something? Especially something preventable with vaccination!

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    2. Re:But, but, but⦠autism!!1!11! by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Because the efforts are global, and the feed into other anti-vaxxers, as well as fund them.

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    3. Re:But, but, but⦠autism!!1!11! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Because the efforts are global, and the feed into other anti-vaxxers, as well as fund them.

      Right, because misogynistic societies like Pakistan and Syria have a long history of giving a fuck what women have to say...

      Oh, not just women, but hedonistic Western women. Who became famous for sexual exploits.

      Yea, sure, that's the ticket...

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    4. Re:But, but, but⦠autism!!1!11! by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      No, it's the CIA that's responsible, not the anti-vaxxers.

  2. Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by ChilyWily · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It did not help that the CIA had a DNA collection, excuse me, "Intelligence gathering" operative working as a Doctor in one of the countries where the problem is the worst. Now health workers are getting assaulted and the poor who could get vaccinated, are without.

    1. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by mirix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep, this has to be one of the dumber plans the CIA has come up with. We were getting pretty close to entirely wiping out a second disease (after smallpox), and they had to go and screw it up to 'find terrists' or some such.

      Surely polio has killed and maimed more people than terrorists could dream of.

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    2. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd advocate the 'poetic justice' approach myself.

      A nice relaxing life sentence inside an iron lung would give the responsible parties plenty of time to think over the fact that the CIA's most serious targets, much less its biggest successfully averted incidents, are total chickenshit compared to what public health people (along with contemporary sanitation infrastructure) work to keep at bay.

    3. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What didn't happen was some asshat's desire to demonstrate his knowledge of "inside knowledge" outweighed the oath he or she took to keep their mouth(s) shut.

      It wasn't the method that was used to gather the intelligence that caused the problem, it was the disclosure of that method.

      Right... just like it isn't your fault if you lose business because you're selling clothes that don't actually exist -- it's the fault of the intern who broke his contract to tell people that they weren't wearing any clkothes.

      Shoot the messenger much?

      I'm sorry, but I'll take asshat with integrity over government operation that compromises global health integrity any day.

      After all, what's the problem if there's nothing to hide?

      Also: Doctors also take an oath. This one broke his oath before any other alleged oathbreaking took place (I pledge to uphold the Constitution trumps gag orders/NDAs, the Hippocratic oath trumps both).

    4. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by ChilyWily · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure... but when you have an enemy that calls innocent people dying as "collateral damage" and when they show no restraint with drone attacks and midnight raids, it is quite fearful for the local population to be very afraid of getting vaccinated because are you getting a real Doctor/Health care worker or are you getting into a CIA database where one day you will be killed? It doesn't help that one the other side you have the Taliban who now target *all* health care workers as working for the enemy... to the detriment of the poor people.

      The CIA has the big brains, the big budget and they may have gotten the 1 person they wanted, but the misery they brought to many people, many children at that, does not justify the means. They did much evil in that case and it will cause hurt to many.

      Is even a slap on the wrist not warranted for the CIA?
      I don't even want to start with the other things the US Government has done in the "homeland" such as the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments on African-Americans.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    5. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If only. The CIA took the Pakistani equivalent of the tinfoil hat brigade and elevated them by proving their point nearly to the letter.

      Thanks to them, any denial now is at best a half truth and will be seen through. No assurances will be enough to erase suspicion now.

    6. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. This is why it's a war crime to disguise combat troops or spies as medics. The GP's mindset is like the NSA's, that no action is too horrific as long a you don't get caught, potential consequences be damned.

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    7. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      They are like foolish children compared to educated Westerners who didn't grow up immersed in violent fundamentalist nutjobbery. Or perhaps they're closer to mentally ill.

      Anyway, the CIA taught them that medical staff cannot be trusted. There's a reason using medics for espionage and attack in war is a war crime, it's the same reason that using ambulances to transport SWAT teams and this incident were incredibly horrible, dangerous ideas with grave consequences that are now being felt.

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    8. Re:Any slap on the wrist for the CIA? by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They are like foolish children compared to educated Westerners who didn't grow up immersed in violent fundamentalist nutjobbery. Or perhaps they're closer to mentally ill.

