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Controversial TSA Nudie X-Ray Machines Sent To Prisons
An anonymous reader writes "The controversial TSA backscatter X-ray machines are being sent to prisons. According to Federal times, 'The controversial airport screening machines that angered privacy advocates and members of Congress for its revealing images are finding new homes in state and local prisons across the country, according to the Transportation Security Administration.' 154 backscatter X-rays have already ended up in Iowa, Louisiana, and Virginia prisons. TSA is working to find homes for the remaining machines. Per the article: '"TSA and the vendor are working with other government agencies interested in receiving the units for their security mission needs and for use in a different environment," TSA spokesman Ross Feinstein said.'"
If the USA hosts it, then it is good to be 100% sure that one of the contestants is not a terrorist.
Poor machines scapegoated for the pervs that use them to peek.
They were treating us like prisoners.
You should only lose one right: Freedom.
Not
- security of your personal well being
- privacy
- respect to the human
- torture (psychological or physical)
- physical punishment.
The punishment is withdrawing freedom, not becoming a sub-human. Once you leave prison, you should be considered a typical citizen again -- you served your sentence, so it must not carry on forever.
That said, punishment is known to not be efficient, and not a deterrent for others (as most crimes are not driven by thinking long about the consequences). So modern prisons focus on re-constituting the citizen to full capacity. Because it works better than punishing.
NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.
Weren't these machines banned in Europe over health concerns from radiation exposure? I know that these are prisoners but shouldn't the health effects of such a machine be studied prior to deploying stuff like this out into the world? http://science.howstuffworks.c...
It's all about the possibilities!
It's the radiation. I'm surprised that correctional employee unions haven't objected to these installations, or, at least, demanded that the scanner operators get to wear dosimeters to detect radiation exposure.
All the security personnel get to see will be the outlines of obese / overweight / fat American inmates, malnourished by a decades-long diet of corn-syrup-based beverages and saturated fatty acids, as the USA underclass is wont to consume. I pity the prisons' security personnel.
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
also jails use them on inmates well.
So it can't detect homemade, low density weapons like non-metals and it will cause cancer. Sounds like a great idea.
The people who would be inconvenienced by a fully nude rendering of their body presented to a remote office worker making minimum wage have objected to said technology. These people are politicians and businessmen, members of the plutocracy in some cases and powerful individuals in other cases. The machines were withdrawn because they were perturbed, not you.
when we say, 'privacy concerns raised by airport passengers do not apply in many cases to prisoners' what we mean is that we reserve the right to treat United States citizens designated as prisoners, or detained by law enforcement while charged with a crime, like human fucking garbage. We categorically embrace the power to bombard those in custody arbitrarily and at our will with ionizing radiation that depicts them nude and has been proven by numerous security experts to be easily thwarted. We endorse the ability to do this with or without their consent because theyve written a bad check, been charged with an unpaid parking ticket, or have a warrant for an unreturned library book.
This is a bigger deal than most readers understand. Namely because America has the highest rate of incarceration in the known world. We arrest and imprison people at or above the height of the Soviet Union, so to conject that the reader would not be subject to this type of technology in the future isnt at all certain. In a "detention facility" or "correctional center" as its known it is implicitly understood that your moral and ethical treatise concerning the dangers and repercusssions of using this technology are tolerated only as long as it takes your corrections officer to apply her riot baton to designated 'departmentally approved areas' of your tender human body.
The systemic repercussions of widespread application of X-Ray backscatter systems in the various private penal colonies of the united states, while financially sound at its salesmans word, certainly isnt a long term bet to hedge. Incidences of debilitating cancers will need medical treatment for both guards and prisoners alike as has been shown in the incidences of cancer for certain groups of TSA screeners. Liability for introducing a prisoner or employee to a cancer suspect agent will likely follow the course of most other folly of american scientific perversion in the hands of government. It will likely be assigned to the government, who in turn will insist it was the technology, and in turn the manufacturer will absolve itself through a complex series of medical puppet shows, out of court settlements, and evasive restructuring practices so as to ensure no real harm comes to the corporation. Once your sentence is complete, and you emerge from prison, the biblical retribution set upon you is now the denial of employment, housing, food stamps, medicare, and finally a malignant cancer risk substantially greater than the rest of society as your corrections system applied background scanners quietly and incessantly for the duration of your incarceration.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Controversial TSA X-Ray Machines To Be Used In Prisons
Would have been much more informative.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Because the entire country is a giant prison. You can't choose who you live with (that would be 'racist'), so you are a prisoner. You can't simply GET AWAY from people you don't want to associate with (murderers just released from prison, paedophiles just released from prison, gang members, etc.) so you are a prisoner.
