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Protesters Launch a 135-Foot Blimp Over the NSA's Utah Data Center

Dega704 sends this news from Wired: Plenty of nightmare surveillance theories surround the million-square-foot NSA facility opened last year in Bluffdale, Utah. Any locals driving by the massive complex Friday morning saw something that may inspire new ones: A massive blimp hovering over the center, with the letters NSA printed on its side.

Activist groups including the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Greenpeace launched the 135-foot thermal airship early Friday morning to protest the agency's mass surveillance programs and to announce the launch of Stand Against Spying, a website that rates members of Congress on their support or opposition to NSA reform. The full message on the blimp reads 'NSA: Illegal Spying Below' along with an arrow pointing downward and the Stand Against Spying URL."

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  1. Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So Fucking Awesome!

    That is all.

    1. Re:Awesome by eis2718bob · · Score: 2

      A fairly complete description of this complex, its occupants, methods, and procedures was already published in 1961:
      Memoirs Found in a Bathtub, by Stanislaw Lem
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...
      All hail the Building, set in opposition to the Anti-Building!

  2. Re:The US government by sabri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are in reality a bunch of shameless cowards.

    I agree, but they're not as shameless as I thought. My first reaction was: they are not going to have a pilot's license much longer. But when I took a look at the aeronautical charts for that area, I was surprised to find out that it's not a prohibited area to fly over.

    In my humble opinion, this means that apparently the Government doesn't think this datacenter is such a big deal, otherwise it would have been a no-fly zone (like the plant a couple of miles to the left of the lake).

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    I'm not a complete idiot... Some parts are missing.
  3. How effective can the spying be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    If they are caught off guard by A BLIMP

    1. Re:How effective can the spying be? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      It can't really still be that easy can it?

      What do you mean? Why not?

      Not that we have exactly solved the truck bomb problem, but you can't get an unauthorized vehicle especially close to most sensitive targets anymore.

      You're not getting close to anything important, no. If you blew up something like that, there would be martial law and all kinds of fun toys to play with, they wouldn't miss those guys. You didn't believe any of that hoohaa about the sanctity of life or whatever, did you? Because I might lol for that, if not rofl.

      Anything actually important can't just be driven right up to trivially. It's not too hard to get on a base and kill some people, we've seen that demonstrated in fact, but you're not going to blow up major military infrastructure, or anything but possibly a redundant data center — at which point, security will be increased around others.

      But yes, yes you can get pretty close to stuff if you want to. And sure, you could bomb a lot of things if you wanted to. All this spying apparatus is supposed to permit us to keep tabs on people we think might do that, and hey... it might even do that, a little. But mostly, almost nobody is actually trying. If they were, it would be stupendously easy to blow up or otherwise wreck a whole bunch of minor infrastructure. What purpose would that serve, except to provide an excuse to shit all over your people, or just anyone standing around looking tempting?

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  4. Re:Why? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    It doesn't, silly, there's No Such Aerostat.

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    Ezekiel 23:20
  5. They screwed up the website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Too bad they are so utterly tone-deaf that they put up a website that requires not just your zipcode but also your street address in order to look up your congressional representative's record on the NSA. Stupid web2.0 fuckheads couldn't at least include a link to a list of reps to pick from in case we didn't want to hand out our home address to god knows what data brokers? Even when I disabled noscript and disabled requestpolicy that damn lookup still wouldn't work either. Epic fucking fail.

    1. Re:They screwed up the website by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So you're going to be targetted for looking up your representative's record?

      No, you're going to be targeted for looking up your representative's record regarding the NSA.

      Considering today's level of technology, does this really seem all that far fetched? A program watches the data stream, cross references the list of people who complain with what those people own, their health records, employment records, ie anything that could be used against them at some point, and if the system gets a significant enough hit, out goes the request for Judge Rubberstamp to sign some FISA warrants.

      Shit, other than the back end, they probably scripted most of it over a weekend.

