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Former FCC Head: "We Should Be Ashamed of Ourselves" For State of Broadband

An anonymous reader writes A group of internet industry executives and politicians came together to look back on the Telecommunications Act of 1996, and to do a little crystal-ball gazing about the future of broadband regulation in the United States. Former FCC commissioner Michael Copps was among the presenters, and he had sharp words for the audience about the "insanity" of the current wave of merger mania in the telecom field and the looming threats of losing net neutrality regulation.

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  1. About time by just_another_sean · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It took 18 years for them to figure this out? Whiles some grandmother in Sweden had 40 GB back in 2007?

    When can I get mine? And can I choose from more than one provider? And, most importantly, will I really get 40 GB?

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    1. Re:About time by just_another_sean · · Score: 4, Informative

      I wasn't talking about caps.

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    2. Re:About time by just_another_sean · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh, that's your solution? "You don't like Amerrika, git out"!

      Thanks AC, it's so obvious. We shouldn't focus on making our country better, as long as it's better than the worst shit holes in the world we're doing fine. And if you don't think so, don't bother, just move somewhere else.

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    3. Re:About time by just_another_sean · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, some grandmother does.

      I realize that's not typical, but it does illustrate what other nations are doing to continually increase their capabilities. Faster, no caps and lack of monopolies seem to be the norm for all developed nations except than the US.

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    4. Re:About time by GrahamCox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And there, in a nut, is why the USA is nose-diving into oblivion. If you believe it can't be improved, it won't improve. Rampant capitalism is NOT the answer to every need, and Sweden proves it. By treating internet access as a piece of necessary national infrastructure, instead of just letting "the market" fight it out, you arrive at a far better end point far sooner. It's got nothing to do with idealism, all you need to do is compare the actual results.

    5. Re:About time by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's unpossible. Most of us don't even read Slashdot.

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    6. Re:About time by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, Copp had this figured out for quite a while. Being slashdot and all, I understand the general inability to RTFA, so here's the pertinent part about this guy's history:

      Copps has been a longtime pro-consumer advocate. He was the lone member of the five-person FCC to vote against the merger of Comcast and NBC, and since the 2010 net neutrality rule was vacated in February he has been urging the FCC to reclassify broadband ISPs as a common carrier service. He has also advocated against continued media consolidation and big telecom mergers.

      The general gist of the rest of the article goes on to say how the rest of the suits were congratulating themselves on a job well done with the Telecom Act in '96 and generally celebrating the current state and where they see themselves going... until Copp takes the stand and gives everyone a verbal bitchslap:

      He led off by agreeing with the several executive speakers that true competition is the way of the future, and the best way to serve consumers. “But we haven’t given competition the chance it needs,” he continued, before referring to how poorly U.S. broadband compares on the global stage. “We have fallen so far short that we should be ashamed of ourselves. We should be leading, and we’re not. We need to get serious about broadband, we need to get serious about competition, we need to get serious about our country.”

      What I take from this is that this guy is a single life jacket trying to defend us in a sea of self-serving destruction bound sharks. Good luck to us all.

    7. Re:About time by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

      It took 18 years for them to figure this out? Whiles some grandmother in Sweden had 40 GB back in 2007?

      When can I get mine? And can I choose from more than one provider? And, most importantly, will I really get 40 GB?

      If you actually read the original article:
      http://www.thelocal.se/2007071...

      You'd find that having a son who is a Fiber optic researcher/engineer that wanted to demonstrate a new technology would help quite a bit. i.e. you fell for a publicity stunt.

      To make it even more silly, read the followup article:
      http://www.thelocal.se/2008033...

      Where it's revealed she didn't really use it much. The equipment was so large, and hot, she actually used it to dry her laundry.

    8. Re:About time by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      People act like it's so impossible to leave America. But seriously, if you don't like America, you truly, honestly, don't have to stay there.

      I didn't like America. I traveled. I found a place I actually liked a lot (Iceland). I applied for jobs. I got one surprisingly quick. I moved. And now I've lived here for years.

      There's nothing preventing you from doing the same. If you don't like America, you really can leave!

      Oh, and while we're talking about the internet... here's what my highly isolated, incredibly rugged/unstable terrain, tied-for-second-lowest population density, super-high prices for electronic equipment country's internet stats are:

      Data compiled by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) shows Iceland with:[1]

      83.2% of households having broadband Internet access in 2009 (2nd out of 34)
      99.5% of businesses using the Internet in 2009-2010 (2nd out of 31)
      91.5% of the broadband access being DSL in 2010
        8% of broadband connections using optical fiber in 2010

      The Global Information Technology Report 2010–2011[2] by the World Economic Forum ranked Iceland:

