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Comcast: Destroying What Makes a Competitive Internet Possible

An anonymous reader writes "Vox has another in-depth report on the perilous state of net neutrality regulation, and how Comcast is attempting to undermine it. Quoting: 'In the bill-and-keep internet, companies at each "end" of a connection bill their own customers — whether that customer is a big web company like Google, or a an average household. Neither end pays the other for interconnection. ... ISP's typically do this by hiring a third party to provide "transit," the service of carrying data from one network to another. Transit providers often swap traffic with one another without money changing hands. ... The terminating monopoly problem occurs when a company at the end of a network not only charges its own customers for their connection, but charges companies in the middle of the network an extra premium to be able to reach its customers. In a bill-and-keep regime, the money always flows in the other direction — from customers to ISPs to transit companies. ... But when an ISP's market share gets large enough, the calculus changes. Comcast has 80 times as many subscribers as Vermont has households. So when Comcast demands payment to deliver content to its own customers, Netflix and its transit suppliers can't afford to laugh it off. The potential costs to Netflix's bottom line are too large.'"

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  1. Sigh... by koan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First they came for Netflix, and I did not speak up because I did not use Netflix.

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    "If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
    1. Re:Sigh... by s.petry · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pretty much this, but not exactly. How many of the average consumers getting Comcast "Hot Deals!®" realize the penalty for the deal? Not many. Just like with so many other things the only way to fight is by consumer knowledge. Since the same people (I'm tempted to use an ad hominem for them, but won't distract) that own Comcast own all of the Mass Media, consumers are once again either ignorant or lied to.

      EFF and others have been warning about this for years, hell we have debated this topic over and over on Slashdot. How do you wake consumers when you don't own any media? I guess we can hope that more of the SOPA type blackouts will occur, but I have doubts. It was effective once, but corporations hated it. Keep mailing those US House and Senate members, but also start tapping people on the shoulder. It's not like NBC is going to warn consumers of the dangers of monopolization.

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      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  2. Settlement-free peering and transit by gavron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These concepts were part of the commercial Internet circa the early 1990s
    and were part of the reason CIX was so successful. Then PAIX then others.

    In time, Internet exchanges were themselves bogged down and companies
    did private peering. Those who connected to like-quantity produders of
    content did so for free (settlement-free peering). Those who were unequal
    paid for transiting the network (paid transit).

    That hasn't changed in 32 years. All that's changed is the up and down of
    who provides more traffic where. The dominant player in each interconnection
    point ALWAYS demanded transit, and often did so with the "wherever our
    two networks meet" even if elsewhere it was not the dominant player.

    Comcast could be made to behave, but Netflix blinked and paid them money.
    Now others will as well.

    This CAN BE FIXED BY REGULATION but not the kind people are thinking
    of. No, not net neutrality. Rather the elimination of the cable-company
    monopolies on entire swaths of subscribers. Eliminate the government-granted
    access to rights-of-way, towers, utility poles, and infrastructure. Let them not
    have a "sole franchise" but rather be one of many competing in the market.

    Remove Comcast and their ilk from their high post as the monopolistic "owner"
    of all these households by fiat, and having to compete to keep them, and instead
    of throttling their peerings to make Netflix users (THEIR OWN CUSTOMERS)
    suffer... they'll get peering with netflix.

    More government regulation doesn't solve a market-driven problem. Removing the
    government regulation harming free competition is the key.

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  3. Re:Lobbyists are a HUGE part of the problem by OhPlz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The current President lied in his campaign promises to not appoint lobbyists, but I'm sure an Internet petition signed by a bunch of geeks will change his mind.

    Washington DC is useless to us.