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IRS Recycled Lerner Hard Drive

phrackthat (2602661) writes The Senate Finance Committee has been informed that the IRS recycled the hard drive of Lois Lerner, which will deprive investigators of the ability to forensically retrieve emails which were supposedly deleted or lost in a "crash." This news comes after the IRS revealed that it had lost the emails of Lois Lerner and six other employees who were being investigated regarding the targeting of conservative groups and donors.

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  1. Re:right-wing spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    BULLSHIT!!!!

    A bushel of Pinocchios for IRS’s Lois Lerner

    In the days since the Internal Revenue Service first disclosed that it had targeted conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, new information has emerged from both the Treasury inspector general’s report and congressional testimony Friday that calls into question key statements made by Lois G. Lerner, the IRS’s director of the exempt organizations division. ...

    The Pinocchio Test

    In some ways, this is just scratching the surface of Lerner’s misstatements and weasely wording when the revelations about the IRS’s activities first came to light on May 10. But, taken together, it’s certainly enough to earn her four Pinocchios.

    FWIW, "four Pinoocchios" is as bad as it get when it comes to lying.

    And that was over a year ago, before 12 months of foot-dragging culminating with seven cases of "the dog ate my hard drive."

  2. Re:Recycled Hard Drive?! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately there are no details of this recycled drive on Fox News, that's not surprising that they spin it like the IRS suddenly destroyed a HD. Politico has much more detail.

    As part of the investigation, the GOP has asked for all media that Lerner may had used like old hard drives, thumb drives, etc. This is fairly normal. The hard drive in question was in Lerner's computer until summer 2011. It had crashed and IT staff replaced it. The GOP wanted the hard drive so that tech experts could try to recover the data. But IT has long recycled that drive as it was no longer functioning. Personally I don't know of many IT staff that keep broken hard drives for 3 years.

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  3. Re:Fox News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-lost-lois-lerners-emails-in-tea-party-probe/

    It is a shame to NBC and ABC when even CBS is doing their job to some degree.

  4. Re:Anti-tax, not conservative, groups by Oligonicella · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your post is a blatant lie. "The Internal Revenue Service apologized Friday for what it acknowledged was "inappropriate" targeting of conservative political groups during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status." - Associated Press

  5. Re:Fox News? by Oligonicella · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or Leahy, Democrat from Vermont (since Hatch is a Repub):
    "You can't erase e-mails, not today, They've gone through too many servers. They can't say they've been lost. That's like saying, 'The dog ate my homework.' They're there, They know they're there, and we'll subpoena them, if necessary, and we'll have them."

  6. Re:How deep is the rot in Washington? by Oligonicella · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hatch (R) and Leahy (D) both disagree with you and they're in a better position to judge than you are.

  7. Re: left-wing spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/14/read-the-inspector-general-report-on-the-irs-scandal/

    The IRS inspector General disagrees with you.

  8. Why where the emails only on the desktop drive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work for local government (why I'm posting as an AC) in a state with strong Sunshine Laws. ALL of our incoming and outgoing emails are archived as they are part of the public record! Even if I deleted all of my emails, they can still be searched and produced if requested. Why isn't this the case at the Federal level????

  9. Re:Fox News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    They used to have a secret forum but it was exposed. (Not that they reported on it!)

  10. Re:How deep is the rot in Washington? by amosh · · Score: 4, Informative

    You... you know the actual story, right? Not just the fox news version?

    This isn't an issue of "politicization". The IRS was finally DOING ITS JOB and reviewing the applications of groups applying for tax-exempt status. They thought it would save time to, rather than investigate, just assume that groups with certain key words in their name - among them "tea party" and "occupy" - were engaged in political activity which should deny them that status. Amazing how Fox never reports on any groups OTHER than their chosen ones having had problems due to this, isn't it? Well, it's much easier to change the facts to match your preconceived notions than to change your notions to match the facts. And yelling about impeaching Obama is just so durned much fun!

    In any case, the whole issue is about two things - 1. It's bad to profile people, anyone, anywhere, and 2. There is a strong group in Washington that doesn't want the IRS to be doing ANY kind of job, let alone stopping people from improperly receiving tax breaks for influencing elections. The ability to pretend it's some type of political cover-up is just gravy.

  11. Re:White collar prison by operagost · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're presuming the IT guy even had any idea that something untoward was going on. That's unlikely. Many of us here are admins or have been on the past. When disabling accounts following a termination, have you always known why that person was terminated? I often didn't know when it was an involuntary dismissal.

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  12. Just when we think the IRS can't be any more evil by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...It gets worse. They are now claiming "my dog ate my homework" for precisely, and only, every employee named in this investigation. It would be fitting to apply the IRS' own special rule here, which is that if you can't prove your innocence, you're guilty. Long sentences for each of the accused, unless those hard drives can be made to miraculously reappear.