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Nintendo Apologizes For Not Allowing Same-Sex Relationships In Life Sim Game
An anonymous reader writes "Nintendo has been taking heat recently for their decision not to allow same sex relationships in Tomodachi Life, an upcoming life simulation game for the 3DS. An advocacy group for LGBT issues said, 'In purposefully limiting players' relationship options, Nintendo is not only sending a hurtful message to many of its fans and consumers by excluding them, but also setting itself way behind the times.' The group also pointed out that The Sims allowed such choices over a decade ago. Nintendo originally replied that the game was not intended to be social commentary, and pointed out that the U.S. release of Tomodachi Life is just a localization of the Japanese version (gay marriage is not legal in Japan). Now Nintendo has officially apologized for 'failing to include same-sex relationships' in the game, and they promised to build a more inclusive experience if they make a sequel."
So, I can marry my purple tentacle with my demon-hunter magical schoolgirl?
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Nintendo will no longer publish this type of game outside of Japan. Either that, or they go back to region locking to the extreme... Where even if you have a NA version of the console, it will not work if located in Japan, because this kind of thing is illegal in their country.
Society is sure bending over for something like 1% of the population.
We should treat drug addicts and alcoholics as lovingly.
This is just dumb. It's a game!
I'm all for LGBT rights and such, but really to criticize a game just cuz it don't include your sexual orientation..? I dunno about that. What's next? Is the LGBT community going to demand air time in Disney cartoons next?
Besides, no one complained about Harvest Moon, another game that only permits heterosexual marriages. So what! It's a game!
For a family friendly company they completely dropped the ball when it comes to living my virtual harem fantasies.
The game is offensive unless it allows relationships between ethereal giraffe genderqueer fursonas and tri-curious pansexual midget doctors. Right?
Is it so bad that people just want to make a game that reflects the relationships the majority of people on Earth have? Do they really have to support every sexual minority to be "fair"?
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IMHO, whomever it is that is responsible should have his/her genitals spanked by each of the owners of the company.
Since it is a large public company someone(s) will be doing a lot of traveling around exposing themselves and their willy/VaJj whacked.
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That would take care of that problem...
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Whenever anything like this happens, the creator/company should... ...never respond. ...deflect any questions. ...brush off any further demands/questions. ...change nothing about the game in order to not risk alienating the users who like the game as it is. ...never lose your composure when dealing with these people.
Does anybody else think that this is ridiculous...?
This *IS* ridiculous, right Slashdot? Right?
These issues smack of a manufactured controversy.
This must be being done by some bad apples. Perhaps my experience was different but when I was in my 20's around gay people, they mostly wanted to just be accepted and/or left alone to do their own thing. I'm not sure where this community crossed the line into forcing their views upon others. I definitely really don't approve.
because Half Life 2 only allows me to play as a white guy. I should be allowed to play as Gina Freeman, Giovanni Fabianno, Guadalupe Fernandez, or Guela Feigenbaum.
This is just dumb. It's a game!
I'm all for minority rights and such, but really to criticize a game just cuz it includes insensitive stereotypes about your race? I dunno about that. What's next? Is the NAACP going to demand air time in Disney cartoons next?
Besides, no one complained about Final Fantasy VII, a game that shows one African-American as an "ignorant nigger". So what! It's a game!
We're alive, we're human, we deserve representation. The only thing political about this is the strange pretension that if you just don't talk about us we'll disappear.
Actually, the complaint arised when two people who owned already the game found out they couldn't have their Mii characters marry in the game. But let a fact not spoil your rant. Keep up the good work!
I demand the right to abuse and mistreat other players and NPCs in the game, to show my disgust at them, and to burn them at the stake because they are witches.
Why doesn't Nintendo tolerate my intolerance?
It does not mean that they are discriminating anyone. Being attracted to the opposite sex is the standard thing for mammals (and most creatures). Being a gay is anomaly. What if we made a game about hamsters, and they did not include any albino hamsters, would that be discrimination towards albinos? No. They are just focusing on the baseline, that's all.
Now, on the other hand, there is a lot of LGBT people, so making the game support same-sex relationships could have been a good business move.
We're alive, we're human, we deserve representation. The only thing political about this is the strange pretension that if you just don't talk about us we'll disappear.
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Not an abomination simulation.
