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California Legislation Affirms Privacy Rights Against NSA Spying Methods

New submitter amxcoder writes: "A recent bill making its way through the California state legislature reaffirms 4th amendment protections against NSA-style wiretapping of cell phones and computer records, and declares that the NSA's data collection methods and practices are unconstitutional. The bill has passed the California Senate with only a single opposing vote. It would require a warrant to be issued by a Judge before the state's law enforcement and other departments can assist federal agencies in obtaining these records. Similar bills in other states are trickling through the legislative process, but California's is the furthest along. At the least, it will establish that a state of 38 million people are unhappy with the NSA's methods."

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  1. So... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who's up for 24/7 full documentation of the every move, utterance, and action, of the asshole who voted against it?

    1. Re:So... by Guest316 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      TFA also says the CDAA opposed it as well, for being "too vague." This could be a genuine issue. For one, it could have unintended secondary effects (such as being open enough to be abused in ways it was never intended), or itself be ruled unconstitutional for being too wide-sweeping in its vagueness. This is just speculation for now as I try to dig up more info.

      For that matter, I'm not sure of the utility of a state law reaffirming the Constitution's constitutionality. But it could be interesting to see what this one dissenter is all about.

    2. Re:So... by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is the guy according to the vote log: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...
      I'm emailing him now.

      Here's videos of him:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      https://www.youtube.com/result...

      Have fun commenting.

      His political contributers:
      http://maplight.org/california...

  2. Silly law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The DOJ will simply take the State of California to court. CA will lose.

  3. NSA is a Federal Agency by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and California, much as it likes to think it's a country unto itself, has NO jurisdiction over the NSA, over their methods, even over their agents (when acting in an official capacity and all those other qualifiers)

    If it makes the CA legislature feel good about themselves to do this, great! But it means about as much as the lot of them threatening to hold their breath till the NSA stops spying...

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    1. Re:NSA is a Federal Agency by mspohr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This applies to California State law enforcement. California certainly does have jurisdiction over their own employees.
      It requires a court order signed by a judge before California state employees assist the Feds. This is something that Federal law and NSA skirt around. In California, it should slow them down.

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  4. Re:Worse than that by mspohr · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know it's against the rules but you should read some more before you go off on a rant:
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/... [digitaljournal.com]
    "The bill, entitled Senate Bill 828, would require a warrant for any information collected through data mining to be admissible in court. Furthermore, it would impose sanctions on companies that share information with the NSA without warrants, and would target utility companies and universities which did the same. "

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  5. Re:Now we'll see who's really the master. by sfcat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nice federal income tax revenue from California you have there, United States. Would be a shame if something were to happen to it.

    This is a game that can be played both ways.

    Its actually worse than that. If you remove CA from the US economy, what do you think the jobs/GDP/other national growth metrics for the rest of the US look like over the last 30 years? Can you say perpetual depression? Removing CA from the US would be disastrous, for the other 49 states. Don't kid yourself about the size of the CA economy, its large and growing, unlike the most of the rest of the US. Oh, and we actually pay off our debts. You really think politicians from other states would want to have to explain those numbers to the voters?

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