You aren't entitled to a fair amount of land, from birth, just for being alive, because somebody else STOLE the land from your parents, so you and they have to work as indentured servants in order to just be able to afford a place to live. The 'laws' are made so that you can't build any sort of house you want, even if you did have land - you have to spend a fortune on a house, so you are still a slave - still in prison.
You can't choose who you live with (that would be 'racist')
I think you mean "that would be 'gay'".
Heightened cancer risk leading to less overall lifespan meaning money saved on life sentences. Do you think prisoners will be given the opportunity to have a rigorous pat-down instead of the scanner?
Nothing to see.
It makes criminals become even more tougher.
Besides the privacy and safety concerns of these things, I was under the impression that a major flaw is that it's a bit too easy to sneak things through them.
Is it really a smart idea to move these things from a place where security is theatre to a place where the targets actually *are* sneaking weapons through security and using those to actually kill other people?
Log in or piss off.
You mean I can't live with Scarlett Johansson? Darn the luck!
There are no violent ex-cons or gang members in my neighborhood or at my place of work...
No one born with a hungry mouth is truly innocent.
Let me repeat that, so it sinks in...
No one born with a hungry mouth is truly innocent.
There are only so many resources on this planet. We are all in competition for those resources. Communities, cities, nations, alliances, are all there for the purpose of attempting to ensure the best access to resources. Different cultures throughout history have been better at it than others, and I'm certain that the current balance will eventually change. Within those spheres of cooperation exists a degree of competition though, as cooperation doesn't automatically mean succor. If parents want their children to succeed then they need to set their children up on a path to help make them succeed. That generally requires having a certain degree of stability of their own to start with, and then generally requires the parents to make some sacrifices of their own to commit the time and resources to the children that they might otherwise want to spend on themselves.
My very strong opinion is that if you can't afford to have children, then don't have children. 'Afford' includes the willingness to commit that time, effort, and money required to do right by them. There are so many ways of avoiding having children while still enjoying a full life that it's stupid to have kids when one isn't prepared to go all-in.
Land isn't your birthright. Your birthright, whether born in Beverly Hills or in Khartoum, is to struggle to get or to keep what you need to live. That's it. The universe owes you nothing.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Meanwhile, in airports they've been replaced by new machines that achieve exactly the same ends using slightly different technology.
But the traveling public has gotten used to it, and complaints have died down, so the new terahertz wave nudie scanners are the new normal.
Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
These machines *started* being tested on prison population. Basically, cavity search or machine type of a deal back in early 2000s. *Then* they were deployed to airports. And now what? Same stuff there anyway.
So now they move them to prisons, again, leaving behind similar crap anyway. At least it doesn't irradiate your skin, but with respect to privacy, it's similar.
But then again, people really like to trade any freedom for lack thereof. You know, effort and such. As long as they have perception of choice, they are happy. Take your average store. Then entire isle can be 1 or 2 companies, but since there is dozens of products under different brands, it's all good! "Choice!" "Market Economy!". "Freedom"...
Yeah, cause fuck those guys. Prisoners aren't even human. We can do any nasty shit we want to those fuckers. Right? Can I get a MURICA?
MURICA
MURICA
MURICA
There are no violent ex-cons or gang members in my neighborhood or at my place of work...
I was going to ask you how you know; it reminded me this story from Trenches comic
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
with use required for all admitted.
> Once you leave prison, you should be considered a typical citizen again
Why should we ignore their reputation? Would you hire a pedophile as an elementary teacher? Would you share an office with a serial killer? And all merely because they've spent X years being punished by being locked in a small room?
It's fine sounding nonsense to claim all of this when you have no fear of actually suffering these consequences, but having had my mother violently murdered, I cannot be quite so caviler. Nor can I simply discard what I know about what a person is capable of without some evidence that they have, in fact, changed. If there is good evidence of change, fine, I think people can decide for themselves, but the onus there is on the criminal. Yes, there is a reputation trap where a person can run themselves out of good options. I do think we need a way to deal with this, but I also recognize their culpability in the matter.
I don't like the idea of blinding ourselves to what we know as it seems more like a means of creating new victims.
I know of civilian workers at a state hospital (basically the only real employer in town) that are forced thru scanning machines at the beginning and end of their shifts, treated no differently than criminals. It wouldn't surprise me if these kind of machines are being used - and the images of the women surreptitiously recorded by the pigs that man them (not to mention the long-term health effects of the daily cooking sessions).
Few people are more hated in Red States than public employees just trying to eke out a living for their low-income families.
While I was in the military we joked that the reason some medical research was easier to do on soldiers than on prison inmates was that the ACLU will protect the rights of prison inmates.
"There is no god but allah" - well, they got it half right.