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Iran Court Summons Mark Zuckerberg For Facebook Privacy Violations

wiredmikey (1824622) writes "An Iranian judge has summoned Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg to answer allegations that his company's apps have breached people's privacy, it was reported Tuesday. The court in Fars province ordered that Zuckerberg address unspecified 'violation of privacy' claims made by Iranians over the reach of Facebook-owned apps, ISNA news agency reported. 'Based on the judge's verdict, the Zionist manager of Facebook... should report to the prosecutor's office to defend himself and make compensation for damages,' Rouhollah Momen-Nasab, a senior Iranian Internet security official, told ISNA. Access to social networks, including Twitter and Facebook, are routinely blocked by Iranian authorities, as are other websites considered un-Islamic or detrimental to the regime."

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  1. Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by drunkennewfiemidget · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somewhere, Mark Zuckerberg is *still* laughing.

    1. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by RailGunner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ... until Eric Holder decides to arrest him and extradite him.

    2. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by sabri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somewhere, Mark Zuckerberg is *still* laughing.

      No, somewhere, Facebook is consulting attorneys on how to avoid a Fatwa so he won't end up like Salman Rushdie, or worse, Theo van Gogh.

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    3. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      How exactly could an attorney help someone avoid a fatwa?

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    4. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 4, Informative

      How exactly could an attorney help someone avoid a fatwa?

      Not all countries separate church and state. Iranian attorneys (and most mid-east attorneys I'd guess) have to navigate religious law as well as civic law.

    5. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      He's probably just glad that he lives in a country that apparently cares less about privacy than Iran.

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    6. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Facebook's unique proposition is that it can be both "un-Islamic" and "un-American" at the same time, doing the same thing.

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    7. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      How exactly could an attorney help someone avoid a fatwa?

      Dress up as Mark Zuckerberg?

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    8. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Russ1642 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're assembling a massive database of personal information. Sound pretty American to me.

    9. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by mmell · · Score: 4, Interesting
      No, but I'll bet he's happy to live in a country that has progressed beyond institutionalized racism. I'm pretty sure just being of Jewish descent is enough for a prosecution in Iran.

      "...the Zionist manager of Facebook..."

      I'm guessing the verdict and sentence have already been established. All Iran needs is a victim.

    10. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Um, some friends of mine got a fatwa from their imam about marriage recommendations last week. The word "fatwa" is the same thing as asking a member of the clergy for written advice.

      Yes, there are problems with Muslim extremists, but I do wish people would stop turning the words "advice" and "school" into things meaning stuff they shouldn't?

      Lets be real here: Iran has its problems, especially with extremists However, the country itself isn't evil, and Iranians in general see through the political BS more than Americans see through the CNN/Fox News/MSNBC charade.

      In the scheme of things, the Iran court is a propaganda item to shore up the hard-liners who run the country. MZ isn't going to Tehran, nor will he be extradited there. If there were an extradition treaty, virtually every US and European citizen would be in deep trouble. The Iranian population knows this charade, and they likely will continue to quietly keep to their VPNs and continue to avoid the morality police/IRG members.

      Again, one needs to separate Iran (the government from the Iranian people.) The people are smart enough not to use a jube as a waterslide.

    11. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Hmm, can we take a nationwide vote with regard to maybe allowing extradition of Mr. Zuckerberg?

      :D

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    12. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Dragon+Bait · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No country is on that list. They USA will never and has never extradited a person to another country.

      Good thing you're an Anonymous Coward, because you're not even close to reality. According to US Embassy based in London:

      During the same time period, the UK submitted 54 extradition REQUESTS to the US, of which none have been refused. Of those 54 requests, 38 resulted in extradition of an individual from the U.S. to the UK. In the remaining 16 cases, the individuals either returned to the UK on their own or other circumstances made extradition from the U.S. to the UK no longer necessary.

    13. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Dragon+Bait · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's Islam Shariah Law. The rich are always favored over the poor.

      I don't know, the Iranians just hanged a banker.

    14. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by TangoMargarine · · Score: 2

      I find it strange that Iran is trying to prosecute him for violating the privacy of people in every country OTHER THAN Iran...or, presumably, any other Western Infidel-blocking countries. If facebook is blocked in Iran, why would they give a fuck about it violating someone's privacy? Other than publicity.

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    15. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um, some friends of mine got a fatwa from their imam about marriage recommendations last week.

      I understand what you are trying to explain about fatwas, but that is still very creepy for me, that someone would go for written approval from a religious figure for any important decision in their own lives. If you told me that your friends went to a Catholic priest, a Hindu Holy man, the Dalai Lama or Oprah Winfrey for recommendations, I would make me feel just as creepy.

      Friends of mine are adults, with their own free will, and decided for themselves that they wanted to get married. It was their decision.

      So what do your friends do when the their imam issues a fatwa on how to trim their garden . . . ? Or who to vote for in the next election . . . ? Or that their neighbor is a Zionist . . . ? Do they have free will and responsibility in their lives . . . ?

      I feel that this reliance on religious authority is exactly what eventually leads folks down the path to commit atrocities in the name of religion . . . because, well, it wasn't their decision . . . it was made by a higher authority.

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    16. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Friends of mine are adults, with their own free will, and decided for themselves that they wanted to get married. It was their decision.

      Are we to presume you never seek advice or counsel from other people? You must be an idiot to think you know everything and can evaluate every possible nuance.

    17. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by gameboyhippo · · Score: 2

      And let's not forget "Dog the Bounty Hunter".

    18. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed. Iran has some pretty intelligent people there, and much of the population is college educated.

      The problem is, after seeing Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya, etc., no one is looking to overthrow a government any time soon, but looking instead for slower reforms.

    19. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by jbolden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Iranians in general see through the political BS more than Americans see through the CNN/Fox News/MSNBC charade.

      America is vastly more democratic than Iran. The more democratic a government, the less the government can use violence and fear of violence to propagate its will and thus the better the propaganda.

    20. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by nbauman · · Score: 2

      Like the president of the United States of America, who solicits written advice from a bishop, an archbishop, a reverend, a most reverend, a sister, an elder and a rabbi?

      Not President Bush. He gets advice directly from God.

    21. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by jbolden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's why we have the armed police and the drones - we're so ... democratic!

      We have armed police and drones because the population overwhelming supports both. That is democratic. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it non democratic.

    22. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by sjames · · Score: 2

      I vote we send him over Angry Birds style.

    23. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by Eddy_D · · Score: 2

      I'll buy-in when they start hanging lawyers.

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    24. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by smithmc · · Score: 2

      You know, nobody is putting a gun to your head and making you use Facebook. If you don't want to use it, don't use it.

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    25. Re:Yea, I'm sure he gives a rat's ass. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      Um, some friends of mine got a fatwa from their imam about marriage recommendations last week. The word "fatwa" is the same thing as asking a member of the clergy for written advice.

      That's what I was getting at. A fatwa is not a legal declaration, an attorney has nothing to do with it.

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  2. Good luck on that... he won't appear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is no way I see Zuckerberg appearing in an Iranian court anytime soon, regardless of the charges. I personally wouldn't step foot in the country myself, as an atheist, I'd be risking my neck because I'd likely say something stupid and get myself thrown in prison for heresy.

    1. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by JeffOwl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Regardless of my actual ethnicity or religion, if my last name ended in ...berg I wouldn't go anywhere near Iran.

    2. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny

      Regardless of ... well, pretty much anything, I wouldn't go anywhere near Iran.

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    3. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Zuckerberg wouldn't even need to say anything. He'd be jailed as an evil Zionist spy or some other nonsense the moment he tried to leave the country. I wouldn't fare any better with the last name Levine. You couldn't pay me enough money to travel to Iran.

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    4. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by grasshoppa · · Score: 2

      Are you kidding? I hear there's some great hiking up along the border.

      ( god damn retards )

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    5. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which is sad because the country has quite a bit of history, and from everything I've heard the residents are actually a friendly and cordial people

      I've known many people over the years who identify themselves as 'Persian'.

      They've been exceedingly nice, smart people for the most part. But, even they try very hard to distance themselves from Iran, the land of the batshit crazy.

      And, I'm sorry, but the present-day country called Iran is no place I'd ever want to go. The historical Persia which had art, and science, and philosophy (and tolerance), and lots of cool things ... that I'd love to see.

      But don't ever forget there's a difference between the historical entity, and the present one. And the present one is ruled by crazy idiots.

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    6. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by Thud457 · · Score: 2

      Beautiful country.
      A shame about the government.

      Wait, who were we talking about again?

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    7. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by harrkev · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Which is sad because the country has quite a bit of history

      It really is a shame. That part of the world used to be known for arts, sciences, and education. I wish that it were still that way...

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire

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    8. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by TheSync · · Score: 3, Informative

      But, even they try very hard to distance themselves from Iran, the land of the batshit crazy.

      I just met a guy who claimed "Iranian" heritage. His (muslim) family left "Iran" in the 1800's, and moved to Lahore.

      On the other hand, I live in a neighborhood with Jews most of which moved from the Islamic Republic of Iran shortly after they revolution. They call themselves "Persian".

      As per Wikipedia, the term "Eran" is found to refer to Iran in a 3rd-century Sassanid inscription, meaning "Land of the Aryans".

      On the other hand, the country has been known in the West as "Persia" from the Greeks "Persis", meaning land of the Persians. There are Persians in Iran, but not all Iranians are Persians. Some Iranians are Lurs, Ossetians, Kurds, Pashtuns, Balochs, and Tajiks.

      In 1935, Reza Shah requested that the international community refer to the country as Iran.

      So it is complex...

    9. Re:Good luck on that... he won't appear by dotancohen · · Score: 2

      Regardless of my actual ethnicity or religion, if my last name ended in ...berg I wouldn't go anywhere near Iran.

      "Berg" is a common German family name. Both the Germans and the Iranians are the Aryan race. Thus, the "Berg" families would be closer to the Iranians than most other westerners.

      Note that the nation changed its English name from Persia to Iran at the insistence of Nazi Germany, to identify itself with Aryan pride (before the second world war). The words Aryan and Iran are cognate.

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  3. Zuckerberg the Zionist by gavron · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure Mr. Zuckerberg is aboard the first American Airlines flight from San Francisco to Tehran.
    Oh wait, no Southwest flight goes to Tehran.

    Surely he's booked on United Airlines. No, wait, they don't fly to Tehran either.

    Looks like NONE of the US carriers go there. Is it because they don't like money? That can't be
    right. Is it because they are shareholder driven and their shareholders are all either dirty jews
    or clean jews or some combination of clean and dirty jews? That seems unlikely.

    OH WAIT, I GOT IT!

    IRAN IS A TERRORIST NATION, A SPONSOR OF TERRORIST GROUPS, CALLS THE US
    THE GREAT SATAN AND WANTS TO DESTROY US AND ISRAEL TOO AND IS A HOTBED
    OF RELIGIOUS CRAP THAT MAKES THE BIBLE BELT AND WASHINGTON DC LOOK LIKE
    SECULAR NOOBS.

    I guess they won't have Zuckerberg to demonize if he doesn't go there.

    Perhaps they'll burn his effigy along with President Obama, the US Flag, and a fake
    nuclear wessel.

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    1. Re:Zuckerberg the Zionist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Great Satan" -- first used in Nov 1979 to label the USA by Iranian leader Ruhollah Khomeini.
      "Axis of Evil" -- first used in Jan 2002 to label Iran, Iraq, and N. Korea by President George Bush.

      So it is childish to make the comparison, but "they started it", if you are comparing the two phrases.

    2. Re:Zuckerberg the Zionist by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      Hmm, as I recall China managed ~100 million since WW2. Which makes it number one of all time, I think. The USSR was number 2, the Germans (in ww2) were number 3, we may be number 4 (though there's a strong case to be made for Vietnam, and a weaker one for North Korea).

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    3. Re:Zuckerberg the Zionist by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      You have a point; it's even more of a point when you realise that "satan" means adversary. Now it means more in the USA when you say "Satan" -- but Christianity uses the name to represent "The Devil" or "Lucifer" -- in which case "the great satan" wouldn't really fit, as that would imply more than one satan.

      And I think it's safe to say that Khomeini and his regime considered the US their great adversary -- as did the USSR at the time.

      So many arguments throughout history began as a misunderstanding about word choice. Not saying that's the case here (as he was probably making an intentional play on words), but it's possible.

  4. South park episode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, sounds like an emmy award winning south park episode

  5. Re:Nothing short of a Fatwa... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sorry, but Facebook just reorganized how they display postings and the Fatwa didn't appear. Maybe they would like to advertise with Facebook to ensure that their Fatwa status updates appear at the top of everyone's feeds?

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  6. It's an interesting question by maroberts · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The USA has on a number of occasions extended its own laws to cover interactions with foreigners over the Internet. You only have to look at a certain naturalised New Zealander who the US have tried to extradite (Mega something or other, wasn't it)

    The European Union isn't perfect either, as this "Right to Be Forgotten" law also seems to want to establish national law when the dealings are with foriegn companies that essentially only have sub-offices over here. In actual fact, the Iranian allegations of "Invasion of privacy" are fairly similar to the European Union position, which is one reason why I hope that the silly ruling is buried in some manner.

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  7. Can we send Justin Beiber as his ambassador? by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    If we send the Beeb's in Zuck's place I think we could make everyone happy. Iran gets a white boy they can prosecute or just hold without cause for a really long time and the US no longer has to put up with his illegal actions or that noise he purports to call music. Considering there's a petition before the White House to have him deported back to the Canada anyway, I vote we offer this as an alternative.

    1. Re:Can we send Justin Beiber as his ambassador? by c · · Score: 4, Funny

      Considering there's a petition before the White House to have him deported back to the Canada anyway, I vote we offer this as an alternative.

      As a Canadian, I second this proposal.

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    2. Re:Can we send Justin Beiber as his ambassador? by rwv · · Score: 3, Funny

      Rob Ford is a good source material for jokes. He should get some form of immunity.

    3. Re:Can we send Justin Beiber as his ambassador? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Funny

      The White House already responded to the petition and refused to comment on his specific situation, despite the fact that over 270K people signed the petition, making it one of the most (if not the most) supported petition yet on the site.

  8. What he should tell them... by MiniMike · · Score: 2

    He should say that he'll fly over as soon as they send one of their Iranian stealth fighter jets to pick him up.

  9. ... nobody is talking about the privacy violations by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting that none of the comments so far talk about the blatant privacy violations that facebook commits on a regular basis. Even more so, nobody talks about the fact that violating your privacy - or convincing you to willingly give up private information - is the very business model of facebook.

    Say what you want about Iran, but they do have a point here. Will anyone listen to them? Probably not.

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  10. On the other hand.. by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 2

    ...they could ask for someone who would show up instead. What's Dennis Rodman up to these days?

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  11. Iran = NZ by Tokolosh · · Score: 2

    I'm sure the Iranians have observed America's approach to Kim Dotcom with interest.

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  12. Re:Where's grumpy cat when you need him? by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    Well, that's not the example given. The president certainly could have a single person killed for some arbitrary reason, he's already doing it. Which is what the OP had suggested. We've no idea how widespread the governments clandestine activities have gone. People disappear in this country all the time. 1 in 100 are in prison right now. How do we know a lot of that isn't politically motivated? If you'd have suggested such a thing to me a few years ago I'd have laughed. But ever since Snowden and the drone strikes on US citizens? It's all out the window. I've no idea what they're up to or even capable of. If they feel justified in murder without trial on US citizens overseas, I just don't see a line between that and me sitting in my living room other than "The president's discretion" which, quite frankly, is not enough of a line for my tastes.

  13. Re:There is no divorce in Catholicism by Zak3056 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's a pretty short list of what is considered acceptable grounds for annulment.

    You might believe that, but practice is a bit different. My parents were married for six years, then (civilly) divorced. Two years later, they remarried each other (I have no comment on how smart my parents are) or, in the Catholic view, "renewed their vows." This marriage lasted another two years or so before they separated for good (the divorce followed along a couple of years later).

    Fast forward a decade and a half, and my father (who in the interim married a second wife and had a second divorce) wants to marry a devout Catholic who refuses to marry outside of the Church. My father was able to obtain an annulment despite the opposition of my mother, her family, and my father's entire family (my grandmother (dad's mom) felt strongly enough about it to write letters to an archbishop and a cardinal). The archdiocese of Oakland saw no reason not to grant the annulment, and did so.

    While I do wish my father domestic happiness, the result here is completely absurd, and goes to show that if you send enough money the church's way, morality is flexible.

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