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Driver Study: People Want Fewer Embedded Apps, Just Essentials That Work Easily

Lucas123 writes 'A study released at the Telematics Detroit 2014 conference revealed the obvious: Most people don't want more distracting embedded apps in their cars; they just want essential apps like navigation and music to be intuitive to use and reliable. Part of the study involved a focus group of 46 people who were asked to evaluate infotainment systems from three luxury car makers and four "mass consumer" car makers. The drivers were asked to do three things: Navigate home, find a pizza shop and find a radio station. Only 40% were able to complete all three tasks. Not surprisingly, the highest rated infotainment system was Tesla because its icons were "large" and it was easy to figure out.'

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  1. Need to be able to use without looking at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For any in car control - I need to be able to use it without looking at it.

    Too many things fail at this.

    1. Re:Need to be able to use without looking at it by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In theory, sure. In practice, we're not all perfect super drivers who pay proper attention to the road at all times, and very short glances at a control panel in realtively safe moments isn't an extraordinary risk.

    2. Re:Need to be able to use without looking at it by rsborg · · Score: 2

      For any in car control - I need to be able to use it without looking at it.

      Too many things fail at this.

      This is the single reason that I think Google (and later Apple) have developed always-listening voice interfaces "Hey Google/Siri" with no button clicks is about as look and even touch free as you can get. Of course, if voice control were more mature yet, it'd probably be the preferred interface over fingers (see: Star Trek).

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    3. Re:Need to be able to use without looking at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >and very short glances at a control panel in realtively safe moments isn't an extraordinary risk.

      Maybe not for you, but idiots that will not be able to do so safely won't understand that fact, because they're idiots. Adding distractions in cars puts us all at risk.

    4. Re:Need to be able to use without looking at it by beefoot · · Score: 2

      For people like myself with accent:


      me: ok google, please lower the temperature
      google: yes sir, your car is shifted down to 2nd gear
      me: no don't do that. I'm driving at 140kmph
      google: yes sir, sit tight. the car will accelerate to 140mph
      me: not mile per hour
      google: sorry sir i don't understand
      me: I gave up. stop listening to me
      google: yes sir, I will stop the car now. Please ensure the seat belt is on. You're travelling at 140mph.
      me: (me on the way to heaven) thank you google

    5. Re:Need to be able to use without looking at it by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I already have Android in my dashboard. a simple double din CHINA car stereo running Android 4.2 is 80X better than any of the crap that FORD or GM has ever came up with.

      WAYZE is the best navigation app in the world for User interface, I can even report a cop location with very little attention taken from the road.

      I installed one of the older "CAR MODE" launchers and it's even better. I can customize it to hell and back in my driveway and then enjoy ease of use and even voice control to the point that I can say ,"ok google, text my boss that I will be late due to traffic"

      BOOM! the text message is off and I did not have to do anything but hold down the home button.

      Whatever GM,FORD,Toyota,Honda,BMW,Mercedes, or whoever car company tries to come up with will be a complete worthles turd compared to a dirt cheap $500 Ebay china stereo with regular old android on it.

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    6. Re:Need to be able to use without looking at it by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      Google Now Launcher is almost perfect. Putting into a "car dock" mode would be even better, where it is always on. Allowing me to change the default "wakeup" from Okay Google to Okay KITT would be over the top cool for me.

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    7. Re:Need to be able to use without looking at it by tomhath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. If you can't use the control it without staring at it when it changes at every touch it shouldn't be in a moving vehicle.

  2. What I want by clinko · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The car stereo I wanted 10 years ago"
    "The car stereo I want today":

    http://i.imgur.com/NGcUN.jpg

    1. Re:What I want by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      This.

      All I'm reading in TFA is "I want something that is exactly my mobile phone".
      Just offer in-dash "car kits" where you just clip the phone in a 2-DIN. (these already exist).
      Fancier cars could offer similar for tablets.

      Nobody needs a $4000 in-car navigation when their $400 phone already does the same thing better.
      Heck, they might even just leave a phone/tablet in permanently and it'd still be cheaper.
      "Cheaper" is probably why this isn't a standard option in cars; $4000 for $400 worth of technology is so much more profitable than BYOD.

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  3. I WANT BUTTONS by maliqua · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Things that i can feel i'm working and not touchscreens!

    BUTTONS KNOBS AND TACTILE FEEDBACK!

  4. Re:Response time and voice controls by Gaygirlie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That means sensitive touch controls with very little lag

    No. That means no touch controls. Touch controls force you to look at where you're placing your fingers and what's happening. Actual physical knobs and buttons can be used even without looking.

  5. Doesn't surprise me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I test drove a Cadillac recently and GM's touch screen looks like it was built by people with zero UI experience. Of course, it's just about as bad as every other modern app. Nobody understands flow anymore. And it's not an American thing either. The same problems plagued touch interfaces on imports as well. Oddly, BMW's is much better than it used to be.

