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Kim Dotcom Offers $5 Million Bounty To Defeat Extradition

heretic108 (454817) writes "Internet mega-entrepreneur, uber-gamer and now NZ political corruption-buster Kim DotCom has posted a bounty of $5 million to anyone who can dig up any dirt which saves him from extradition to the U.S.. This bounty would be payable not only to government employees, but also to anyone who can retrieve documents clearly proving corruption in the whole prosecution process. 'We are asking for information that proves unlawful or corrupt conduct by the US government, the New Zealand government, spy agencies, law enforcement and Hollywood', Dotcom told website Torrentfreak.com."

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  1. Cartels by Wowsers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about the film industry creating a cartel and using laws to enforce it, stuff like region coding DVD's and BluRay's, encryption, or adding unskippable bs like copyright notices on LEGIT bought products. The "pirates" are obviously giving consumers a better product, but corrupt governments side on the media cartels who refuse to update their business models to the current real world - they are stuck in the last century.

    The law has been bought and paid for by the corrupt media cartels. The law is a disgrace, as are our bought corrupt politicians.

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    1. Re:Cartels by CreatureComfort · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The "pirates" are obviously giving consumers a better product

      "Giving consumers a better product" would be going out and making their own movies that are better than Hollywood's. No laws against that anywhere. It's also not what they're doing. What they're doing would be more akin to me walking into your place of work and offering to do the work you did for the past month, for $50. You've already done the work, you just don't get paid, and I get $50. That's just giving your employer a better product, right? These tired old excuses for piracy are, ironically, from the last century, and I didn't realize people still talked like this in 2014.

      To stretch your analogy:
      Well, except that, if my employer wanted a copy of the work I've done for the last month, which, BTW, I was already paid for, I wouldn't expect him to pay me my full salary to have it done all over again. Not when he can, and does, have the minimum wage secretary make a Xerox for nothing more than the cost of her time, a little electricity, ink, and paper.

      Just because the industry wants to exploit their rape of popular culture and turn every thought or utterance into a money stream for themselves, and has the money and position to get the elected officials to pass laws that are diametrically opposed to the wishes of the electorate that voted them into office, doesn't make it right.

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    2. Re:Cartels by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Laws MUST be supported by the general population if they are supposed to be upheld. Laws OPPOSED by the majority of people are actually a threat to the legal system itself.

      If there is laws that most people oppose (like, say, a lot of laws in former communist states), they will break it, or at the very least, they will not report it if they know someone else breaks it. Be honest: Imagine your best friend kills someone in cold blood, would you tell on him? I'd say the chance that you do is at the very least a LOT higher than you ratting him out for downloading some blockbuster movie. Why? Because your support for the law against murder is (at least if you're a somewhat normal human being) a lot stronger than your support for copyright. If the latter exists at all.

      Copyright is a law that is enforced by and for a minority. While at the same time opposed or ignored by a majority. The danger here is now that this not only means that copyright becomes a hollow shell of a law, it means that laws are questioned entirely. Allow me an example.

      I remember an experiment where a "no littering" sign was put up prominently on a corner of the street. And no littering happened. The place was clean. Then, after a week IIRC, they dumped some litter on the spot and it didn't take long for the litter to grow and multiply. When people see a law being ignored with impunity, they will follow suit.

      The problematic thing here is that copyright is one thing. What's next? When you can break copyright laws, why not other laws? We identify copyright laws as unjust and wrong, so what about the others? Are the other laws right? Or should we take them into question as well? Why not break other laws? Once you broke one, breaking another one gets a lot easier.

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    3. Re:Cartels by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nope.

      Basically nope. I mean, sure, you can make stuff up about me if it makes you feel better. If you look at my wall full of DVDs and don't even consider the ones I've given away to charity shops, you'd be hard pressed to claim I'm a freeloader.

      I still use TPB. Heck, I even download Agents of Shield from TPB despite it being 100% legal for me to watch it either broadcast or online.

      Why do you think I do that?

      It's because the service offered by TPB and the resulting product is indisputably etter than what you can get elsewhere. The advantages of TPB are:

      * Variety of size / quality options available.
      * Everything available in one place.
      * Great search engine.
      * No "streaming" crap, you just get a file.
      * No DRM: you can watch the file anywhere.
      * No ads.
      * No unskippable "content".
      * Works in my favourite media player.
      * Works on my phone.
      * Even my in-law's TV can play the files natively.
      * Some very old, obscure stuff available.
      * Good download clients where you can prioritise stuff you want now, versus stuff you want later.

      The disadvantages:
      * No obvious way to compensate people for their work.
      * I do not actually believe that impossibly proportioned women would like to date my testicles.

      A better product is more than just the film itself. If someone jabs you with a sharp stick for the entire duration of the film as a condition of you watching it, then that, too is part of the product.