The game contains what it contains; don't like it? Don't play it. Send a message with your wallet
And buy what game instead? Nintendo, Xbox, PlayStation, and iOS all have secret guidelines for what content is acceptable on their respective platforms.
You don't understand either. Everyone owes them a favor for all the great things they always do for the rest of us. Where's your gratitude? You should grovel for their forgiveness like Nintendo.
The reality is:teens and even adolescents sometimes kill themselves because they believe they do not fit in a make-believe worlds that ignorant people sometimes create.
I imagine a world without Nintendo.
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Nintendo needs to tell the LGBT crowd to get a life, be concerned with real issues, and pound some sand in the process.
Besides, no one complained about Harvest Moon, another game that only permits heterosexual marriages. So what! It's a game!
You must not have seen how bisexual Jamie is in Harvest Moon: Magical Melody.
Their feelings should be important to everyone because they're special. Not like the rest of you. You don't matter at all. You just exist to watch history unfold -- for the benefit of the chosen.
Especially irrelevant: the vision of the game's creators. Artists must comply!
Yeah, if the game was promoting homosexuality, there is no way in hell I would let a child play it. These are grown-up issues that shouldn't be on a child's mind when he's playing a video game.
Like another commenter I'm all for human rights. But the gay mafia thing has just gone a little too far. I really hope organizations start to tell them to just shut up. Having gay depicted in even aspect of life is getting more than a little tiresome. Really pretty soon they'll have to have characters of every race, every living arrangement, every transgendered combination, every disease, every handicap... they'll be ISO certification to make sure games are inclusive. Nobody will every be able produce a game.
Look my friends you're in a lifestyle LGBT is like 3% of the population. We certainly don't want discrimination but we also don't want to have to readjust everything so everyone in every minority feels totally included and no ones feelings are hurt. Life isn't fair, get over it.
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Fanny bandits only care about destroying society. You must either love gay sex or be sent to the gulags!!!
Actually, the complaint arised when two people who owned already the game found out they couldn't have their Mii characters marry in the game. But let a fact not spoil your rant. Keep up the good work!
It's a game. Games are not real life and don't always have to accommodate every single form of relationship. As far as I know without some modification you can't have same sex marriages in Skyrim either. Get over it.
In classic books (Shakespeare, Zola, Voltaire, Plato,...), marriage is between man and woman
Should we rewrite these because 1% of the population is LGBT ?
Several thousand of years of definition of marriage say that it's between a man and a woman.
Even now, there are more countries where you'd be executed for being homosexual than countries where same-sex union is accepted.
So, here, I stand with Nintendo. In their country, same sex union is illegal, as is many countries where their games are sold. In some countries, promoting homosexuality to minors is also illegal (think of Russia for example). So, they HAVE to be on the LEGAL SAFE way, even if a few people don't like it. (LGBT are 1% of population and I'm quite sure that many of them can understand that games may not always include their life choice).
Not all content (books, films, games) can be LGBT-friendly... it's not about annoying them, it's only because the world is not limited to "today in LGBT-friendly countries".
Especially irrelevant: the vision of the game's creators. Artists must comply!
Well, if Nintendo feels like the profitability of this series is going to be at stake because they decided not to include same-sex marriage, then, yeah, they are going to comply.
Even with a Kickstarter campaign, how would such people come up with the "relevant game industry experience", "stable business organization", and "list of published game titles" that Nintendo expects?
Racial equality wasn't achieved by black people voting with their wallets.
Are you claiming that the Montgomery, AL, transit boycott of 1955-1956 didn't help?
As far as I know without some modification you can't have same sex marriages in Skyrim either. Get over it.
Skyrim always allowed same-sex marriage.
Well, whomever screams "fa$$ot" loudest usual is.
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I'm not sure where part of the plot hinges on a character's distinctive outfit. Consider the famous overalls in Super Mario RPG or the hero's tunic in pick a Legend of Zelda game. It'd be interesting to hear how you suggest that the developers make the non-player characters react to the player's choice of appearance.
LGBT is 1% of Nintendo Buyers.
And most LGBT people won't care/complain...
So, it'll be 1/10000, 1/20000 or even less (don't forget that Nintendo primary commercial targets are children and Japan where same sex union is illegal) who could decide to not buy the game... unlikely to have any impact to Nintendo profitability...
