Samsung Apologizes For Workers' Leukemia

itwbennett writes: "In an emailed statement, Samsung offered its 'sincerest apology' for the sickness and deaths of some of its workers, vowing to compensate those affected and their families. So far there have been 26 reported victims of blood cancers who worked in Samsung's Gi-Heung and On-Yang semiconductor plants. Ten have died. Other alleged workplace-related illnesses include miscarriages, infertility, hair loss, blood disorders, kidney troubles and liver disease."

Comments

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[royallthefourth]

"If they don't like cancer, they're free to find another job!"

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

You need to add something about obamacare and hosts files.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Or "hey, at least they're still alive! Ask all those dead Apple Foxconn employees how it's working out!"

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[larry bagina]

I patented cancer! These insensitive clods owe me naked and petrified grits in my cowboy neil goatse!

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[Anonymous Coward]

Nice, but you should post as AC and add the sig:
--
roman_mir

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

See what happens when you let government regulate cancer?

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[ArcadeMan]

You say "Apple Foxconn employees", as if Apple was the only Foxconn client and Samsung didn't do the exact same thing.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Nidi62]

"If they don't like cancer, they're free to find another job!"

Don't forget "If you like your cancer, you can keep your cancer"

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

/. isn't all worthless libertarians. Yes there are more of them than you'd expect if you were to believe that smart people congregate here, but much of /. is foolish people who believe they're smart due to some minor technical skills, and lack the depth to see their own shortcomings as people.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

You mean except the ones who excruciatingly died of the cancer?

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[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

In gp's imagined libertarian dystopia, where he disasterbates regularly, one presumes there are no journalists to loudly ask people why they continue to buy product X when that company's workers die an inordinately large amount of time, and presumably there are no prosecutors to prosecute managers that order unaware people to their deaths for murder.

I'll risk the asinine belief "Hey, do it or lose your job". I just wish we could see it, because they'd probably be about 30 years ahead of us with net far fewer deaths due to advancement.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

Some dunderhead always misses the sarcasm.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Jiro]

Where in the article does it say that Samsung caused the cancer?

So they apologized for it. Companies apologize for things that aren't their fault all the time. That's not a confession of guilt, that's a public relations ploy, and is solely based on whether people blame them for causing cancer, not whether they really caused any cancer.

Besides, if you read the apology carefully, it's not even worded as a confession. It doesn't say 'we apologize for giving people cancer'. They're just apologizing for making people upset--something they could do whether the cancer is caused by them or not. If a bully thinks you kicked sand in his face, and if you don't apologize he's going to beat you up/cost you millions in bad publicity, you apologize, regardless of whether you did it.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[ArcadeMan]

I was replying to the troll part of the sarcasm.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

Sorry, that's supposed to be the "typical Slashdot response?" Obviously you're here either new here or a redditor.

The typical Slashdot response from what I've seen over the years would be to call bullshit on what is such a poor piece of PR that it reads aloud like some sort of sick joke. "Sorry you're probably going to be dead soon because of us" isn't much consolation. They might as well have come out and said what they were really thinking -- "sorry, but hey, at least we only have to pay death benefits once."

A lot of the people who visit Slashdot work in electronics, IT and the like. You might not have noticed in between reposting memes on 9gag, but people who work in a certain industry are generally sensitive to issues that affect people in said industry. I'm glad you got modded flamebait, in the lack of a "go the fuck back to reddit you piece of white trash" it's the best option available. That or troll, which is probably a more appropriate description of your social life...largely held alone and under a fucking bridge.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[thunderbird32]

Are you implying that everyone on reddit is white trash? That seems uncalled for.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Real talk, it's exactly like when I tell my wife "I'm sorry you feel that way...".

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

"You daresay HOSTS is slower though it runs in ring 0?"

You're displaying a complete and utter ignorance of computer architecture. Stuff doesn't get magically faster because it runs in ring 0. It runs faster because it uses clever algorithms, and most people have little control over the algorithms that modern operating systems uses to run obsolete mechanisms like hosts files that have been deprecated decades ago.

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[Anonymous Coward]

I actually find 'white trash' to be rather racist.

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[nurb432]

Well, that is true. Don't like the current working situation, leave.

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[deadweight]

A lot of people couldn't care less about the health of the workers that made their cheap consumer goods.

