Supreme Court Rules Against Aereo Streaming Service
New submitter Last_Available_Usern (756093) writes that the Aereo saga is likely over. "The U.S. Supreme Court today dealt a potentially fatal blow to Aereo, an Internet service that allows customers to watch broadcast TV programs on mobile devices by renting a small DVR and antennas (in supported cities) to record and then retransmit local programming on-demand over the internet."
Ruling (PDF). Aereo was found to be publicly transmitting, according to SCOTUSBlog "The essence of the Aereo ruling is that Aereo is equivalent to a cable company, not merely an equipment provider."
Justice Stephen Breyer, writing for the majority, stressed that it was a limited decision that will not “discourage the emergence or use of different kinds of technologies.”
...and he's certain of that - how?
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If it requires a login/password and a user account, how is that "publicly transmitting"?
Would the judge also declare that when I'm watching Netflix via wi-fi, I'm also "publicly transmitting"?
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Assuming this means Aereo will have to shut down now. That, or raise their rates if they have to start paying some sort of cable access fee.
As a cord-cutter, Aereo was a nice way to have access to some live broadcasts (sports, voting shows where the voting closes after the show airs, etc). Most of our consumption is delayed, so alternative downloading and a large NAS handles 95% of our needs.
Guess I'll have to figure out a way to get OTA reception, but from all the research I've done, where I live the signal's aren't very strong / reliable.
No, nothing about this ruling was based on the constitution. It was ruling whether or not Aereo fell under the provisions of the Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992, specifically the provisions requiring cable TV system operators to pay broadcasters to carry those channels.
Fixing this would simply require an amendment to that act.
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While not the verdict I would have liked, this is not terribly surprising. Tech people often like latching on to literal interpretations, loopholes in language, or novel technological work arounds. However judges take into account the 'spirt' of the law, and are often interested in how something behaves or what it actually does as opposed to the technological implementation.
Regardless of the clever implementation, Aereo behaved like a subscription cable service. How it collected and stored programming was not relevant to this.
Figured this was going to be the outcome after Zediva Lost a few years back.
So apparently, if I VPN into my network using my cellphone, and watch my HDHomerun Prime I'm breaking the law.
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Or perhaps the defendant should have hired an attorney that's best able to explain the nature of the technology.
I'm thinking that the definition of "retransmit" isn't so much to do with UHF/VHF, as it is to record someone else's copyrighted content and to then play it back.
What I find most annoying is that it would cost a whole lot less for centralized storage of content instead of putting full DVRs in everyones' homes, and instead using what amounts to a thin-client to display that content. Granted, this means that control of the content is somewhat taken away from subscribers, but since the overwhelming majority of users of DVRs get them from their cable providers anyway and already really have very little control over the DVRs, the only real difference would be that the same TV programs wouldn't be stored millions of times, they'd be stored only a handful of times.
Some day maybe I'll get that mythtv box running, so then I can store locally and can control what I record/save, but on the other hand, maybe it's just better to turn off the TV and go do something else.
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I've never understood why anyone would want to sue Aereo. They increase the transmission range of local broadcasts. They don't strip the ads, so the advertisers still profit. The stations get increased viewership, which they could as a selling point to advertises. "Hey, not only do we reach 50,000 people in this area, but Aereo increases that by another 10,000 people!" Why would a TV station complain if someone could increase their broadcast range without charging them anything for it? If the station wanted to do that themselves, they would have to buy towers, increase power, deal with FCC regs, etc. Aereo does it for free!
And "cable TV" suddenly somehow means "any moving pictures transmitted over any metallic wiring?
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Actually, it was more based on the amendments the Congress made to the Copyright Act in 1976, to overturn two previous Supreme Court decisions (Fortnightly and Teleprompter). The Court had ruled that CATV (Community Antenna Television, which is exactly what it sounds like, put up one big antenna, and run coax from there to people's houses; it was used to get signal to areas that couldn't get good broadcast quality) was outside the scope of the Copyright Act, and Congress changed the law to clarify that it was.