And if Nintendo decides to implement it, it'll require lots of extra-development as they'll have to comply with local laws of some countries (including their own) where same sex union is forbidden. which means lots of extra costs...
And maybe as many (or more) people *not* buying the game because same sex union is allowed in it and they are strongly opposed to it...
Try approximately 1% of the population. The wiki here shows 3.8% average but when you look at how they estimate numbers their estimates are grossly incorrect. For example people that express "curiosity" are counted, as are those that may have experimented at some point in time. Here is a quote to show the inaccuracy clearly.
According to the Williams Institute review conducted in April 2011, approximately 3.80 % of American adults identify themselves being in the LBGT community; wherein, (1.70%) identify as lesbian or gay, bisexual (1.80%), and/or transgender (0.30%);
The way they get the 3.8% number is to tally up all of the results, yet there is no control preventing people from answering to multiple categories. Depending on who is running the study, bisexuals may automatically be counted as lesbian or gay. Other studies may ask the questions separately, but a bisexual person would normally respond that they have same sex relationships so are also lesbian or gay. People identifying themselves as transgender are bisexual, gay, or lesbian (don't make the mistake of jumping to circular reasoning on that one) almost all of the time.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
there is no way in hell I would let a child play it
Then perhaps they should instead be playing games that don't let player characters get married in the first place. Heterosexual life partnership is likewise a "grown-up issue[] that shouldn't be on a child's mind when he's playing a video game." This rules out a lot of Harvest Moon games, as one of the goals is to make one of the NPCs your waifu.
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of your cock in my mouth. -another man
Really pretty soon they'll have to have characters of every race, every living arrangement, every transgendered combination, every disease, every handicap
Should I take a step toward this "every handicap"? Here's a video of my prototype so far.
. . . 'In purposely limiting players' relationship options. . .
FTFY. "Purposefully" means something else.
Nintendo is going to be blasted either way. As a game that is rated for everyone, and as a company that is seen as a children's toy company, if they included it, the latest controversy will be that this toy company is trying to indoctrinate everyone's precious little snowflakes into the homosexual agenda. I'm sure that either Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or and one of the Fox News cadre will call for a boycott of all Nintendo products and all the ignorant middle age assholes that actually give credence to what these people say will be going around with signs saying, "God hates Mario" or whatever. While Nintendo isn't as utterly screwed as the media like to portray it as, that kind of bad publicity would put them into a very bad place.
However, the big problem was that same sex relationships were possible in the Japanese version of the game via what Nintendo calls a "bug." If it was never possible in the first place, it could have been defended as a simple design decision, but by having it possible and getting rid of it, the media is spinning it as some sort of social commentary by Nintendo. So, by fixing the bug, now they are getting the wrath of the LGBT community and are facing the kind of bad publicity that they really don't need right now.
Basically, all this will do is ensure that these kind of social simulators will remain as Japan only.
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These are just avatars in a game. Someone actively decided that certain rules would apply to their interactions - there was no necessity to impose any societal values on those interactions, players would simply have applied those values they felt appropriate for themselves. In other words, the developers decided to impose their own vision of societal norms when there was no real need to do so.
This is a very similar issue to the "emoji racism" campaign - someone actively designed the almost-exclusively-white characters, even though there was no functional or other requirement to exclude black faces. It almost certainly wasn't concious racism - they just failed to think beyond their limited personal experience and reflect the wider world.
That's a reasonable thing to call out.
Not that voting with my wallet is relevant here; they don't make anything interesting anyways and my 3DS XL is a piece of shit.
I can kinda maybe understand being upset at us queers demanding to be in every type of media ever, but when Nintendo acted to exclude us as they did here, FUCK THEM.
What about adoption?
I'd guess probably half of popular video games with child or adolescent player characters probably have dead or missing parents. There are plenty of storytelling design patterns related to orphans, such as Parental Abandonment, Conveniently an Orphan, and Deceased Parents Are the Best.
I'm not a pedophile. And you can just come try to kill me. You'll find your worthless carcass riddled with hollow points in no time. ;)
More girls are raped than boys, so it would seem that more pedophiles are heterosexual.
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Since there are much more (10 to 100 times more) heterosexuals than there are homosexuals, the contrary would be quite damning.
Well..then... you can't have same sex marriage in Zelda either. Get over it and offa my lawn.
