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Oil Man Proposes Increase In Oklahoma Oil-and-Gas Tax

Hugh Pickens DOT Com (2995471) writes "Daniel Gilbert reports at the WSJ that Oklahoma oil man George Kaiser is breaking with fellow energy executives in asking the state to raise taxes on oil companies, including his own. 'Oklahoma is in desperate financial circumstances,' says the billionaire who controls Kaiser-Francis Oil Co. Kaiser says a higher tax on oil-and-gas production could help the state pay for education and much needed infrastructure improvements, and is asking legislators to return the state's gross production tax to 7 percent, challenging a plan proposed by fellow oil company executives who want to see the rate settle at 2 percent for the first four years of production.

Several energy companies and the State Chamber of Oklahoma say that lower tax rates for the costliest oil and gas wells are necessary to continue drilling at a pace that has stimulated economic activity and created other sources of revenue. Berry Mullennix, CEO at Tulsa-based Panther Energy, credits the tax program for helping his company grow to more than 90 employees, up from 18 a few years ago. 'I would argue the tax incentive is a direct reason we have so much horizontal drilling in the state today,' Mullennix says ... When companies decide to drill a well, they make their best guesses on how much it will cost to drill the well, how much the well will produce and what the commodity price will be. All of those estimates can vary widely, Kaiser says. 'With ad valorem taxes, the difference among states is 2 or 3 or 4 percent. The other factors can vary by 50 or 100 percent.' Compared with those other factors, Kaiser says the tax rate is incidental. 'It's a rounding error.'"

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  1. Everyone prepare for Armageddon! by killfixx · · Score: 3, Funny

    An oil tycoon wants to give more of his money away, on purpose! Truly this is the first sign of the end of days!

    Good for him... He thinks he doesn't pay enough taxes... That's mind blowing.

    Weird.

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    1. Re:Everyone prepare for Armageddon! by BKDotCom · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, George Kaiser is Tulsa's largest philanthropist (perhaps in Oklahoma)
      he's donated millions to Tulsa's park system.
      Including at least a $100 million for a park project that begins construction this year
      http://agatheringplacefortulsa...

    2. Re:Everyone prepare for Armageddon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean he wants to divide the costs of infrastructure evenly amongst the people who benefit it? Outrageous! Someone get the rope!

    3. Re:Everyone prepare for Armageddon! by ibwolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As if cutting/reducing services does not place a burden on its citizens?

      If something can be cut without the citizens noticing it, then cut it (regardless of overall financial health, it's just waste).

      But most services are there for a reason. It may be a lesser burden (especially if you take the long term view) to raise taxes than to allow certain services to degrade past the point of utility.

  2. Idle threats by tedgyz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The other companies that argue higher taxes would scare them from drilling are full of crap. How about paying a fair share to keep the infrastructure well maintained and the populace well educated?

    As the last line of the summary says. Compared with those other factors, Kaiser says the tax rate is incidental. 'It's a rounding error.'"

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    1. Re:Idle threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Uhh huh

      http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/16-giant-corporations-have-basically-stopped-paying-taxes

      "General Electric: The worst tax record over five years, with $81 billion in profits and a $3 billion refund.

      Boeing: In addition to receiving a refund despite $21.5 billion in profits, the company ranked high in job cutting, underfunded pensions, and contractor misconduct.

      Exxon Mobil: Made by far the largest profits in the group, but paid less than 1% in U.S. taxes, and yet received oil subsidies along with their tax breaks. Unabashedly reports a 2012 "theoretical tax" of over $27 billion, almost 90% of its total income tax expense. The company was also near the top in contractor misconduct.

      Verizon: Second worst tax record, with a refund despite $48 billion in profits.

      Kraft Foods: Received a refund from the public despite $13.5 billion in profits. Also a leading job-cutter.

      Citigroup: One of the five big banks who are estimated to get a bailout/refund from the American public amounting to three cents from every tax dollar.

      Dow Chemical: Received a refund despite almost $10 billion in profits.

      IBM: Paid less than 3% in taxes while ranking as one of the leading job cutters, and near the top in contractor misconduct.

      Chevron: In addition to a meager 4.3% tax rate and a share of oil subsidies, the company has been the main beneficiary of tax-exempt government bonds."

      Wheres my $3 billion refund?!?

  3. Lack of demand, not capital, not labor is the key. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Berry Mullennix, CEO at Tulsa-based Panther Energy, credits the tax program for helping his company grow to more than 90 employees, up from 18 a few years ago. 'I would argue the tax incentive is a direct reason we have so much horizontal drilling in the state today,' Mullennix says

    It would be far more efficient to tax the damned company and keep it at 18 people and use the money to bridges and roads and schools. That would create far more than the measly 72 jobs created by that company.

    Look, these entrepreneurs are hard negotiators. If the taxpayers start with, "please please please create some jobs", they will ask for an arm and a leg. You give them an arm and a leg they will be back next year, "an arm and a leg? That was last year. What are you gonna give us this year?". You give another arm and a leg. And the year after they ditch you and go to the next country or state or country because, "your state has people without arms and legs, we can't employ them".

    There is plenty of capital. If this Panther Energy does not want to invest there will be a Jaguar Energy or Tiger Energy. The capital markets are sloshing with 3 trillion dollars not knowing where to invest. Tell them the same thing they tell their employees, "this is what this job pays, if you don't like it, keep moving there are plenty who would work at this wage". Well, "this is what costs to do business in our state. If you don't like it, keep moving there are plenty of other investors for us". Unless the tax payer negotiates like this, you will not get anywhere. These crony capitalists invest in the election system, and get their own shills elected as legislators and government executives. That is why money in politics is so insidious.

    What we now lack is demand. That is what is stifling the growth. Not the lack of capital, Not the lack of labor (lack of labor would lead to wage inflation). What we need is tough negotiators to represent the tax payers in the government.

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  4. Re:that new new... by pogopogo · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, he's the opposite of Limbaugh -- he's a philanthropist.

    He was listed as the third largest donor behind Warren Buffett and Bill and Melinda Gates in 2008. He's also taken the Giving Pledge to give away half of his wealth to charity. The George Kaiser Family Foundation gives millions to the causes of education, child poverty, and community health services.

    He's been proposing eliminating tax breaks for oil and gas companies for years. He would rather the money go to health and education.

    He's not using this as a political stunt, he's willing to put his money where it counts instead of just being a blowhard like Limbaugh.

  5. Re:Stop the presses! by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A rich asshole who has everything life has to offer feels guilty and proposes liberal ideas. No! Say it ain't so! That's SO unique!

    Wrong! Headline reads, "CEO of an established oil company, seeks to eliminate subsidy on new competitors, while pretending to be self-sacrificing."

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