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Google: Indie Musicians Must Join Streaming Service Or Be Removed

Sockatume writes: In a statement to the Financial Times and reported by the BBC, Google has confirmed that it will remove the music videos of independent artists unless they sign up to its upcoming subscription music service. Many independent musicians and labels have refused to do so, claiming that the contracts offer significantly worse deals than the likes of Spotify and Pandora, and that Google is unwilling to negotiate on the rates it offers artists. A Google spokesperson indicated that the company could start removing videos within days.

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  1. Re:Ummm by NatasRevol · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think this is called capitulation.

    Google is now like "Fuck it, we're evil. What are you going to do about it? That's right, not a damn thing."

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  2. Re:FYI: remove from Youtube not from 'Google' by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the video is only hosted on Youtube (and I suspect many such videos are, otherwise the uploaders wouldn't make such a fuss), it will be gone from the Google search engine as well, so the net effect is the same.

  3. Re:People pay for music? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DON'T BE EVIL.

    Kill Google Now - before you are forced into their self-driving cars, and legally required to use their thermostat.

    SHARE AND ENJOY!

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  4. Summary is Awful by SJ2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This summary is complete misrepresentation, from the very start of the article.

    YouTube will remove music videos by artists such as Adele, Arctic Monkeys and Radiohead, because the independent labels to which they belong have refused to agree terms with the site.

    Whoever wrote that summary clearly has an agenda.

  5. Re:FYI: remove from Youtube not from 'Google' by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, so when Microsoft was forcing people into other products because of the de-facto standard of windows, you didn't care, right?

  6. Re:Ummm by Zordak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Don't be evil" is the Nobel Peace Prize of corporate slogans: It started out as a sincere, non-ironic effort, and then gradually morphed into the world's best parody of itself.

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  7. Re:People pay for music? by Tough+Love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So now evil is "If you do not like our terms then we will stop doing business with you."?

    It depends on who's saying this. If you have a lot of other options you can go somewhere else. If the company saying this controls the vast majority of the market and is effectively blacklisting you, that certainly isn't good.

    Correct so far.

    There are still alternatives to Google's service so it's not evil for them to say this

    Incorrect. In antitrust law the question is whether a company is able to exercise "market power", which does not depend on the mere existence of alternatives, but the relative market power with respect to the alternatives.

    but I think the feeling behind the GP's post is concern that Google is rapidly getting to the point where they will have too much information and control over markets.

    Which is governed mainly by the Sherman and Clayton anti-trust acts. But the GP's actual point was about evil, which is a moral and ethical issue. The legal questions are related to morality and ethics, but they are not the same. GP's point is about whether Google has unambigously crossed the line where evil begins. It seems apparent to me that, in this case, Google has done exactly that.

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