      TPB removes the bit where they jab you with sticks. People like that, free or not.

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  2. Re:How about a Kickstarter... by mellon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hundreds of millions of people _do_ do copyright infringement, because there are typically no adverse consequences.

    FTFY.

  3. Re:You can't enjoy five million dollars from a cel by mellon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If simply being an asshole was just cause to terminate your civil rights, we'd all be behind bars.

  4. Re:You can't enjoy five million dollars from a cel by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yea, you should definitely defend the fraudster by claiming it was US government corruption that put him where he is.

    He should be let off because his corruption was okay, because someone else was doing it too ... right?

    If I had to choose between a sleazy fraudster going to jail, and the uncovering (and correction) of government corruption, I'd choose the latter. Government corruption, at least in this particular case, is far scarier to me.

  5. Re:How about Kindergarten? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it's not yours, don't take it without permission.

    If it's not just yours, pay a corrupt legislature to make it exclusively yours, and to make anyone else using it a criminal offense, enforced by the threat of violence.

    Fixed that for you.

  6. Re:US Government is Corrupt by Inspection by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The US Government is corrupt in the same way that 1 + 1 = 2. You needn't prove it to know it is true.

    That's true of all government.

  7. Re:You can't enjoy five million dollars from a cel by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Informative

    For anyone who doesn't know, Kim Schmitz aka Kimble aka Kim Dotcom has a history of electronic theft, theft of trade secrets, insider trading, fraud, and has narrowly avoided prison in Germany a handful of times. He's was doing it before his "career" took off, hacking into banks from as early as 1995.

    Go look into Kimvestor, a shoddy investment firm, and Data Protect. He made his "fortune" selling the latter off at the peak of the dot com bubble. Later he straight up pump-and-dump'd Letsbuyit.com, netting over â1.5m in profit.

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  8. Given his record... by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...I wouldn't count on him actually planning to pay a cent.

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  9. Re:You can't enjoy five million dollars from a cel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is your point? That he was guilty then, so whatever charges the government brings against him now are valid, and no matter how much the government violates standard procedures and illegally obtains evidence, it should be ignored?

  10. Cartels by CodeBuster · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's really only true in the United States and somewhat less so in Europe. In most of the rest of the world they don't really give a damn about copyright, at least in practice. Oh sure, foreign governments will sign the copyright conventions or promise to enforce local laws, but in practice they turn a blind eye.

    First, film and music piracy is largely considered to be an American problem and it's hard to get people to care much about rich foreigners being less rich (and all Americans are rich by their standards). Second, in Mexico, Brazil and other South or Latin American countries, media piracy is looked upon with about the same seriousness as jaywalking if it's looked upon as a crime at all, which it's often not. The police down there largely couldn't care less and they look the other way in return for modest bribes. Third, in societies such as Mexico and Brazil, which are very unequal in terms of wealth and income, pirated or knock off goods are the only way that most people have any access to consumer items. Without pirated media and knock off goods, they largely wouldn't be able to afford any foreign things like DVDs, name brand fashions, music, video games and the like.

    Lastly, the copyright business in Mexico especially is frequently under the control of the cartels (the drug cartels not the American media cartels). The two biggest are Los Zetas (who based their logo on the title card of The Godfather) and La Familia Michoacana. The pirated DVD business doesn't bring in as much scratch as drugs, but it does provide walking around money to pay cartel foot soldiers and helps the cartels maintain presence and better control territories in Mexico. Of course, it goes without saying that they're not very concerned about copyright laws being that they torture and kill as a matter of doing business. The Mexican government itself already doesn't have a large enough budget for their own internal needs, never mind enforcing foreign copyrights. So you see, copyright is essentially de-facto meaningless outside the United States and Europe.

  11. Re:You can't enjoy five million dollars from a cel by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For anyone who doesn't know... Kim Dotcom [is a massive asshat]

    Sure, he is. What's truly incredible is that a piece of lowlife scum such as that can come out looking like the good guy. He's small-time scum, but he's being pursued heavily buy much worse, scummier big-time scum.

    He might be bad, but the people pursuing him are much worse. The fact that they're doing it using your taxes and claims of legality makes it vastly worse still.

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  12. slashvertisement by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Internet mega-entrepreneur, uber-gamer and now NZ political corruption-buster Kim DotCom

    Which PR agency do you work for that Kimble has contracted to polish up his image?

    When will the /. crowd understand that the guy is mostly a career criminal and he's the exact kind of person who will feed you to the sharks if he's your boss? His goal in life is winning and living large, and he doesn't give a fuck about politics, inventions, freedom, Internet or any of the other tools he uses to accomplish his goals.

    Suckers, all of you.

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