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US Marshals Seize Police Stingray Records To Keep Them From the ACLU

An anonymous reader writes 'A routine request in Florida for public records regarding the use of a surveillance tool known as stingray took an extraordinary turn recently when federal authorities seized the documents before police could release them. "This is consistent with what we've seen around the country with federal agencies trying to meddle with public requests for stingray information," Wessler said, noting that federal authorities have in other cases invoked the Homeland Security Act to prevent the release of such records. "The feds are working very hard to block any release of this information to the public." ... "We've seen our fair share of federal government attempts to keep records about stingrays secret, but we've never seen an actual physical raid on state records in order to conceal them from public view," the ACLU wrote in a blog post today.'

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  1. Ha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just another example of the "open administration"!

  2. Get used to it. by Chas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These kinds of shenanigans are going to continue until the American public puts a stop to it.
    Note, I said the public. Not the government.
    The government, and it's various tentacles, simply don't WANT it to stop. Even if diverse individuals composing said tentacles do.
    It is simply one more way of maintaining some form of leverage against an increasingly interconnected population that can make it's own decisions and plans without a bunch of stuffed shirts and their ridiculous budgets.
    It will continue until they are physically restricted from doing these things.

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  3. Embarrassing info, or are the feds just idiots? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There could be a number of reasons why they don't want the info public

    1) It doesn't work that well, or there is an obvious defense against it they don't want public.

    2) They've been abusing their power some how by collecting info on people not really suspects, and don't want to be hit up by every divorce lawyer in the country. ( not sure if that's really illegal).

    3) They're idiotic power tripping jerks that think its an ultra secret thing that will cause all law enforcement to lose its effectiveness if more people know about it.

    4) It contains evidence of alien life forms visits to our planet, and their preference for blackberry cell phones.

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  4. BASTARDS! by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, I don't know about you, but I feel safer knowing the NSA is keeping those filthy terrorists, the ACLU, away from information of high importance to national security. Why we don't jail anyone who even reads the Constitution is beyond me.

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  5. Re:Obama's police state? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > What exactly goes through their minds?
    "I'm just doing my job." Just like you they have families too that need to be fed.

    Whether it's being a jack booted thug violating laws in order to spy on everyone or escorting prisoners to the gas^H^H^Hshower chamber and then disposing of the bodies in an oven, these people are merely doing their job and getting paid for it.

    Why ask beyond that?

  6. Re:Obama's police state? by amxcoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are union workers, making good union pay, with an awesome retirement package, and are granted power and authority over everyone else, including the ability to be armed at all times. My guess is they don't want to give that up, for any price. I would re-write your last sentence, and say most are "have the 'adrenalin junky' need (and life insurance) to take on an armed criminal and too enticed by their job benefits to refuse orders and loose it."

  7. Re:Obama's police state? by BoberFett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's us vs them. They're the good guys, and everybody out there is a bad guy.

    Why let red tape get in the way of taking down the bad guy?

  8. Re:Obama's police state? by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are they "true believers" who really managed to convince themselves this is all for some kind of nebulous greater good?

    Pretty much.

    There's a degree of self-serving included. They work for the government so any attempt to reveal what they do and how they do it is an attack on them.

    And if you're attacking them, that makes you the "bad guy". And they have to stop the "bad guys".

  9. Re:Obama's police state? by ah.clem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because the police state apparatus could not function if these people remembered their humanity.

    I have known several police officers in my lifetime - almost to a person, they had the attitude that the world was made up of two kinds of folks - them and the "perps" - and we're all the perps. To paraphrase Bryant in "Blade Runner", "You now the score, pal; if you're not cop, you're 'little people'".

    An interesting aside from an ex-LEO in the town I live in; according to him, they figure it's about 7 years from rookie to bad cap. Not sure if that is true all over, but it seems reasonable; they're average HS grad/CJ AAs to start out with, and they see the worst of humanity on daily basis - pretty easy to lump everyone together after a while, I bet.

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  10. Re:Obama's police state? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Each and every single cop is a 'bad cop' when they refuse to apply the law to their peers.

    The LAPD shot at a truck full of old women because "it matched the description of Dorner's truck" (except that it didn't, and don't they have these things called license plates?). What happened there? Cops watched other cops fire on a vehicle with no indication of the occupants posing an imminent threat to anyone. What was the aftermath? It certainly wasn't placing cops in jail and removing their special cop status which makes them above the law. How many times do incidents like this occur in the United States? Probably so many that it would make you sick.

    Each and every single cop will never protect you or your family, ever, under any circumstances. Each and every single cop is out to harass you, detain you, steal from you, beat you or shoot you. The only interaction you can ever, EVER have with a cop winds up with you on the losing end. Even if you are in a coma and can pose no danger whatsoever, a cop will get away with shooting you due to 'officer safety'.

    Yes, it really, REALLY has gotten this bad with police misbehavior.