      1st out of 138 in terms of Internet users (93.5% of the population used the Internet in 2009)
      1st out of 138 in the use of virtual social networks (a score of 6.8 in 2009-2010, where 1 is not at all and 7 is widely)
      1st out of 138 in terms of Internet access in schools (a score of 6.76 in 2009-2010, where 1 is very limited and 7 is extensive)
      1st out of 138 in accessibility of digital content (a score of 6.62 in 2009-2010, where 1 is not accessible at all and 7 is widely accessible)
      1st out of 137 in the number of secure Internet servers (1,711.3 servers per million population in 2009)
      4th out of 138 in the extent of business Internet use (a score of 6.58 in 2009-2010, where 1 is not at all and 7 is extensively)
      5th out of 138 in terms of international Internet bandwidth (626.8 Mbit/s per 10,000 population in 2009)

      Fiber's really been taking off since the OECD study was done, it now even goes out to places like Vestfirðir, where in the whole region the largest town is under 4k people, and some towns are so isolated that they're legally classified as islands during the winter because the roads become impassable until late spring. But the fiber stays on. :) We're currently at about 65% home fiber penetration, and the telecoms are talking about hitting 80% by the end of the year.

      In general, we've got superb computer and net connectivity and literacy - even on the little stuff (for example, over here, IE is the number *three* web browser, and it's not even close). Reykjavík uses a direct democracy system for bringing public issues directly to the floor at city council meetings, the new constitutional drafting team was credited with online crowdsourcing the constitution (that's overstating the case, but they did make extensive use of online suggestions and discussions), etc. My only real criticism of the net environment here is that while domestic net traffic is generally uncapped, international usually is, you choose an international data package. So this leads to, for example, instead of using Pirate Bay, people use Iceland-only torrent sites like Deildu for file sharing. And one of the local companies, Síminn, is looking at the possibility of domestic caps too, which would suck. Crazy-fast connectivity is great, but not so great if you can't use it to download whatever you want.

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    9. Re:About time by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Have you actually started learning Dutch and putting forth the same amount of effort to getting a job in the netherlands that you'd put towards finding a job in the US (aka, months of searching and learning the right jobfinding approaches)?

      You might be surprised.

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    10. Re: About time by bmxeroh · · Score: 2

      Yeah and the speed test you posted is for Mbps, not Gbps. Huge difference. The comment about 40 Gbps is legit though.

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    11. Re:About time by Sarius64 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bullshit. I'm in Hartford, Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, England right now. 161Mbps down/12Mbps up/unlimited bandwidth for 35 pounds a month and I check the speed daily. My family is in San Diego where I pay $100/month for supposed business connection unlimited bandwidth (home version had a 300GB limit) 80Mbps down/20Mbps up and I actually get average of 20Mbps down/2mbps up (with a signed business contract) and I check speeds daily. Cox tells me to sit and spin or go somewhere else. They've bribed the government to give them the broadband in my area with not a single carrier that is higher speed. Fiber is available, if your the right government entity. Don't even talk about AT&T; they're worse than dirt.

    12. Re: About time by jxander · · Score: 2

      Not sure which is worse... that GP confused Mbps for Gbps, or the fact that the smaller one (less than a tenth of a percent of the other) would still be pretty damned good speeds around these parts.

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  2. Re:Meanwhile by amalcolm · · Score: 2

    I'd rather have hookers - maybe they can spell, too

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  3. It's a problem... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There seems to be some sort of cultural tipping point, among those at the important levers of a given nation's economy, between wanting to be captains of industry in a first world nation and being more than happy to help build a third world one, so long as they get to be members of the oligarchy in it.

    It's not as though our industrial titans were actually nicer in the past; but they didn't seem to have the same spirit of "Well, the bean counters say that just doing bare minimum upkeep and making oligopoly margins has a better ROI than actually building anything, so fuck trying and let's see about a bonus." Back in the day, when you rolled up your sleeves and got ready for a hard day of ruthless exploitation and wanton destruction, it's because you had some sort of grand plan in mind.

    1. Re:It's a problem... by Jade_Wayfarer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, that's the core problem of post-industrial society vs. industrial society. Maybe even post-modern world vs. modern world. Maybe people like Elon Musk (sorry, I know that everyone are already grew tired of his name, but I can't take another example from the top of my head) can renew the popularity of actually achieving something, rather than "great, we've secured the profit for our shareholders for the next quarter, fuck everything else". I, for one, would really love to see a beginning of a "neo-modern" era.

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    2. Re:It's a problem... by bberens · · Score: 2

      While I have an emotional bond to the idea of "accomplishing something" I don't think it's all that important economically. To turn the tides we need to re-empower the blue collar worker. In the past this was done primarily via unions and maybe that will be how it's done again in the future. Something's going to give, just not sure we're at the point where people are fed up enough to organize in a meaningful way.