    This garbage is so sluggish, too. Adjusting climate controls used to be a matter of turning on a knob. Now, I have to tap on a vague piece of plastic. Nothing happens, so I tap again. Then again. Finally, the fans kick on FULL BLAST... And apparently there are only three speed settings. And seriously, adjusting volume by sliding your finger across a screen? Jesus Christ, whomever thought that shit was a good idea is a fucking MORON... Why have umpteen volume levels if all you can do is wildly skate between 0 and MAXIMUM with barely any control.

    I don't care if I sound like the old man on the porch, shaking his fist. These UIs are completely retarded.

    1. Re:Doesn't surprise me. by hax4bux · · Score: 2

      You sounded old at "cadillac"

  6. Need MS Office embeded by cyberspittle · · Score: 3, Funny

    I need Microsoft Office embedded app so I can work on business-critical documents.

  7. Touch controls: NO! by Toshito · · Score: 2

    Like the new Lincoln MKZ with TOUCH controls for volume and temperature, on a smooth surface, without any tactile reference. Bravo!

    I even hate the push buttons and rotary controls for the heater, it used to be that you could control everything with 2 slides, one for temp and one to choose where to send the air.

    It was very easy to know, only by touch, where the slides are. With a rotary button, you have to look at it to see where it is pointing. And the push buttons are also much less convenient, if I have to put the control on front defrost quickly (because the windshield is suddenly fogging) with the old controls I only had to slide it all the way to the right.

    Now I have to find the front defrost button wich is the second to the right, flush with all the other buttons.

    Even in some car manuals of the 70's and 80's it was stated that if you want to defog or defrost the car in an emergency you just put all the slides to the right or to the top (depending on the orientation of the controls) without thinking, it will automatically put the heater to front defrost,maximum heat, full fan, outside air (no recirculation).

    It's the same problem with almost every interface today, from electronics (think about how easy and fast it was to change the volume or choose the input on a 70's Receiver, with it's big buttons compared to receivers of today with it's tiny buttons and display you have to look at)

    Don't get me started on volume and mute controls. Why don't laptops get a physical cut off switch as a mute button? When I power up my laptop in a library or at school I have to remember if I put it on mute the last time, and if not I need to wait for the mute button to become responsive but since it's controlled by software and a certain driver, it becomes usable right after Windows decide to play it's login sound. Very annoying. How much would it cost to put a physical switch to cut out the electrical signal to the speakers???

    I think we're moving backward with UI, today look ingenuity and trend is more important than usability.

    Now get off my lawn!

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    1. Re:Touch controls: NO! by joe_frisch · · Score: 2

      Its not just cars - the F35 fighter plane has touch screen controls!

      If you think manipulating a touch screen on a bumpy road is bad, imagine trying to do it while making 6-G turns in a fighter. In turbulence I sometimes have trouble hanging onto physical knobs on my 50 year old Beechcraft.

      At SLAC we have installed real physical knobs to control the accelerator and they work. Operators can look at displays and have the tactile feedback of moving a control. It speeds up machine tuning.

      Touch screens are a way to save money, but in most cases do not improve the user interface.

      (Damn kids,, don't know how to design a UI like they did in my day....and the music they listen to.....grumble).

  8. Re:On the other hand... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My experience is that people either use the nav system in their head, or they use the one in their car. They have problems doing both at the same time. This means that if you depend on a nav system, you'll always be really new in town, as you'll never learn to associate the instructions with what your eyes actually see out the window.

  9. Poor Dataset of Infotainment Systems by Amigori · · Score: 2

    If you're going to do a study on automobile infotainment systems, you need a broader set of data: 46 people with 7 types of systems, 2 of which are very uncommon. This dataset sounds like they just asked around their office and of the 46 people that work there, only 7 employees had any sort of infotainment system, 3 being the bosses.

    Want to do this study right? Go rent 10-12 cars with the various systems, park them at Walmart one day and survey, park them at the mall the next day and survey, park them at the fancy downtown shopping district and survey, and then hold a private dinner for the upper-class folks and survey. 4 distinct groups and hundreds or thousands of data points.

    Be sure to include systems that actually are used: Toyota Entune, Ford Sync, GM/Chevrolet Intellilink/MyLink, Honda HondaLink, Dodge/Chrysler Uconnect, Nissan NissanConnect, Mazda, Volkswagen, BMW ConnectedDrive, Mercedes Comand, and Cadillac CUE.

    Come on, how many people actually have a Porsche with an infotainment, or a Tesla? Seriously, Ford sold twice as many Fiesta's in the US last year than Tesla has sold total.

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  10. Re:sad by tomhath · · Score: 2

    If you sat in a showroom for 10 hours strait (sic) you're doing it wrong. Decide ahead of time what you want and how much you'll pay. Make an offer, if they don't like it - get up and walk away.