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Wikipedia Editors Hit With $10 Million Defamation Suit

New submitter Andreas Kolbe writes: "Businessman, philanthropist and musician Yank Barry and the Global Village Champions Foundation are suing four Wikipedia editors for defamation, claiming they have maliciously conspired to keep Barry's Wikipedia biography unduly negative. The Daily Dot article includes a copy of the legal brief and quotes Barry as saying, "My page was so ridiculously false and made me sound like a terrible person and people believed it causing deals to fall through. I finally had enough."

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  1. Well, this won't backfire! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, not at all.

    1. Re:Well, this won't backfire! by able1234au · · Score: 5, Funny

      Calling Barbara Streisand...

    2. Re:Well, this won't backfire! by Jesrad · · Score: 5, Funny

      I forget his name...

      And that's the punchline.

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    3. Re:Well, this won't backfire! by Mr.+Somey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm not sure the Streisand Effect applies in this case. He's not actually trying to hide unpleasant or embarrassing aspects of his past - what he seems to want is for the article to reflect his own version of those events, or at least to contain his version (or "spin" if you prefer) in some way. And since he's a marginal figure to begin with, he's really in one of those "any publicity is good publicity" situations.

      And these days, among the people whose allegiance Barry seems to value most (i.e., former professional boxers and their fans), attacking Wikipedia is hardly seen as a bad thing to do - just the opposite in fact, and you could probably say that for a wide range of people and professions, especially celebrities. Wikipedia has always been seen by many of them as an illegitimate, irresponsible, self-appointed power-grab by anonymous nobodies - because after all, it is - and the passage of time (and the continued unctuous malfeasance of Wikipedians) has only cemented that impression in their minds.

      It's all rather unfortunate, but also inevitable, given the way Wikipedians often behave.

  2. Falun Gong / Falun Dafa by bumba2014 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure about the English version, but the German version about Falun Gong / Falun Dafa contains a lot of negative lies, spread by the CCP. Every time someone corrects it, someone from china will change it back. At the end they didn't allow any changes anymore, and put half the truth and half the lies in it. Unfortunately a lot of people believe what is written in those articles. I can imagine this happening to a lot of subjects.

  3. RTFA by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Informative

    Reading the Wikipedia article, it doesn't seem all that negative.
    There are some negative details in there, but these are simple facts, stated in a short and factual manner.
    If you don't want people to know of your extortion practices, then either don't extort people or do a better job at it so you don't get convicted for it in a public court.

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    1. Re:RTFA by kactusotp · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well digging through some of the other pages I image it is stuff like this that he objects to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde...

  4. Re:Who is that? by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think it can be considered opinion, WP advertises itself as an encyclopedia, it goes out of its way to base its claims on citations. I'm a strong supporter of WP and this guys sounds like a "flim-flam man", however that doesn't mean he is wrong and it does appear that at least one editor was hell bent on causing him financial damage. OTOH $10M is a ludicrous exaggeration of any real damages, or it would be were it not happening in the US.

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  5. Re:Is what he's saying really true? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's what it looks like today -- after months of editwarring, followed by 2+ weeks of people trying to "fix" it, because of the bad publicity brought by the lawsuit.

    On 7 May, it looked like this.
    On 15 March, this is how it looked.
    All because of the four people Barry is now suing.

  6. Re:Progress by retroworks · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Agreed. I have no problem with Wikipedia editors being sued. I recently ran across a Wikipedia biography of El Salvador ex-presidente Jose Napolean Duarte which was written atrociously, basically accusing him of being a dictator behind a military coup. I corrected the article, noting he was actually popularly elected (a mayor of San Salvador, not a military coup leader), ousted in a coup, and then brought back in a counter coup, and then again popularly elected. Had to repost it twice, it kept getting "reverted" (it did get fixed but someone has since added "His military regime is noted for large-scale human rights abuses and massacres amongst the civilian population, supported by the Reagan Administration and the Central Intelligence Agency" to the first paragraph). Sure, Duarte was criticized for accepting the invitation of the second coup, but most people feel the human rights abuses were the work of the first junta and those opposed to the Salvadoran land reforms proposed by Duarte. But who has time to fight an idiot editor?

    This could get modded "off topic", I guess, but IMHO Wikipedia should encourage defamation lawsuits against its volunteer editors. The main problem is that people with extremely hostile views edit more perniciously, and moderate editors don't have time to fight about it. Unfortunately, that's a remedy of the rich, not for people who don't have the means to sue for defamation.

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  7. Well, one thing is sure ... by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yank Barry is a fucking asshole, and the "Global Village Champions Foundation" is a bunch of retarded morons.

    You may quote this entry on Wikipedia in case you need a citation.

  8. Re:Who is that? by Idarubicin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kind of like how climate change activists erased the Medieval Warm Period off of Wikipedia a few years ago.

    [citation needed].

    Here's the current article: Medieval Warm Period. It has a couple of pages of detailed text, a pair of graphs of temperature records, and three photographs of locations or artifacts relevant to the MWP's effect on human history. The article has 41 footnotes, mostly to peer-reviewed journal articles.

    Five years ago: 2009 version. A little over a page, one graph, one photo. 25 footnotes.

    For fun, ten years ago: 2004 version. Six paragraphs (three of which are a single sentence). Zero figures, zero photographs. Just 4 inline references.

    Scrolling through the article's editing history I don't find any period where anyone "erased" the MWP, aside from some short-lived vandalism. At no point is there any intimation in the article that the MWP didn't occur or was otherwise not a real thing. The article appears to have grown steadily in length, quality, and detail over the last decade, but its central points appear to have remained essentially unchanged. Your comment, however, appears quite typical of climate change deniers--boldly stating things that are patently untrue in order to gain the emotional support of people who don't fact-check you, while wasting the time of the people who do.

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