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[Anonymous Coward]

It does get more cpu time if in a critical highly priveleged subsystem. TCP/IP is such a kernelmode subsystem (and thus it's faster than usermode because it can get more cpu time since it's in kernelmode as a driver).

Re:Cue typical Slashdot response

[david_thornley]

People have tried to make publicity campaigns to discourage companies from doing certain things. Some of them have been successful, in that companies at least give lip service to their cause. However, these tend to overload consumers real fast, and discourage them from any sort of boycott. For one or two causes, they can have some effect. However, worker cancers tend to rank below rainforest destruction and conflict minerals in the activists' minds.

This is why North Korea is Best Korea

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes?

"I'm sorry I caused all that cancer."

[jjeffries]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Only apologies?

[GameboyRMH]

Yeah don't offer any kind of financial assistance. That shit's expensive.

Re:Only apologies?

[GameboyRMH]

Addendum: OK, TFA says Samsung will compensate the families. Seems like something that should have been in TFS.

Re:Only apologies?

[Nidi62]

vowing to compensate those affected and their families.

Could you not even finish reading the first sentence of the summary?

Re:Only apologies?

[Anonymous Coward]

vowing to compensate those affected and their families

It's not even hidden, it's the end of the first sentence.

Re:Only apologies?

[Anonymous Coward]

"In an emailed statement, Samsung offered its 'sincerest apology' for the sickness and deaths of some of its workers, vowing to compensate those affected and their families....

That's a new level of lazy, don't even finish the first sentence of the summary.

Re:Only apologies?

[Anonymous Coward]

In an emailed statement, Samsung offered its 'sincerest apology' for the sickness and deaths of some of its workers, vowing to compensate those affected and their families.

First sentence of the summary.

First.

Sentence.

Re:Only apologies?

[Anonymous Coward]

Welcome to /., where not only do you not have to RTFA to post your musings, you also don't even have to RTFS!

You should be ashamed of yourself. I have no idea how you're at +2 --you should be at -6, Useless Bag of Shit.

Re:Only apologies?

[Anonymous Coward]

ROFLREADSUMMARY

Re:Only apologies?

[Scudsucker]

Yes, his not reading the summary was precious. As is your sig in this story.

Re:Only apologies?

[Anonymous Coward]

I have no idea how you're at +2

Apple zealots. Slashdot is full of them.

Re:Only apologies?

[Anonymous Coward]

next is not RTFH! headlines are for people who can't think for themselves!

Samsung stealing again

[ArcadeMan]

As a Canadian, I am deeply offended by the fact that Samsung apologized to its workers without buying genuine Canadian apologies first.

And as a Canadian, I apologize for this lame attempt at a joke.

Re:Samsung stealing again

[Chas]

Didn't you know? There's a world shortage of "Saw-ree" right now.

Re:Samsung stealing again

[Anonymous Coward]

As a Canadian, I forgive you, eh?

Re:Samsung stealing again

[Anonymous Coward]

This is Canada we are talking about. It's "Sore-Ree."

Re:Samsung stealing again

[Anonymous Coward]

A proper Canadian apology would be coupons for Tim Horton's.

The first step is admitting you have a problem

[Anonymous Coward]

so that's a start and rare these days

workers comp issue

[Joe_Dragon]

workers comp issue so under workers comp you do not use your own obamacare plan.

Wouldn't it be cheaper...

[HalAtWork]

Wouldn't it be cheaper to have gotten proper filter masks and ventilation for the workers?

Re:Wouldn't it be cheaper...

[Charliemopps]

Cheaper? It hasn't cost them any money yet.

Re:Wouldn't it be cheaper...

[Desler]

In the long-term, yes, but shareholders only care about the current quarter's bottom line.

Re:Wouldn't it be cheaper...

[timeOday]

You are trivializing it. It's fairly difficult to make sure with reasonable certainty that workers and people downstream are not harmed. OSHA and EPA are two of the favorite whipping-boys of the business lobby in the US. And we don't go as far as Europe.

Re:Wouldn't it be cheaper...

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah, but first you need Kirk to prove that the zenite gas is actually causing the retardation - err cancer. Then you can get them their filter masks...

I'm curious

[synapse7]

How was it contracted?

Re:I'm curious

[Anonymous Coward]

how babby made?

Re:I'm curious

[Anonymous Coward]

In the semiconductor industry, the most likely culprits are solvents that tend to be carcinogenic. In the Silicon Valley we had our share of problems with trichloroethylene in the 70/80 too.