      Lets see how sensible the Christianists are after their lives, land and countries have been fucked with for a century by Muslim Imperialism. After the state-run oil companies in Venezuela and Iran get together and overthrow the governments of the U.K. and the United States. After the Revolutionary Guard spends 15 years threatening the United States with total obliteration if it made use of a nuclear weapons program that it says does not exist. And says crippling sanctions that killed 5,000,000 kids in the U.S. (adjusted for population) was worth it.

      But I don't expect that partial list to make a dent in the cognitive dissonance in all the Bill Maher's running around in the comments.

  3. non-vaccination in Pakistan by OglinTatas · · Score: 4, Informative

    It couldn't have anything to do with this (CIA using polio vaccinations as cover) could it?

    http://articles.baltimoresun.c...

    1. Re:non-vaccination in Pakistan by tomhath · · Score: 5, Informative

      Taliban was recommending against polio vaccination long before that, because of rumors it causes sterilization. The CIA collecting DNA in Abbottabad from hepatitis (not polio) vaccinations didn't help though.

    2. Re:non-vaccination in Pakistan by sjames · · Score: 2

      To be fair, it wouldn't be the first time the U.S. engaged in forced sterilization.

  4. Not CDC, quacks by John3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    CDC made no such admission. http://www.skepticalraptor.com... Stop citing rumor websites.

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  5. Re:No cancer by tomhath · · Score: 4, Informative

    Stop twisting facts.

    Oh really? That article notes that from 1955 to 1963 the vaccine might have been contaminated with a virus that might cause cancer.

    To say that the vaccine "causes" cancer (present tense) is blatantly false.

  6. LOL...pages not found by John3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, a page with a total of two links, both broken, is far more credible than a blog post with over 50 links to medical and scientific articles, journals, studies, and stories.

    And what's not to trust about naturalnews.com, a site that links over and over again to articles and sources on naturalnews.com?

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  7. GOODTIMES will give you Dutch elm disease by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Informative
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  8. Re:Shouldn't have used it as a CIA cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I blame the media for spreading this. If it weren't for them the guise would have been left on and not uncovered making the world a safer place. I mean I'm all about freedom, but someetimes we have to give some up like freedom of press to keep me safe while I stuff my face with McDonald's new synthetic McRahib.

  9. Re:10% * 417 = ??? by Poingggg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, what the hell? 417 cases of polio last year reported. This has to be on par with the number of motorcycle deaths due to flying mammals.

    The problem is that it's infectuous. One person can infect several others, who infect more. Ever heard of exponential growth? If not, Google it.

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  10. CIA operatives should be flogged... by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time I read about that I want to flog the CIA operatives that thought that up.

    I mean, couldn't they have given out the REAL vaccine while they were at it? Or better yet, followed the rules of war and NOT imitated medical personnel?

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    1. Re:CIA operatives should be flogged... by Sabriel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Er, actually? Yes, the CIA deciding to flout the rules is indeed the CIA's fault.

      Otherwise, what's the point of fighting the Taliban, if not to protect the innocent and uphold the rule of law?

    2. Re:CIA operatives should be flogged... by Firethorn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Worse, it's important to remember that the Taliban isn't some organization that is evil 'just for the lulz'. It's a bad organization overall, yes, but one way to fight it is to rise above it's level and avoid giving them recruits because we do something stupid.

      Bing - If the people see healthcare workers as purely helpful people, then they won't want the Taliban attacking them, they'll resist them being attacked, etc...

      It's just like the prohibition on using holy sites as military points - doing so not only removes the protection from attack the site enjoys, but reduces the protection all the other sites enjoy. If we can keep our medical personnel from being seen as suspect, they're much better able to access these areas.

      If we 'take the high road', then it pushes the Taliban(who are not Al Qaeda) to toe the line better. If both sides are toeing the line, it makes peace easier.

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  11. Re:10% * 417 = ??? by Triklyn · · Score: 2

    incidentally, the when the polio eradication campaign started in the 80's it was three hundred thousand cases yearly. 2+ decades of coordinated international effort have dropped it to "flying mammals" levels.

  12. Re:Go ahead. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    It is suspected that distilled water also causes cancer. More research is needed, but the scientists are still fighting over the formulation of the non-distilled 'dirty' water to use for the control group.

  13. Re:10% * 417 = ??? by Uberbah · · Score: 2

    Why should anyone living on more than 5$ per day be worried about this? Are you commonly concerned about the anal-oral route for pathogens?

    Why don't you take an extended trip to an area with a Libertarian water supply and find out, Slick.

  14. She looks fuckable enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative