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Geophysicists Discover How Rocks Produce Magnetic Pulses
KentuckyFC (1144503) writes "Since the 1960s, geophysicists have known that some earthquakes are preceded by ultra-low frequency magnetic pulses that increase in number until the quake takes place. But this process has always puzzled them: how can rocks produce magnetic pulses? Now a group of researchers has worked out what's going on. They say that rocks under pressure can become semiconductors that produce magnetic pulses under certain circumstances.
When igneous rocks form in the presence of water, they contain peroxy bonds with OH groups. Under great temperature and pressure, these bonds break down creating electron-holes pairs. The electrons become trapped at the site of the broken bonds but the holes are free to move through the crystal structure. The natural diffusion of these holes through the rock creates p and n regions just like those in doped semiconductors. And the boundary between these regions behaves like the p-n junction in a diode, allowing current to flow in one direction but not the other. At least not until the potential difference reaches a certain value when the boundary breaks down allowing a sudden increase in current. It is this sudden increase that generates a magnetic field. And the sheer scale of this process over a volume of hundreds of cubic meters ensures that these magnetic pulses have an extremely low frequency that can be detected on the surface. The new theory points to the possibility of predicting imminent earthquakes by triangulating the position of rocks under pressure by searching for the magnetic pulses they produce (although significantly more work needs to be done to characterize the process before then)."
When igneous rocks form in the presence of water, they contain peroxy bonds with OH groups. Under great temperature and pressure, these bonds break down creating electron-holes pairs. The electrons become trapped at the site of the broken bonds but the holes are free to move through the crystal structure. The natural diffusion of these holes through the rock creates p and n regions just like those in doped semiconductors. And the boundary between these regions behaves like the p-n junction in a diode, allowing current to flow in one direction but not the other. At least not until the potential difference reaches a certain value when the boundary breaks down allowing a sudden increase in current. It is this sudden increase that generates a magnetic field. And the sheer scale of this process over a volume of hundreds of cubic meters ensures that these magnetic pulses have an extremely low frequency that can be detected on the surface. The new theory points to the possibility of predicting imminent earthquakes by triangulating the position of rocks under pressure by searching for the magnetic pulses they produce (although significantly more work needs to be done to characterize the process before then)."
Science, bitches.
piezo effect? With magnetism, electricity can't be far behind. I wonder if that can't start underground coal fires.
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Don't nobody tell ICP.
those pulses are clearly a MUTO mating call.
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Given that lots of animals are sensitive to magnetic fields, this would also seem to explain them reacting prior to earthquakes.
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Why is it that the holes can move but the electrons can't? I thought holes were just places where electrons could be but aren't, so moving holes implies movement of electrons.
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You'd have to be pretty gullible to believe it was humans that were responsible and not the Nordics.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
No, the earthquakes are caused by fracking, and the pre-quake pressure causes the pulses. So, the pulses are of indirect human origin, while maintaining plausible deniability.
Come on, don't you know anything about conspiracy theories?
Jim Berkland used to monitor the classified ads in the newspaper for trends in missing pets. Back when there were newspapers, and they had classified ads.
And TT Brown had done some interesting research into geologic piezoelectricy, although Wikipedia only talks about his anti gravity research.
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The new theory points to the possibility of predicting imminent earthquakes by triangulating the position of rocks under pressure by searching for the magnetic pulses they produce (although significantly more work needs to be done to characterize the process before then)."
But that will only find certain types of igneous rocks formed underwater peroxy bonds under pressure. Not all rocks under pressure. Still if this type of rock is prevalent enough in a region, it could be useful.
Also geologists have been calculating rocks under stress using so many methods and observation. The problem is the slippage and failure occur unpredictably. The stress can be estimated. The strain may be observed. At least the surface strain. But the ultimate (or failing) strength of the rock layers is largely unknown.
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When I see the word "semiconductor" I think "transistor". I wonder if this discover can lead to a new type of commercially practical semiconductor. Obviously not on the size scale of seismic plates, but perhaps this effect can be created in other materials,now that we know it exists.