Its creative fictional entertainment. Demanding to be added to someone elses fictional universe for fairness sake is absurd lol. "Dear author, I demand you add me to your book RIGHT NOW!!!"
The problem is that Japan is not a LGBT-friendly country (well, it's not a country with laws supporting it, though it's a country that doesn't actively kill their populace for engaging in weird fetishes either.)
If Tomodachi Life had intended to be localized for American audiences from the beginning, it may still not have had the feature. Hell games like "the Sims" doesn't even have it. The only game I'm actually aware of that has the "gay marry" option is Mabinogi, and that's a feature only available in the American version because, again, the Koreans don't recognize GLBT-friendly stuff either.
When will LGBT become LGBTA group, get with the times, people want relationships with animals now. Why should it be limited to the human species? Maybe the group should get ahead of the game and include robot relationships. Normal people do not want to see same sex relationships, It frankly should stay out of children's games, parents don't want their children to turn gay by playing a simulation game.
Nintendo will need to change the name from Tomodachi Life to Tomodachi Existance, or something...
Same sex relationships are Life ending.
I generally am supportive towards LGBT people, and will continue to be, but it's becoming apparent that they are also a little bit of whiney.
Nintendo are being morally responsible by protecting the family unit in Putin-esque spirit and should be commended. I'm all for gay rights, but not broadcasting the issue. Nintendo should just have ignored the whiners in question.
Who brought up Wii? The article states that the game in question is made for Nintendo 2DS and 3DS. The big advantages of the 2DS and 3DS over (say) Android are 1. the centralized avatar builder, which this game uses, and 2. the discrete directional controls and trigger buttons without having to buy a MOGA clip-on gamepad that I haven't actually seen anyone use. The disadvantage is Nintendo's bias against first-timers.
The much-quoted "one in ten" is not a statistic, it's propaganda. It's been thoroughly debunked time and again. Real-world statistics show a worldwide average of under 1% with some nations or states being as high as 5%.
LGBT is 1% of Nintendo Buyers.
Citation?
Why would removing a single if statement in the code involve that much extra work. In fairness, adding that if in the first place was the extra work.
It's not so much altering the game to allow same sex marriage as they shouldn't have put in the extra code to prohibit it in the first place.
Not to mention different-species marriage!
So why implement a gender check in the first place? To not allow same sex marriage was a design choise, not a mistake.
And maybe as many (or more) people *not* buying the game because same sex union is allowed in it and they are strongly opposed to it...
This. The issue is a controversial one in many regions.
is he going to face detention now?
Because marriage in the game is intended to produce children (note: not applying that to reality at this time, please don't argue that), and having two characters of the same sex breaks the game when it attempts to determine which character is the father and which is the mother.
It was literally a crash bug, which is why they patched it out.
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
You're assuming that only men can be paedophiles. I find your misandry highly offensive.
No one said they had to comply. They're free to ignore the complaints from their customers just as the customers are free to not buy any more games from nintendo. Seeming as how Nintendo has already apologised it seems that it isn't a case of artistic merit.
Fuck, they will stand on their soapbox and complain about everything. Inclusiveness is one thing, but the arrogance in expecting companies to cater everything to the 1% its just a useless powerplay.
We're not reading about this because two people complained. Nintendo would have ignored a protest by 2 people. Do all protesters own the game? I doubt it.
Nintendo, I didn't buy your sim game and I never played it, but I especially wouldn't have bought it or played it had you made it possible for same sex marriages on your game. Give us a break. Don't apologize for doing the right thing.
1-2%: Selection Bias and Lying. Also self-deception.
Sexuality, like many human complex characteristics is almost certainly a continuum. Probably a relatively flat bell-curve.
IOW most people are actually bisexual by nature (genotype), it is nurture (especially the social environment) that determines phenotypes and behavior.
Citation: Compare US to Ancient Greece and Rome (Citizens) as well as modern permissive tribal cultures. Compare Western Europe to US. Compare US to Russia or China. etc.
Sexual expression is heavily, perhaps overwhelmingly affected by society. So all these 'studies' mean fuck all if they do not take that into account. Read Kinsey and Masters and Johnson in depth for an introductory understanding of these ideas. And we have gone way beyond that in understanding. Actually gathering statistics - almost impossible because of confounding factors. Instead - observe populations and how they act based on what is socially acceptable.