In Aereo, the Court ruled that Aereo was largely similar to those CATV operators - it took the broadcast signal off the air and distributed it to multiple viewers, essentially simultaneous.y.
Regarding 1-to-1 vs. one-to-many, the ruling deals with this issue explicitly. See page 14.
Regarding it not being streaming to download your own data across the Internet, the ruling discusses this issue as well, see page 15.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/op...
The signals are free right?
Free to receive and view, but not free as in you can do anything you want with the material. The copyright holder still owns and controls the material so you cannot consider it yours and distribute it for anything beyond acceptable personal use, "fair use" or the other legal exceptions.
So as I read this, if you personally want to watch OTA signals captured from equipment you own and operate over the internet, fine, you just cannot do it for somebody else and certainly cannot charge anybody if you did.
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The Supreme Court was (rightfully, IMHO) unimpressed by a technical loophole allowing Aereo to essentially run their own cable provider without paying the fees cable and satellite providers must pay. But...
Personally, I don't think the retransmission fees should be legal. If a user is within the service area of a broadcast station, anybody should be able to use whatever means necessary to obtain that station; this seems to be a logical extension of the broadcaster's license to use the radio spectrum to service a certain area. After all, somebody with poor reception, but still within the service area, is still excluded from using that spectrum for other uses. (Outside the broadcaster's licensed service area, retransmission fees make a whole lot of sense...)
But since the fees ARE legal, Aereo's workaround creates an inherently inequitable situation where cable and satellite providers must pay retransmission fees, but Aereo avoided them.
No, that is not a retransmission. But it is a copyright violation.
The Court seems to think it's likely that the Legislative/Executive branches would have modified the law in a way that clearly included what Aereo doing to circumvent it. They're probably right, but what they should have done is refuse to hear the case and let the correct branches of government do their jobs. Many parts of the government are overreaching their authority in ways that are really troubling.
FCC "rules" that jailbreaking is legal. Yeah FCC!
FCC "rules" that Net Neutrality is dead. Boo FCC!
SCOTUS rules that cops need a warrant to search your mobile. Yeah SCOTUS!
SCOTUS rules that Congress meant to include Aereo in a law made before anyone had any idea that technology would make something like Aereo possible. Boo SCOTUS!
Executive says they won't enforce federal drug laws regarding pot. Yeah POTUS!
Executive says it's kosher to kidnap or even kill citizens without due process, as long as they're pretty sure they're bad guys and are physically in some other country at the time. Boo POTUS!
Where the hell are the lawmakers? Oh, that's right, They're busy dicking around spending all their time trying to make the other team look bad.
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In Aereo, the Court ruled that Aereo was largely similar to those CATV operators - it took the broadcast signal off the air and distributed it to multiple viewers, essentially simultaneous.y.
And that receiving and carrying it separately for each customer (using a separte tiny antenna and cheap-in-quantity integrated circuit digital radio receiver) was a transparent workaround that attempted to use an interpretation of the letter of the law to violate its intent).
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This case boiled down to one major issue: Whether the allegedly infringing conduct in this case was engaged in by either Aereo, or by its users. Don't get hung up on the public performance v. private performance issue; it was really certain that if Aereo was liable, that the performance was public; if it were the users, it would be private.
J. Scalia's dissent does a good job of explaining the issue:
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The votes were counted and certified, twice, according to standards and procedures established by Florida state law. SCOTUS intervened simply to prevent SCOFL from ordering a third count using newly invented standards, because a) they didn't have the authority to do so and b) it was in the best interest of the country that the transition not be delayed any longer.
And when the newspapers went into Florida afterwards to do their own counts, Bush still.
The fact that you're still grinding on this 14 years later just proves you're a partisan hack with no fucking clue.
Please, show me just one example of someone who has been sued for retransmission done for personal use. Just one.
Umm. Aereo.
People paid to have a signal retransmitted for their personal use. Not for broadcast, not for a public performance, just so they could personally use a signal that they already have a right to use. Only they substituted the internet for one of the many cables and retransmitting products that are already along the signal path to their eyes in a conventional setup.