Friedemann Freund is a man with a lot of ideas.. At Yuri's night at the NASA Ames campus, he demonstrated this magnetic pulse-from-rock by using a dense column of rock and a hydrolic press. He had a saucer sized capactive sensor that was tied to a small microcontroller for remote-sensing/field usage that could detect the change in the electric feild near the rock column as it was compressed. He mentioned that he'd instrumented a fault line. He mentioned that the current released was strong enough to ionize the air around the faultline if a lot of rock was compressed at once. Compression can happen before an earthquarke, which is why it may serve as an early warning detector. He also thinks that some animals go nuts before an earthquake because they can smell traces of the the ionized air.
Here is his profile: http://www.seti.org/users/frie...
He also has some interesting ideas about the origins of life on earth, specifically the chemistry of mud on the ocean floor, about how long polymer chains can form; the working material for the first cells, and alternative theories of oxygen formation in our atmosphere..
Except all studies seem to indicate that animals do NOT act any differently before an earthquake. It's all seems to be post hoc, ergo propter hoc reasoning.
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Clever work. I'd go so far as to call it... igneous.
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Both are forms of energy density.
Animals freaking out beforehand everywhere is unlikely , however standing right above a fault-line where a sudden discharge of energy may be a different story.
Since the 1960s, geophysicists have known that some earthquakes are preceded by ultra-low frequency magnetic pulses that increase in number until the quake takes place.
The pluses would have been more impressive if they decreased in number at some point with anti-pulses. I'm guessing they meant frequency instead of number.
This summary made me think of LEDs and earthquake lights. Even if there is light generation, though, I can't imagine that it would be very intense. And then there's the whole "buried under meters of rock" issue.
IAAP (I am a physicist), and my work field concerns also geophysics. TFA is very suspicious for several reasons. I just list the simplest points to understand
First, there are way too much self references: take for example the first sentence "Rocks, especially igneous rocks, behave as semiconduc- tors under certain conditions". They connect this sentence to four papers previously published by one of the authors (Freund). Nobody else in the scientific world ever verified that rocks are semiconductors ?!? This does not make a good start for the topic they are going to discuss.
The authors claim that it is more than 50 years that the boundary between earthquakes and VLF emission has been established. Unfortunately this is not true: if it were, seismic network would be composed of radio receivers, they are way cheaper than seismometers. The existence of a connection between VLF emission and earthquakes is still an open question, and there are no conclusive proofs supporting it.
What we know is that earthquakes are usually not associated to a simultaneous VLF emission, so a theory explaining how earthquake precursors can trigger a VLF emissions should also justify why earthquakes have no VLF emission as well.
Figure 1 of TFA is a masterpiece of deception: please look at the value range in the graphs showing the computed and measured events: do you still think that the numerical predictions estimated by the authors and the field measurements can be defined "similar" ?!? They only share the same shape, when drawn on very different time and amplitude ranges!
Summing up, I am afraid that this paper isn't going to be of any help with earthquake prediction...the next, please!
The next step will be to see if there is enough evidence to support a theoretical assertion. Then, testing and experimentation can be devised to either support or disprove that theory.
They're suggesting that the Earth's mantle (silicon with an extremely high percentage of impurities present) may act like a semiconductor (silicon with tiny percentages of specific impurities present), creating a natural Zener diode, a huge but inefficient one. I'm with you - skeptical. Still, it should be possible without too great an investment in manpower or materials to support or disprove their hypothesis. Should it survive that step to become a theory, supporting or disproving it shouldn't take too much more work.
Let's say it's a huge earthquake, something along the line of the 8.something earthquake that shook Fukushima, causing tsunami and untimately got that nuke plant to melt ...
In a big quake like that, how _far_ can the magnetic pulse propagate ?
10 miles ? 100 ? 1000 ?
Has anyone got any info ?
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