Re:I'm curious

[fuzzyfuzzyfungus]

There are a fair few military bases, dubiously sensible mines, and generic industrial sites; but California's Superfund site list has plenty of silicon notables. Santa Clara, in particular, would not be my choice for delicious well water.

Re:I'm curious

[Anonymous Coward]

That would be a strange clause for a contract.

Re:I'm curious

[K. S. Kyosuke]

This seems interesting. Well, the whole book probably is!

Isn't it a bit ironic

[Mr D from 63]

Multiple confirmed cancer/disease cases directly attributed to the Giheung facility where solar cells are produced. Clean energy for all!

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[DirePickle]

Yes, this is totally a solar power issue and not a corporate malfeasance issue.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

no.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[MickyTheIdiot]

never a death attributed to coal! sooo clean!

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Mr D from 63]

Just pointing out the irony. I see that must have ruffled your feathers a bit.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

I find it funny that my first thought when comparing it to the common perception of an American company, is that they would drag out the court cases until past when the employees died and end up paying maybe 10% of the cost and the public will be so tired of the press about it, they will not care in large. It is another incident in an ocean full of crap.

I love the idea of American goods, but we are really morally bankrupt. When I see Japanese and South Korean companies taking huge pay cuts due to bad performance of the company (not to mention the already vastly lower salaries compared to over here), it makes me want to buy their products more. This isn't always true. The power company that handled the Ichiban nuclear reactor incident looks to be about as bankrupt as can be.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[iggymanz]

there are less deaths caused by digging other natural substances out of the ground?

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Mr D from 63]

Many deaths attributed to coal. Doesn't change anything.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

It rustled my jimmies fo sho, nigga.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[LWATCDR]

Yep you did. Solar for some is a religion and not a technology. Too bad really since it is useful but not as they used to say a "golden bullet".

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

Changes the conversation from the topic at hand which I'm sure was your goal.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Desler]

Is this post a joke? Samsung was fighting the workers and denying there were any problems for more than 7 years and some of the workers did die from the cancer before owning up to it.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

Meanwhile in Turkey...

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

I believe the phrase is "silver bullet".

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

I see that must have ruffled your feathers a bit.

Are you feigning surprise? It sure looks like that was your intent from the beginning.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[tool462]

It's still clean energy. Humans are carbon-neutral.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[excelsior_gr]

Yeah, when you don't give a shit about safety (as like, beyond the regulations, which are a bare minimum for preventing you from dying *on the spot*), stuff like this tends to happen in a factory handling and/or producing chemicals. The company I work for is in the same business, but never heard of any similar incidents in my workplace.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[r_jensen11]

Just pointing out the irony.

Please continue explaining, because I believe you'll have a hard time:

irony
noun
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
Eg: "Clear as mud"

a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.
plural noun: ironies
Eg: Ronald Reagan getting shot due to bullet ricocheting off his bullet-proof car

a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.
E.g: Pick a random Shakespeare play

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Scudsucker]

Just pointing out the irony.

Whatever you say, Alanis. In the same way that electric cars became bad the first time a driver ran over someone's dog in a Tesla.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

Samsung has been a part of nearly half a dozen price fixing cartels, bribes politicians and wields all sorts of power against its critics in South Korea. They are just as morally bankrupt as any other corporation you could name.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

Magic bullet. You fucking dolts.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

Meanwhile in Turkey...

...stuffed and baked ?

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[Anonymous Coward]

It isn't ironic that something relating to the Sun causes cancer. If they produced drugs to prevent cancer, then it'd be ironic.
Anyhow, it seems Samsung screwed up big time. Had they fired the employees sooner, nobody would be able to prove it.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[N1AK]

No. Silver Bullet dumbass, Magic Bullet means effectively the same thing but is normally only used in the context of medicine.

Re:Isn't it a bit ironic

[LWATCDR]

In James Bond it is a golden bullet moron... Really get over it...

I Am Slashdot.

[Anonymous Coward]

I like NPR and Jay Carney and hate Micro$oft and have a Mac. I also have spiked hair.

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

I think I speak for all of the Slashdot user base when I say, with all due respect (which is none):

Please just die.

Dear workers,

[Razed By TV]

We are so sorry to have poisoned you and then ignored you until someone else spoke up on your behalf. I hope we can still be friends...

...if you're still alive...

...and can keep up your quota.

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

"Impersonate me"... Do us a favor - grow up!

Pot, meet kettle. Then both of you fuck off and try to do something useful with your lives.

Good they did not have Mr. Burns' lawyers

[Anonymous Coward]

Or else they would all just be given an Employee of the Month Award and Ham in exchange for a signature to make the company not liable for damages.

Re:Good they did not have Mr. Burns' lawyers

[Desler]

As opposed to denying any problems for more than 7 years and letting a number of the affected workers die of the cancer they got from the job? Yeah, Samsung was ever so benevolent...

fuckyourshittysubjectcuntcuntcunt

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm installing Samsung printer drivers now. I think I know where the leukemia comes from...

Murder

[Anonymous Coward]

Samsung meets the legal criteria of a Serial Killer. ...and yet, no action will be taken no doubt.

Re:Murder

[MouseTheLuckyDog]

And yet, their employees do not jump off the factory roofs.

Re:Murder

[gnasher719]

And yet, their employees do not jump off the factory roofs.

Well, this is the first article ever on Slashdot about Samsung killing its employees. (It was reported elsewhere, but on Slashdot I'm generally surprised about the headline calling them "Samsung" and not "Apple supplier"). Numbers about other deaths at Samsung factories haven't been reported. Seems unlikely that their employees die from cancer and are invulnerable to accidents. Numbers of suicides haven't been reported. Seems unlikely that there aren't any, but reporters in South Korea trying to report negatives about Samsung tend to lose their jobs quickly.

Re:Murder

[Dixie_Flatline]

If the plant is killing them slowly with leukaemia, maybe they'd be better off if they did?

Seriously though, the suicide rate at Apple contracted Foxconn plants was blown way out of proportion. The suicide rate at the plants was LOWER than in the general population. Try to have a little perspective. People commit suicide all the time. It's tragic, and doesn't usually have anything to do with the one specific job they were working at the time. As far as I know, Foxconn employees were never barred from quitting; if the conditions were that bad, they really could have left. Instead, many of them were disappointed that the maximum number of hours they could work was cut. (This is, by and large, a Chinese cultural thing. They believe that you should work hard and make a lot of money even if the job sucks because you can quit and take all that money with you. My Chinese half of the family is often recommending that I move to somewhere terrible and work for tonnes of money for a few years; they don't understand that I'd rather enjoy my job and make less.)

Re:Murder

[N1AK]

The suicide rate at the plants was LOWER than in the general population. Try to have a little perspective.

I suggest you follow your own advise. The population at large includes many groups that have a high suicide risk. You should be comparing against employees at other firms; IIRC someone did that and they found on that measure that the suicide levels at Foxconn were well above standard but I can't be arsed hunting out a source so feel free to take with a hefty pinch of salt.

Re:Murder

[AmiMoJo]

Nice try, but the situation at Foxconn factories where Apple products are made is not really comparable. This is about Samsung's factories in SK, where standards are generally high and wages quite reasonable. Workers don't live at the factories, and aren't forced to do insane shift patterns. They don't use child or unpaid "intern" labour.

What happened here is that they had all the safety equipment and protection in place, but there was pressure from management to disable it in order to keep production up. Obviously it's wrong and those involved should be punished, but it isn't anything like the situation at Foxconn that lead to so many suicides and generally intolerable working conditions.

Re:Murder

[Dixie_Flatline]

I disagree that using other factories is somehow a better measure. The conditions that lead to suicide are multi-faceted, and a job is only going to be part of the equation, one way or another. The population at large is a good baseline--is a worker's life in one of these factory's better or worse than the general populace, all things be being equal? If the suicide rate deviates strongly above that baseline, then there's probably a fundamental problem with the factory. If the rate is no higher, than you're probably seeing the normal tragedy (normal tragedy, yeesh--but it is) of life in that society. If it's significantly lower, you're probably seeing that the life of that worker is better than the populace. They've got more factors that are keeping them alive than the people outside those walls. That some factories are better than others merely speaks to those situations being better than life without those jobs. It's exemplary either way, honestly.

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Sardaukar86]

"Impersonate me"... Do us a favor - grow up!

Dear hypocrite,

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Good for them

[iplayfast]

While I don't know the backstory, I applaud Samsung for stepping up and taking responsibility for the problem and compensating the workers who have suffered. SamSung over the years has struck me as a responsible company over and over, for multiple diverse reasons. This is just another to ad to the list.

A company cannot help that there are problems, but it can help by trying to do the right thing afterwards, and trying not to be evil.

I note that a number of the slashdot comments are cynical to the extreme, but I doubt any of the posters have more information then I do. It's too easy to be cynical while living in the 1 percent of the worlds wealth. I expect it's even easier to be cynical when you aren't.

Re:Good for them

[Desler]

They only "stepped up" after 7+ years of workers and their families fighting Samsung who was denying there were any problems at the plant. What have they done to deserve praise? That they did something nearly a decade after they should have?

Re:Good for them

[Anonymous Coward]

I note that a number of the slashdot comments are cynical to the extreme, but I doubt any of the posters have more information then I do. It's too easy to be cynical while living in the 1 percent of the worlds wealth. I expect it's even easier to be cynical when you aren't.

You seem to falsely assume that South Korea is a poor/third world country. They have the 15th highest GDP and the 16th highest median income in the world. Samsung itself is ranked 20th in the world in revenues on the Global 500 list. What exactly does your nonsense have to do with this situation?

Re:Good for them

[niado]

A company cannot help that there are problems, but it can help by trying to do the right thing afterwards, and trying not to be evil.

It's too easy to be cynical while living in the 1 percent of the worlds wealth.

Not sure if troll....

A company can most certainly adhere to basic safety standards instead of sacrificing a bunch of lives for profit in places where the safety standards are not legally mandated.

In this particular case, an organization owned and operated by a bunch of 1%ers wrecked the lives of numerous poverty-stricken workers and their families through gross negligence. And they are unlikely to suffer impactful financial consequences as a result.

Re:Good for them

[Desler]

And denied that there was anything wrong for nearly a decade. It's a farce that anyone would applaud them for this.

Re:Good for them

[Anonymous Coward]

Samsung is the largest of 5 companies that control 90% of the SK economy. Most of the SK govt is literally on their payroll. Look up the term "Chaebol". In the SK you don't even /talk/ about Samsung because if anything you say might be perceived as negative you're basically unable to find a job for the rest of your life.

They're about as monstrous and amoral as a company can get.. But it's tolerated because the SK economy has such rapid growth. The moment that's over shit is going to hit the fan.

Re:Good for them

[Anonymous Coward]

Yep and they have been part of a number of price fixing cartels involving DRAM, LCD panels, CRTs, optical drives, etc. Why anyone would champion or be a "fan" of the company beggars belief.

Re:Good for them

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, they're responsible all right. Responsible for being convicted price fixers, colluders, patent infringers, bribers, lawbreakers, paid astroturfers, payola scammers, benchmark cheaters, etc.

If I didn't know better, I'd say you're astroturfing yourself.

Re:Good for them

[Anonymous Coward]

but STILL less evil than Apple!

Re:Good for them

[Anonymous Coward]

I note that a number of the slashdot comments are cynical to the extreme, but I doubt any of the posters have more information then I do. It's too easy to be cynical while living in the 1 percent of the worlds wealth. I expect it's even easier to be cynical when you aren't.

You seem to falsely assume that South Korea is a poor/third world country. They have the 15th highest GDP and the 16th highest median income in the world. Samsung itself is ranked 20th in the world in revenues on the Global 500 list. What exactly does your nonsense have to do with this situation?

He was talking about slashdotters with this line, not South Korea. I guess he feels that people who read slashdot are in the 1 percent.

Re:Good for them

[Anonymous Coward]

Samsung is the largest of 5 companies that control 90% of the SK economy. Most of the SK govt is literally on their payroll. Look up the term "Chaebol". In the SK you don't even /talk/ about Samsung because if anything you say might be perceived as negative you're basically unable to find a job for the rest of your life.

They're about as monstrous and amoral as a company can get.. But it's tolerated because the SK economy has such rapid growth. The moment that's over shit is going to hit the fan.

Who are the other four?

Hyundai
LG

Are all I can think of.

Re:Nuke the Far East

[Sardaukar86]

Get rid of all these soulless mongrels.

I'm totally for that, at least from where I (geographically) sit.