TLDR: It really is a choice for many people. Given a free and open choice most of us would have lots more sex with a wide variety of genders.
Yes, it's a game. And no one is forced to buy it. And Nintendo is free to market it to a smaller portion of the potential buyership by restricting it artificially. I wouldn't have bought it because of those artificial restictions. And I am straight. And because there are not only LBGTs complaining, but the market just shrank by Nintendo acting inconsiderately, Nintendo made a turnaround and will patch the game in the next release. And now you complain that Nintendo tries to appeal to a buyership you don't like? You are allowed to try to stir up a shitstorm like the one that caught Nintendo right now. If you prevail and Nintendo again removes the patch again, you win. And what exactly will you have won?
But the game is launched in June, right?
Lets just make some numbers up on the spot to validate what I want to say. Ah the joys of the internet.
We're sorry we didn't do it in this universe, but we might do it in an alternate, parallel universe. Try switching to other universe to see.
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If they hadn't done that, then it wouldn't have affected people who only wanted to do opposite-sex marriages.
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A large percentage of video games involve killing people, which is generally illegal, often using weapons which would be illegal in the countries the games are sold in (if the laws of physics allowed your BFG-9000 and Death Ray to exist.) Also, a number of countries have laws affecting who can get married, and this game certainly isn't implementing lots of checks on whether you've been married before or are a citizen or whatever.
They went out of their way to write code to disallow same-sex marriage; if they hadn't checked for it, it should have worked fine. It's a different case than not including polygamy, where you have to take a whole bunch of data structures that have two entries and expand them to larger numbers (but not larger than four, if you're in a Muslim country.)
_xeno_ commented below that the real reason it's there is that the marriage feature leads to children, and that was breaking on the code for identifying the parents of the child (what, Heather has two mommies?) Ok, so this was a cheap-ass fix, but it wouldn't have been that much work to do a better fix; if nothing else, don't allow same-sex couples to have kids, instead of not allowing them to get married. Still unrealistic, but less so.
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Video games don't even have to obey the laws of physics, much less national and local laws. It's nice if they can at least obey the laws of Cartoon Physics consistently, for whatever version of that they choose to implement.
Is there a Japanese-localized version of Grand Theft Auto?
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In this case it is not "just a game" it is social commentary. Same sex relationships are "wrong" according to this game.
Hahaha disregard that inane homophobic drivel, I suck cocks!!!!!
Just because gay marriage is not recognized in Japan doesn't mean that it is illegal in any way to discuss or depict it in any media. I have no Idea how you could come to such a conclusion.
Consoles' firmware already contain an ID for a region, but regions are coarser than countries. Besides, it's often fairly easy for people to relocate from one region with very different levels of acceptance of expressions of homosexuality. Consider the United States of America, a federal republic whose several states disagree on whether to recognize same-sex domestic partnerships. Also consider the Schengen Area, which includes most of mainland western Europe.
Surely you have to factor in how honestly people will respond to the question, too?
Attitudes to gay rights are making significant progress right now, but I doubt you can sweep away decades of oppression and living in hiding so quickly.
[Console makers] have secret guidelines for what content is acceptable
PCs don't
True, desktop allows unlimited sideloading, and Microsoft publishes its Windows Store guidelines. But carrying a 3DS would appear far more convenient than carrying a laptop.
FYI, Skyrim allows same sex marriages without mods.
Base rate fallacy.
A group of consumers told Nintendo that this feature was important to them. In an attempt to increase future sales in western markets, Nintendo stated that they will include this feature in subsequent installments of the game.
It's the free market in action. Stop your whining commie.
You do not have to do any modification whatsoever in Skyrim to have a same sex marriage.
And you're not really straight... you're counted twice as a bisexual and a straight guy for fucking a women. What an asshole.
Act IV, Scene III
ACT IV, SCENE III, CONTINUED
Lifts-Her-Tail: Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.
Crantius Colto: Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?
Lifts-Her-Tail: I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.
Crantius Colto: So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.
Lifts-Her-Tail: You embarrass me, sir!
Crantius Colto: Fear not. You are safe here with me.
Lifts-Her-Tail: I must finish my cleaning, sir. The mistress will have my head if I do not!
Crantius Colto: Cleaning, eh? I have something for you. Here, polish my spear.