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  6. Re:The US government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > In my humble opinion, this means that apparently the Government doesn't think this datacenter is such a big deal, otherwise it would have been a no-fly zone

    Don't attribute to moral convictions what is more easily explained by simple incompetence.

  7. Re:The US government by sugarmatic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Prohibited areas are few and far between, and don't include power plants as you suggest,despite what some obedient naive security person might proclaim to an even more naive reporter.

    The data center is wide open, and this was a peaceful protest. It is not possible from the picture to tell if the flight was conducted at a legal altitude or not. http://www.aopa.org/News-and-V... ==the law enforcement community proved itself to be a bunch of incompetent, fragile personality types.

    People like to believe anything that gives a sense of urgency or authority to what they feel they have to say.

    If the government truly wanted to protect the data center, they wouldn't have placed their chiller stations on the perimeter with no barriers,or their transformer service stations, etc. The place would be disabled for months at a minimum if they were affected. An airplane flying overhead? It would barely mess up the paint. There is no reason to shut down the airspace there.

  8. the NSA already thought of this. by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bluffdale Utah has a population of approximately 8000 residents who could at any time have seen the blimp, but the location of the site is so far to the outskirts of the city as to make it pointless. the only person who would see it immediately would be perhaps NSA employees entering and egressing, but its unlikely that theyd care.

    protesting over congress and capitol hill would make more sense, but thats illegal incursion into a longstanding no fly zone.

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    1. Re:the NSA already thought of this. by kirkc99 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Salt Lake area resident here. The data center is easily visible from I-15, on a busy commute from Salt Lake County to Utah County. I am sure the blimp would have been visible to tens of thousands of people on their commutes to work.

  9. THIS IS CIA COINTELPRO by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    We're talking those idjits at Greenpeace, here. Anybody that was on the fence on this just went with the NSA.
    They should have done a promo showing all the LOLCATS the NSA's put in GITMO, people'd burn the place down then.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  10. mis-targeted.. by nblender · · Score: 2

    I can't help but think the people you really want to antagonize are the employees and contractors... A Blimp that says something like "amoral and unethical people work here and spy on you" might do more to create unrest... The people who work there probably live in the community or surrounding community... If you can make someone uneasy about their employer, that's probably better...

     

  11. "NSA! "We've got NSA here!" by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "See? Nobody cares."

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  12. Re:The US government by 1s44c · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe it's just a disaster recovery site with a few hundred secretarial staff located there, the real show could be elsewhere. We just don't know.

  13. Re:federal law by present_arms · · Score: 2

    "Unfortuantely, I just lost a lot of respect for the EFF when they aligned themselves with greenpeace. EFF has been, until this point, a consistently ethical organization. Greenpeace has been, to this point, consistently unethical." The enemy of my enemy is my friend

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  14. Re:Two thoughts by gweilo8888 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Correct. The blimp in question is a four-seater GEFA-FLUG AS 105 GD/4 with a 41-meter Hyperlast envelope that inflates using two Cameron Shadow burners. It's powered by a Rotax 582 UL engine putting out 65 horsepower, mounted in pusher configuration with a four-bladed, fixed-pitch Helix H50F prop. (That's an ultralight engine and a lightweight glass / carbon-fiber prop, incidentally. Dy weight is under 1,100 pounds, and maximum takeoff weight is under 2,000 pounds.)

    http://www.gefa-flug.de/index....

  15. Re:The US government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It couldn't have been built there if it was going to get restricted airspace. It's right under the northbound flight path for aircraft landing at Salt Lake International Airport. Not to mention being right at the junction of two valleys it's the major through way for general aviation flights north and south, forcing new deviations around that site simply is not an option as to the west is a military reservation and to the east the terrain gets tall really quickly.

  16. Re:federal law by koreanbabykilla · · Score: 2

    the enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy, nothing more, nothing less.

  17. Re:federal law by dwillden · · Score: 2

    Maxim 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less. (Schlock Mercenary)

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