Bit hard on the rest of the countryside though, using nuclear weapons for such small targets as the White House and the Pentagon? ;-)

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

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Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

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[Anonymous Coward]

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[Anonymous Coward]

I know two things, APK:

1. You should give it up with the anonymous sockpuppets, it makes you look like some kind of raving psycho.
2. "You're truly "Forrest" (lmao) "running" from real apk's challenge" doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" like always... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You'll run till the day you die vs. this challenge from me -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

* :)

(LMAO - I love it!)

APK

P.S.=> Every single time you do this, you ONLY end up making ME look GOOD, & yourself by way of comparison (running like the scared little loser you are clearly)? Well - lol, "not so good"...

... apk

Re:"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" like always... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

That's right apk, you go tell 'em! Your the only one who looks good in here. They look "not so good", like you said.

Also thanks for your hosts file engine. It only gave me 2 malwares rather than the 5 virustotal said it had!

Re:"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" like always... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd like to know why you trolls won't face apk's challenge here http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

Re:"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" like always... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

He does. You don't. You look butthurt stupid since apk mauled you again.

Re:"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" like always... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

That's what I said, apk. Your looking good.Looking real good. You sure mauled all those other guys. All of those other ones, looking "not so good" cause their "forrests" (lmao) like you said!

P.S.=> I know it's really you apk.

Horrible!

[FrozenToothbrush]

They should make these people millionaires (in U.S. currency). Ultimately there is no compensation to the victims families for this.

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

"Impersonate me"... Do us a favor - grow up!

APK

P.S.=> QUESTION: How badly have I dusted you in tech debates that you're reduced to such childish reprehensible bullshit, hmmm?

(Your ego a bit "bruised" ? Yes, obviously! Clue: Don't mess with your BETTERS then (in myself))... apk

Oh, APK! You're my hero! Please impregnate my wife and daughters! I just wish I could be as big and strong as you. And smart! Ever since I started using your hosts file, my whole world is better! Much better than when I was using MyCleanPC!

Why're you running from this "Forrest" (lol)

[Anonymous Coward]

Apk get the best of you yet again? Yes. -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

Hypocrite pot calling a kettle black:

[Anonymous Coward]

We know you're "running Forrest" from apk's challenge => http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

Re:Hypocrite pot calling a kettle black:

[Anonymous Coward]

Who is this "we" you speak of

APK

P.S.=>STOP using my arrows ...apk

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

No you don't speak for us all. I'd like to know why you run from apk's challenge here troll http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

Oh, THAT is an easy answer... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I've spanked the unidentifiable ac troll so many 100's of times on it, it's not funny (he knows when he's failed & doesn't feel like doing it again, even posting "pure" ac).

APK

P.S.=> Yes, it's THAT simple... apk

Now THAT is easy to answer... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I've spanked the unidentifiable ac troll so many 100's of times on hosts it's not funny (he knows when he's failed & doesn't feel like doing it again, even posting "pure" ac).

APK

P.S.=> Yes, it's truly THAT simple... apk

Sardaukar86 had to "eat his words" (lol)

[Anonymous Coward]

Hahahahah ROTFLMAO http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

(Vs. myself? Sardaukar86 NEVER does well & it was just (you know I just gotta say it) j"too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" to make him do it (his big mouth wrote checks his dimwit brain's unable to ca$h... lol!).

APK

P.S.=> So - in addition to that? How many times have I dusted YOU totally on hosts files, Sardaukar86??

Shall I count them AND post the links too???

Hahahaha....

Man, look - face it:

You are SO completely INFERIOR to me (& I wager most of humanity "forrest"), it's not funny - your "results" (piss poor) show it - see above, lol!... apk

battery operated sexual devices!

[Anonymous Coward]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcztDZ13TLI

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

Temper, temper now. You're apk's superior in 1 respect: Getting your ass kicked by him totally on every front.

Re:Nuke the Far East

[Anonymous Coward]

Hahahahahaha http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!"

[Anonymous Coward]

APK ought to thank you for proving him right again http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

"Impersonating me", AGAIN?

[Anonymous Coward]

That's 3x & it's not working & you always "run" from this too http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

* :)

Thanks for proving my point yet again!

APK

P.S.=> Yes folks - THERE you have it: The truths I state about hosts superiority over ANY single browser addon & how it fixes + supplements DNS security & reliability issues are CLEARLY, unassailable - hence the trolls "running" like the "forrests" (lol) they are... I love it!

... apk

Re:"Impersonating me", AGAIN?

[Anonymous Coward]

I literally don't know which one or ones are the real APK and which ones are the anti-APK.