Lifts-Her-Tail: But it is huge! It could take me all night!
Crantius Colto: Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.
Please do show us your source for these numbers.
Dudes sucking cock is all the rage. Keep up with the times man! Fucking conservative pussy eaters...
No, you keep up with the times! It's horse cock now! Goatse was a visionary.
Homosexual pairing has been observed in other mammalian species. What makes you think it wouldn't be just as present in elves, in little people, or in giant flying lizards?
It's a good thing governments specifically included marriages in video games as also illegal. Oh wait, they don't.
You're just afraid that cock might taste good. Which it does by the way :)
F* the LGBT!!! I am SO sick and tired of their Mafia tactics. People have the RIGHT to NOT accept their garbage! If they don't like it TOUGH $H!t!! They just need to GET OVER I!!! I'm not Racists - I hate everyone equally! I'm just so done with their "we have the the right to exist, but no one else has the right not not accept us." - He LGBT - gutess what LOTS OF PEOPLE DO NOT ACCEPT your lifestyle - get the F* over it! Get over yourselves you sick and twisted get over it!!!
The Truth is a Virus!!!
Bitch please ... the gays are going to inherit the earth. Now get back down the glitter mines. Dig mumma up something pretty!
The big picture hasn't changed. This "outrage" comes conspicuously right after Nintendo announced substantial losses. One political group (LBGT) is pouncing on the chance to manipulate a financially weakened company who has an objectively HUGE influence over American youth. This has nothing to do about tolerance or equality, and the Social Justice Warrior movement is basically the LBGT equivalent of the Black Panthers.
I would consider buying it if they do include same sex marriage in the future. I'm straight, married to a woman, and not into dudes at all. But, I'm all for games that include the option. I'm for human equality or whatever you want to call it, and while it may not have affected my buying choice beforehand, if Nintendo DOES include samesex marriage then I'll be more inclined to buy because they were thoughtful enough to implement it after this "incident." I'd rather a company be sensitive to 1/1000 of potential customers than not, and that means a lot to me as one of the 999/1000 that it might appeal to.
This is just wishful thinking. You don't want to be part of the minority so you make up reasons to discard the data.
More girls are raped than boys, so it would seem that more pedophiles are heterosexual.
No, more girls report being raped than boys. And more males are convicted of rape than females. But that does not mean that girls are raped more often or that boys are more likely to be rapists.
And it also ignores the fact that rape is a matter of opinion- as long as the "rapee" does not consider it rape, then it's not.
I like the point that your post makes.
But I like the implication your post makes more. You know - the implication that only men commit rape.
Simple solution - drop marriage altogether. Just goes to show why our civilization can't have nice things, they'd have to be implemented for every nook and cranny of society or all of a sudden the twitterverse is filled once again with "We are downtrodden!"
Can you have children in skyrim ?
You do realize that video game marriages aren't real, right? It would only be a problem to sell the game in countries where it is illegal to PORTRAY same sex marriages, not perform them (which is what, UAE, Singapore, other places where the game would probably be banned for a dozen other reasons anyway?). Those countries are far far fewer and far far smaller markets for video games than the ones where it is illegal to perform the ceremony, but not illegal to portray them in fiction. They'd probably not lose anything by simply not selling or marketing the game to those few countries.
Do you know, in gay speak, "straight" just means "virgin".
For many more people than you would expect, there is a person they would be gay for, in the right circumstances. There are some people who make a game out of finding these people and these circumstances. Personally, I get propositioned by straight guys without even having to go looking. Just imagine:
You've been out drinking and carousing with some young, handsome, clean-cut guy: a man's man, with the body and charisma of a young Brad Pitt, or maybe Tom Cruise. Maybe you went clubbing, and he was just as into the ladies as you were, and more successful at gaining their attention. Neither of you score, though, and somehow you transition to a more intimate situation -- for a nightcap, say. Adonis puts his hand on your thigh, and with eyes and a smile that tell you he knows everything about how to make another man feel good, he suggests that you get to know each other better.
Kinsey says at least 10% would say yes, and I would say this is an underrepresentation.
I wouldn't want my children exposed to a game that normalized homosexual marriage, personally. I'm disappointed in Nintendo for not having the moral compass to stand up to these deviant's. They make games for children, for Christ's sake.
