There's No Wind Chill On Mars
sciencehabit writes: Even though daytime temperatures in the tropics of Mars can be about –20C, a summer afternoon there might feel about the same as an average winter day in southern England or Minneapolis. That's because there's virtually no wind chill on the Red Planet, according to a new study — the first to give an accurate sense of what it might feel like to spend a day walking about on our celestial neighbor. "I hadn't really thought about this before, but I'm not surprised," says Maurice Bluestein, a biomedical engineer and wind chill expert recently retired from Indiana University–Purdue University Indianapolis. The new findings, he says, "will be useful, as people planning to colonize Mars need to know what they're getting themselves into."
Meteorologists will lobby against colonization. The weather reports on Mars simply wouldn't be exciting enough without wind chill.
Wind chill works because of evaporation on the skin, right? I don't think anyone is going to be walking around on Mars outside a biosphere, in a T-shirt. If you're wearing a space suit, wind chill is totally irrelevant or am I missing something?
Not too relevant for people, but if you're designing a solar collector to warm an underground settlement this is pretty important. You would still need some large mirrors to get enough energy to be useful. But the low atmospheric pressure would dramatically reduce the insulation requirements. Maybe just a couple of layers of reflective foil around the pipework and behind the collector to reduce radiation losses.
Similarly, if you're planning a high pressure (from a mars perspective) greenhouse this has a real bearing on heat losses.
We could get a shitload of fossil fuels and take it there (perhaps with a really -long- petrol pump pipe) and burn it off in the atmosphere, perhaps by driving lots of 4x4 SUV's. That should help ensure that Martian average temperatures rise nicely by 1 or maybe even 2 degrees Celsius in only a century.
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Mars' atmosphere is about 1.5 % of Earth's atmospheric density. It's around 20 mBar, or eight times too thin for sustaining life even if it was pure dioxygen. For all practical purposes it's near-vacuum. And vacuum makes for a very good thermal insulator.
Maybe we deserve this world ?
Mmmm no. Southern England may be at the same latitude as Minneapolis, but because of the North Atlantic Drift (branch of the Gulf Stream) the climate is very different. -20C is generally not encountered in Southern England even on a very cold night in a very harsh winter.
The real use for this info is understanding and designing for thermodynamic exchanges with the Martian atmosphere. The useful takeaway from this article is that heat dissipation from a source will be dominated by infrared emission rather than contact exchange with the atmosphere. Useful knowledge for the design of electronics, pressure suits, and habitats.
No joke. Elon's planning to make this happen really quite soon, and I'm inclined to believe him.
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Somebody already beat me with the post about the surface of Mars being beyond the Armstrong limit.
I'll just reinforce that by pointing out that the atmosphere at the surface of Mars is the same density as Earth's atmosphere at 34,600 m of altitude. Feeling a bit chilly is about the LAST thing you would have to worry about on Mars. Saliva vaporizing from the surface of your tongue, tears vaporizing in your eyes, and fluids evaporating from the alveoli in your lungs will be a bit bothersome if you open your mouth and eyes before you pass out from anoxia. Ever see the space-suit-looking contraption with full helmet that you have to wear in an SR-71? Well, the ceiling of the SR-71 is a good 8700 m below 34,600. Then there's the itsy bitsy detail that Mars' atmosphere is 96% CO2.
An oxygen mask alone just won't do any good.
These places aren't comparable.
Average January temperature in Minneapolis: -9C
Average January temperature in London: 4C
There is almost no air pressure on Mars. You might enjoy the temperature for the minute or so until you body fluids start to boil. Then the experience would change.
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact it's cold as hell.
So, what is the wind chill on Venus? Would a very dense, hot atmosphere have a wind chill?
Isn't wind chill a lower apparent temperature due to increased evaporative cooling caused by moving air?
When the atmosphere is of such low pressure than water can't maintain a liquid state, as soon as any skin is exposed, all surface water will evaporate and suck the heat away with it.
Assuming your head is still sealed so you've got air to breathe, it also wouldn't be nice having 1 bar of pressure trying to suck your blood through your skin.
It has more to do than "little".
According to the explanation of wind chill, it is one of the three methods of transference of heat that causes the phenomenon:
h/t Wikipedia
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