A couple are obvious because they're "self"-deprecating, and APK is never self-deprecating, but then it gets weird. And fascinating.

APK giving a challenge is real

[Anonymous Coward]

One evading it after isn't, Itt's all you need to see or know here and challenge's unscathed http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

APK giving a challenge is real

[Anonymous Coward]

One evading it afterw impersonating apk isn't. It's all you need to see. Challenge is unscathed http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

Also IBM and Leukemia: Fabs vs. Watson

[Paul Fernhout]

From a law firm (biased, perhaps): http://consumerjusticegroup.co...
"Workers at IBM and at other microchip fabs, or "fabrication plants," are exposed to benzene and other toxic carcinogens that can cause birth defects, leukemia, and other serious, debilitating medical conditions. While "bunny suits" prevent dust, hair, and skin cells from coming into contact with microchips, too often not enough is done in microchip factories to prevent the person inside the suit from breathing dangerous cancer-causing chemicals like benzene and formaldehyde while at the workplace. Since 2000, IBM has faced lawsuits from more than 250 former microchip plant employees. And since 2000, IBM has worked to suppress scientific findings showing the increase of cancer incidences in their microchip plant workers."

And also:
"Life In The Plume: IBM's Pollution Haunts a Village"
http://www.syracuse.com/specia...
"But for much of its history, Big Blue routinely polluted its birthplace. Tons of industrial solvents used to clean computer parts were dumped down drains or leached from leaky pipes into the ground for years before environmental rules required that such "spills" be reported. In 2002, scientists discovered the ground was exacting its revenge: The large underground chemical plume was releasing gases into homes and offices in a 350-acre swath south of the plant. The main chemical was a liquid cleaning agent called trichloroethylene, or TCE, that has been linked to cancer and other illnesses. IBM took responsibility and launched a multimillion-dollar cleanup. At the same time, the company announced plans to sell the plant and to ship many jobs overseas. ... "We found out that IBM had two faces in this community," said Matt LaTessa, a barber whose shop is on Monroe Street in The Plume. "One was a nice face, beautiful, big buildings and a lot of jobs. But underneath they were rotten. They were poisoning us." ..."

Versus:

"MD Anderson Taps IBM Watson to Power "Moon Shots" Mission Aimed at Ending Cancer, Starting with Leukemia"
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us...
"MD Anderson's Oncology Expert Advisor powered by IBM Watson is designed to integrate the knowledge of MD Anderson's clinicians and researchers, and to advance the cancer center's goal of treating patients with the most effective, safe and evidence-based standard of care available. Starting with the fight against Leukemia, MD Anderson's Oncology Expert Advisor is expected to help MD Anderson clinicians develop, observe and fine-tune treatment plans for patients, while helping them recognize adverse events that may occur throughout the care continuum. The cognitive-powered technology is also expected to help researchers advance novel discoveries."

Although, consider:
"Eat For Health - The Anti-Cancer Diet"
https://www.drfuhrman.com/libr...

Also Vitamin D and iodine can help prevent cancer...

When I worked at IBM Watson as a software developer, part of that time my workstation was put in windowless old labs that has been used for who knows what... To his credit, my supervisor tried really hard to make sure the second lab had been fully renovated...

Someone from Switzerland who saw other windowless offices at Watson said all that would be illegal in Switzerland, to have people working in windowless rooms... Not sure what the Swiss lawas are on chemical exposure... Back then was when I thought a lot about how all fabs and related labs should be 100% roboticized on the production floor. Bunny suits in that sense are such a quaint 20th century idea...

Re:Oh gee: A douchebag ac troll tries to

[Anonymous Coward]

how the hell would apk be a sockpuppeteer if he only posts ac Sardaukar86?

I think it's funny how apk makes trolls here

[Anonymous Coward]

"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" (lol) from this challenge he gives them http://news.slashdot.org/comme... it's like a cross for vampires or wolf's bane for werewolves for him against trolls hahaha

Ever heard of PROPORTION?

[Anonymous Coward]

How many are killed per Kilowatt-Hour?

Hint: Coal is a very concentrated source of energy and solar panels are a very weak source.