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  4. So close, and yet... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But we haven't given competition the chance it needs

    So very true. Most of the impediments are about pole-access for community broadband, and that's at the State level. So many attempts at competition have failed at the pole-access level (which suits the incumbents just fine!). Sure, if you have Google money you can get through all of it, but even they only have a handful of cities, a drop in the bucket. Inequitable pole access is one of the reasons for the meager success of WISP's, and though I wish them well, spectrum is limited, glass is not.

    Whose internet is it anyway? And whose democracy is it anyway?

    And then he goes off the rails. It's a republic, for Pete's sake, and it's the Internet of whomever builds it. The interconnection of many and varied private networks is the model that has led to the most successful technological innovation in history. Mess with that at your great peril. Yes, the too-big-to-fail fascist/corporate model is attractive to miscreants, but fix that, don't wreck the Internet.

    He seems to be concluding that Congress is in a smarter position to fix it than the entrepreneurs who know what needs doing but are held back by the government regulations. Congress couldn't find its way out of a box unless K-Street told them where the exit was. Patching bad code with more bad code is not the way the Internet wins, either in a router or in the CFR. The odds of additional regulation from Congress not making things worse are slim to none.

    I'm pretty sure that he just made things worse by correctly identifying real problems and then prescribing unicorn farts as the solution from his bully pulpit.

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    1. Re:So close, and yet... by king+neckbeard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And then he goes off the rails. It's a republic, for Pete's sake, and it's the Internet of whomever builds it. The interconnection of many and varied private networks is the model that has led to the most successful technological innovation in history. Mess with that at your great peril. Yes, the too-big-to-fail fascist/corporate model is attractive to miscreants, but fix that, don't wreck the Internet

      Except for the places where they use different models than the US, and also seem to have faster speeds and less bullshit.

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  5. What's the point? by Pollux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a group of internet industry executives and politicians came together...

    Did this individual seriously believe he could make this audience of industry executives and politicians feel shame? What next? Will he tell a serial rapist to feel remorse? Will he tell a psychopathic murderer to feel empathy?

    These people are incapable of feeling shame. It's what's made them so successful in the first place.

    1. Re:What's the point? by KermodeBear · · Score: 2

      Do you remember the days when a politician would do something slightly out of line, he'd get caught, and then he'd resign? Well, I'm only a touch over 30, so I don't remember that happening but I know that it used to happen. Modern politicians seem to have no shame, no honor, no integrity; they will say whatever is required to get elected, do whatever they want while in office, and tell you, "Yeah? What are YOU going to do about it?" if you call them out on it.

      The worst part - the absolute worst part - is that they're allowed to do this. Too many people look at the ballot and like zombies pick the 'D' or the 'R' after the name instead of looking at what that person has done or considering the person's character.

      Character and principles matter. If you're a scumbag then you're a scumbag no matter what party you're in. Stop circling he damn wagons around some slimeball just because he has the same R or D that you do. If someone is scum toss them out. If you're stuck in the tribal mentality then it is even more important to do this so that YOUR tribe isn't the tribe of scum.

      (You != the person I'm replying to; You = the public in general )

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  6. It all comes down to one thing... by jonwil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It all comes down to one thing and that is a desire to make sure that pay TV (cable/satellite/fiber/whatever) isn't killed by the internet.

  7. Re:Cities should move to connection utilities by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    One of the problems is that cities and towns that have tried this have found an unexpected expense: Legal bills from fighting against the lawsuits that the Big ISPs start to prevent these projects. This is even the case when the Big ISPs don't server those cities/towns. To hear the ISPs put it: Competition from the government is unfair and if they don't serve that area then it is still unfair competition since they might, some day, decide to maybe serve it.

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  8. Too many unanswered questions by timrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The real issue here is that we have far too many unanswered questions when it comes to broadband internet. The biggest, of course, is who regulates ISPs and internet as a service (rather than the content on the internet). To this day, we STILL don't know the answer. Plenty of people have tried (and failed) to answer it.

    The FCC tried to initially regulate them as a Title I "information service", but that led to a bunch of lawsuits and eventually the Circuit Court of Appeals stepping in and saying that no, they couldn't regulate ISPs (especially in regards to network neutrality) under Title I. Now, years later, there's a debate over whether the FCC should step in and regulate them under Title II - something that the courts said would probably be in line with the legal authority given to the FCC by Congress. To this day, there is still no hard legislation as to who should regulate them, so it may very well be that even if the FCC regulates ISPs under Title II, a lawsuit by the telecos/cablecos could reverse the whole thing.

    The same thing is true of the "last mile", where supposedly it's regulated by local government.. but in practice it's ruled by Big Telco/Big Cableco and their constant lawsuits used to wipe out the competition. They can do this because there is no strong legislation preventing them from doing so, and until there is a law that provides immunity to competitors from being sued simply because they want to compete and prevents local government from signing all of the infrastructure away to Big Telco, lawsuits will continue to be the law of the land.

    We need to answer these questions first. Then we can start improving broadband in the United States.