This is just so very wrong.
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Yep, far better to send children the message that it doesn't exist or shouldn't be talked about. That won't have any negative consequences for them later on in life.
Your attitude is, if anything, worse than that of the noisy crazies like Westboro. Your attitude is to hide it as if it is something dirty. A parent with an attitude like that is part of what causes the high suicide rate in the LGBT youth. If you are a parent then I pity them. They have an ignorant fool for a parent.
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...You should not be able to marry all thirty of them.
Oops, wait, the same sex marriage people say you shouldn't. How ironic.
I didn't complain, I was just pointing out that it's only a game.
LGBT is 1% of Nintendo Buyers.
Around 5% of the human race is gay. I couldn't find good stats for bisexual and transgender demographics, but in any case we are talking about an issue that affects at least 1 in 20 people directly, and their close friends and family indirectly.
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Slowly drifting into oblivion. But then, I can't wait to play Zelda on my iPhone :-)))))))))))))))))
We've become so sensitive on such insignificant bullshit like this.
Let's turn this around. What if a game only allowed gay/lesbian marriages, how would you respond to that? Would you still use the argument "So what! It's a game!"?
Did you read your own article? 3.8% of adults self-identify as being in the LGBT community. In addition, many more people are attracted to the same sex but do not self-identify as LGBT:
According to the Williams Institute review conducted in April 2011, approximately 3.80 % of American adults identify themselves being in the LBGT community; wherein, (1.70%) identify as lesbian or gay, bisexual (1.80%), and/or transgender (0.30%); which corresponds to approximately 10 million adult Americans as of the 2010 Census.[2] However, a measurable higher percentage acknowledge having same-sex attraction, or experience, without identifying as LGBT. This makes it difficult to accurately record the demographics of LGBT community in the U.S.
Curiously it is illegal in North Carolina to perform a same sex marriage ceremony simulation. Sure, you cannot get the government paperwork and everyone knows this but a minister doing the deed anyway is a criminal. So the government is being sued on 1st amendment religious freedom grounds by churches and ministers. You were saying?
Sodomites rule the world.
Next pedos and animals shaggers will won't including :(
I for one will not be playing the filth.
Reality is that which survives all attempts to deny it's existence. We've had same-sex relationships since we've had humans. And denial- by deliberate editing one reality out of a game- is denial at the core. Hell, like as not there's MORE money to be made from inclusiveness than exclusion. Quite apart from the purported social values cruft that usually gets invoked about now. Rest assured- in time- the money will dictate inclusion if nothing else does first. Me personally- I wish the companies would GTFU and act adult= have some diversity options.
When someone says "I'm straight, married to a woman, and not into dudes at all.". I generally subtext that in the same way I do the phrase "Some of my best friends are black!"
I've been parroting this for a while. Rather than be annoyed at someone else's non-standard (ooh, heaven forbid I say that) Implementation, just eliminate it.
I saw the commercial, and i instantly thought of my childhood game Tomagotchi Life!!!! Why is nintendo supposdly stealing and changing the name of Tomagatchi Life?
It's pretty much Apple, Nintendo, PlayStation, and Xbox that still have lockouts
Apple's OS X App Store might have restrictions (I don't know, though I wouldn't be surprised), but you can still install arbitrary programs from whatever source you like
True, a Mac is like a Windows PC in this respect. But perhaps I wasn't clear enough that I was referring to iOS, not OS X. The privilege to install whatever you want on an iPod touch, iPhone, or iPad costs $99 per year, plus $650 if your current computer happens to be something other than a Mac.
It isn't normal. No need to be such a prick.
They shouldn't have complied. It just gives the pressure groups another taste of blood.
No. With an add-on, you can adopt. So the outrage against Nintendo is pathetic and unjustified.
Why is homosexuality the only thing that people ever talk about anymore?
Why does a children's video game corporation have to join an activist movement or face consequences? Just leave Nintendo alone.
Just saying, only way of creating little humans is to put two guys in the mood.
You can guess.
Such marriages aren't recognized under Japanese law, but there is no legal obstacle to depicting them in a video game, or any other media, for that matter. Whether it would be controversial and affect Nintendo's sales is another question, though people don't seem to politicize this sort of issue so much in Japan to begin with (which has both its good and its bad aspects, as the lack of legal recognition of such unions indicates).