A hundred people dying from the very toxic chemicals and processes used to make solar panels is, proportionally, like tens-of-thousands (hundreds of thousands?) dying in a coal mine. Some coal-hater will probably want to reply that the soot produced by USING the coal is also toxic and inevitably causes some casualties, BUT that's not necessarily a "win" for solar either, given that we as a society have not yet even begun to face the nightmare of disposing of all those solar panels all over the world as they lose their ability to generate electricity (this toxic nightmare will ramp-up in 20 years when all those people who "went solar" during the Obama years confront the issue; photovoltaic solar panels start dying the day you start using them (something the "average joe" is never told)). If we bury those panels, there will probably be massive run-off and ground-water issues, and if the disposal process involved crushing/grinding (which just NEVER is going to happen in Hepa-filtered clean-rooms) there'll be lots of toxic particulates...

Don't believe it...

[Anonymous Coward]

Everyone knows Bruce McCulloch caused all that cancer.

K. S. Kyosuke = "Run, Forrest: RUN!"

[Anonymous Coward]

From a fair challenge like a chickenshit blowhard http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

K. S. Kyosuke gets called out & ran

[Anonymous Coward]

From a fair challenge like a chickenshit blowhard http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

And this means what, exactly?

[Chelloveck]

How many employees work at these plants? How do the per-capita rates of these illnesses compare to the rates for those not employed by Samsung? "26 workers contracted leukemia!" sounds bad, but if the rates are commensurate with the overall population then Samsung probably isn't at fault.

(Please note that I'm bitching about shoddy reporting, not trying to be an industry apologist.)

Advice to help Chairman Lee Kun-hee

[Paul Fernhout]

who just had a heart attack: http://www.forbes.com/sites/go...
"The man credited with turning Samsung into one of the world's most powerful companies is in recovery after suffering a heart attack on Saturday night. In an official statement Samsung confirmed Chairman Lee Kun-hee, 72, was rushed to hospital and treated with CPR. Both the company and hospital officials have declined to say how long he is expected to be hospitalised."

We have a Samsung SSD, a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet, and quite a few Samsung LCD displays, among other things Samsung. Thanks for the quality products, and thanks for apologizing about the leukemia risk among Samsung workers and offering to help them and their families. Now here is some advice that could help Chairman Lee Kun-hee back to good health. I hope he gets it in time. Please let the appropriate people know if you are connected to Samsung.

Aggressive nutritional therapy by eating a lot of vegetables and some other things can reverse heart disease, as practiced by Dr. Joel Fuhrman and others:
https://www.drfuhrman.com/dise...
"When it comes to combating heart disease, most information sources promote drugs and surgery as the only viable lines of defense. As a result, the demand for high-tech, expensive and largely ineffective medical care is overwhelming, causing medical costs and insurance rates to skyrocket. This chase for "cures" is both financially devastating and futile. Morbidity and premature mortality from heart disease continue to rise with no sign of abating. Interventional cardiology offers only partial benefits, since these procedures do not remove the causes of the problem. Attempts to intervene with invasive procedures or surgery after the damage already has been done have not been shown to offer a significant reduction in cardiac deaths.
We need to keep in mind that angioplasty and bypass surgery have some significant adverse outcomes, including heart attacks, stroke and death. These invasive procedures only attempt to treat a small segment of the diseased heart, usually with only temporary benefit. Patients treated with angioplasty and bypass surgery continue to experience progressive disability, and most still die prematurely as a result of their heart disease.
The average person is not aware that there are safer, more effective options available. Unfortunately, government agencies are often slow to respond to new scientific information and continue to advocate outdated recommendations. Economic and political forces also make it difficult for Americans to be clearly informed that heart disease is self-induced and totally avoidable by eating a diet of nutritional excellence."

The same is no doubt true in many other countries, probably including South Korea. Even GW Bush got scammed in that sense:
"Was George W. Bush's stent necessary?"
http://www.drfuhrman.com/libra...
"President Bush needed aggressive nutritional counseling and potentially life-saving nutritional information. It sounds like he was not properly informed of these studies documenting the ineffectiveness of PCI and the value of the proper dietary intervention. If not, I consider that malpractice. Every potential candidate for angioplasty (PCI) should know that their disease can be effectively reversed via superior nutrition and that surgical interventions are not protective against future events. Remember too, that almost half of all those on optimal medical therapy for high cholesterol and high blood pressure, still ultimately suffer heart attacks. Was President Bush informed about Dr. Ornish's Lifestyle Heart Trial, which scientifically documented that lifestyle changes alone can reverse coronary artery disease? Even President Clinton could have shared his ex