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Goodbye, Ctrl-S

An anonymous reader writes "'Save your work!' — This was a rallying cry for an entire generation of workers and students. The frequency and unpredictability of software crashes, power outages, and hardware failures made it imperative to constantly hit that save button. But in 2014? Not so much. My documents are automatically saved (with versioning) every time I make a change. My IDE commits code changes automatically. Many webforms will save drafts of whatever data I'm entering. Heck, even the games I play have an autosave feature. It's an interesting change — the young generation will grow up with an implicit trust that whatever they type into a computer will stay there. Maybe this is my generation's version of: 'In my day, we had to get up and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV!' In any case, it has some subtle but interesting effects on how people write, play, and create. No longer do we have to have constant interruptions to worry about whether our changes are saved — but at the same time, we don't have that pause to take a moment and reflect on what we've written. I'm sure we've all had moments where our hands hover over a save/submit button before changing our minds and hammering the backspace key. Maybe now we'll have to think before we write."

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  1. Never used this keystroke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been using computers for over 30 years and have never once used this keystroke.

    1. Re:Never used this keystroke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've been using computers for over 30 years and have never once used this keystroke.

      In 30 years you've never produced anything worth saving? That's quite a feat.

    2. Re:Never used this keystroke by Noah+Haders · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm a mac fan, but I have to say that apple screwed the pooch with mavericks on this one. for the stock apple programs they got rid of the save button entirely and now everything auto saves. This is ok, but the really bad part is they got rid of save as - you know, you make some changes but decide you want to keep the original so you make this file v2 or whatever? Even worse, bowing to pressure they added back in the save as, but accessible as a secondary choice with option-click.

      the whole thing is just weird and to tell you the truth it made me stop using the apple programs so I never got used to it or fully figured it out.

    3. Re:Never used this keystroke by immaterial · · Score: 5, Informative

      I want Save As back as a first-class citizen as much as anyone, but the entirety of your rant there is simply flat-out wrong. You say there's no save option, but (as you half-acknowledge after complaining it doesn't exist) there is - and yes, it shows up in every document-based app. You say you have to go to Finder to duplicate a file, but the whole complaint here is that Save As has been replaced by Duplicate in the menu. The actual, still 3-step process is: Choose "Duplicate" (no need to save beforehand as it is the current state that is duplicated), type new file name, and (either the first time you do an explicit save or when you close the new document) deal with the Save dialog. The only way that is more difficult than Save As is that it disconnects renaming the new file from the save dialog. And if you prefer documents revert to the last manual-save state on close, simply check that box in the system preferences.

  2. Bah, we already said goodbye to CTRL-S years ago.. by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 5, Funny

    When it stopped meaning "Suspend output to terminal" along with it's partner CTRL-Q.

    In-Band serial flow control ftw!

    G.

  3. Good! by stewsters · · Score: 5, Funny

    Truly it is the year of the Linux Desktop. Long live :w

  4. Commits code changes automatically by vivaoporto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My IDE commits code changes automatically

    TFA doesn't mention this and, if the summary writer meant "commit" as in version control commit, this would be a killer bug in the whole process.

    Version control is not meant to be used as a backup, every commit should be deliberate, reviewed and well explained in the comments. Vide the post mortem of the heartbleed bug (or many other similar ones).

  5. Auto-save is NOT your friend by ChrisC1234 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sometimes, I don't want to save. I will open a document with the explicit purpose of making changes that I don't want saved. Even Gmail's autosave has burned me pretty badly. I spent an hour typing out a very long email. Toward the end of it, something happened, and the whole body of text was gone. I'm still not really sure if it was a keyboard shortcut I inadvertently triggered, browser bug, or what. But I just thought "no biggie... I'll just go back to the auto-saved version". So I open up the autosaved version, and the latest auto-save happened AFTER the email body was deleted. So much for autosave @#$!#$@!!!!

  6. Welcome to the 1980's... by kylemonger · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... when GNU Emacs had auto-saving and backup versioning at any keystroke granularity you liked thirty years ago. Next we celebrate the boon of split screen editing.

  7. Re:IDE autocommit? by Daniel+Hoffmann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would anyone want to autocommit possibly broken code?

  8. Re:IDE autocommit? by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why would anyone want to autocommit possibly broken code?

    Maybe they work for Adobe?