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How Firefox Will Handle DRM In HTML

An anonymous reader writes "Last year the W3C approved the inclusion of DRM in future HTML revisions. It's called Encrypted Media Extensions, and it was not well received by the web community. Nevertheless, it had the support of several major browser makers, and now Mozilla CTO Andreas Gal has a post explaining how Firefox will be implementing EME. He says, 'This is a difficult and uncomfortable step for us given our vision of a completely open Web, but it also gives us the opportunity to actually shape the DRM space and be an advocate for our users and their rights in this debate. ... From the security perspective, for Mozilla it is essential that all code in the browser is open so that users and security researchers can see and audit the code. DRM systems explicitly rely on the source code not being available. In addition, DRM systems also often have unfavorable privacy properties. ... Firefox does not load this module directly. Instead, we wrap it into an open-source sandbox. In our implementation, the CDM will have no access to the user's hard drive or the network. Instead, the sandbox will provide the CDM only with communication mechanism with Firefox for receiving encrypted data and for displaying the results.'"

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  1. Personal DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What we need to do is figure out how to apply DRM to the personal information emanating from our machines. You will then be able to lawfully defend against those who profit from that information. Of course you could work out an arrangement to get a slice of the gross coinage as well ;).

  2. Re:Isn't hard drive access desirable? by Microlith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's important that a browser protect me and my rights on my system, not the business model of other DRM-happy corporations.

  3. Re:Ayn Rand Quote Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You don't think quoting a crank is insightful or useful in any way, do you?

     

    No, but I just did so anyway.

  4. Re:I don't like DRM either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But this is an open-source browser we're talking about. If we don't want DRM, we can make a build of it without the DRM piece.

    Being open-source has nothing to do with this. The number of people who will use a fork is essentially zero when compared to Firefox's total userbase.

    The problem is that Mozilla has thrown away the power that comes from being able to speak for hundreds of millions of users out of fear of losing some of those users. That's a path to irrelevancy, they've traded the vision that made them popular in the first place for the hope of maintaining marketshare. It is a total MBA move, as if Mozilla should be driven by profits instead of advocacy.

  5. Re:Isn't hard drive access desirable? by Ash+Vince · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As with all DRM schemes, it's only a matter of time before this is broken.

    DRM being crackable is not actually that important, what matters is how difficult it is for the average user. You only have to make it slightly tricky or add some slight perceived risk to downloading pirated stuff and they will choose to pay for it instead. For most people with a bit of cash the hassle factor of DRM is what keeps them on the straight and narrow, for the people without cash who cares, they probably would not have paid for it anyway.

    Some people who pirate lots of stuff eventually grow into big paid consumers of stuff when they get a bit money, but when they do they often end up forgetting about their strict stance on DRM and just sign up with Netflix or Lovefilm or whatever based on how convenient it is for them. Who cares about keeping a copy of the latest crap to come out of content permanently, just give us lots of stuff to watch on demand and most of the time as consumers those of us with money are happy.

    Does Firefox's architecture actually get in the way of users eventually pirating the content?

    It's not really the job of browser vendors to make sure you can be a freeloading shithead is it? Their job is to make a product that as many people find useful as possible and that means a certain amount of mass appeal. Refusing to support this part of the standard would have robbed Firefox of more users than they will lose by supporting it.

    The reality is that people who view piracy as some sort of moral duty and right like you do are in the minority, that is why most of the public quite happily go along with more stringent copyright laws being drafted by the politicians they elect. That means that creating a browser that will be unusable for certain sites that want to protect their content will just drive users away.

    BTW, I actually also think DRM is a joke and a complete waste of space and that more companies should trust us to buy their content if we like it. I spend a fortune on services like netflix and cable TV. I also think though that people who refuse to pay should do without, pure and simple. Anything other than that is freeloading off those of us who pay.

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  6. Re:Isn't hard drive access desirable? by Blue+Stone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >Does Firefox's architecture actually get in the way of users eventually pirating the content? Might have to switch browsers if that's the case.

    Remember, DRM doesn't just stop 'piracy', it stops fair use of copyright content too.

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  7. Re:Isn't hard drive access desirable? by N.+Criss · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I steal your boat then you have no boat. If I "steal" your information then we both have the information. Copying is not theft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...