Seven ISPs Take Legal Action Against GCHQ
mrspoonsi (2955715) writes with this excerpt from the BBC: ISPs from the U.S., UK, Netherlands, and South Korea have joined forces with campaigners Privacy International to take GCHQ to task over alleged attacks on network infrastructure. It is the first time that GCHQ has faced such action. The ISPs claim that alleged network attacks, outlined in a series of articles in Der Spiegel and the Intercept, were illegal and "undermine the goodwill the organizations rely on."
The complaint (PDF).
Good luck with that.
UK == United Kingdom
From the article, it seems like the only ISP that was named in the Snowden leaks as being a target of NSA/GCHQ data collection was Belgacom, a Belgian ISP. I'm not sure how the law works in the UK, but in the US, all of the suits against the NSA so far have failed because the NSA can refuse to provide evidence. The only ISP they have direct evidence for is Belgacom, which does not appear to be a plaintiff in this lawsuit. If GCHQ can withhold evidence, how do they plan to prove that they were targeted?
"We're GCHQ and are therefore free to act in any way we see fit."
GCHQ is one of those things known better by the acronym than their full name. ... you know.
Even their homepage does not tell you what it stands for. I could tell you, but then
ISP = Internet Service Preventer
I wish them the best of luck. Even if they get nowhere with this lawsuit, eventually someone will.
Maybe these companies and others can start filing lawsuits naming the actual techs who work for these agencies. That might put a kink in things.
It isnt the dinosaurs in charge that are doing so much damage to the infrastructure, it is the 16-40 year old "I always wished I was james bond" type techs that are enabling it.
My guess would be General Communication Head Quarters
UK has lots of secret government organisations, that answer directly to the PM and cabinet, not to parliament.
MI5, MI6, Special Branch, UNIT and TORCHWOOD
Der Spiegel - Distributed Enhanced Reprint of Soviet Propaganda In East Germany, Electronic edition.
There are no acronyms in the summary.
At least tell us what the acronyms mean in the summary shithead.
Ok, from Wikipedia...
An Internet service provider (ISP) is an organization that provides services for accessing, using, or participating in the Internet. Internet service providers may be organized in various forms, such as commercial, community-owned, non-profit, or otherwise privately owned.
The Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) is a British intelligence agency responsible for providing signals intelligence and information assurance to the British government and armed forces.
The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) is a British public service broadcasting statutory corporation. Its main responsibility is to provide impartial public service broadcasting in the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands, and the Isle of Man.
The United States of America (USA or U.S.A.), commonly referred to as the United States (US or U.S.), America, and sometimes the States, is a federal republic consisting of 50 states and a federal district.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, commonly known as the United Kingdom (UK) or simply Britain, is a sovereign state located off the north-western coast of continental Europe.
Almost bud. Government Communication Head Quarters.
I was going to say it is pretty obvious what it stands for, I don't what that guy above is on about. Must be a little simple
BBC = British Broadcasting Corporation
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GCHQ = GeoCaching HeadQuarters.
ISPs = plural of ISP
U.S. = United States
shithead = mirror
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So, guys, any of you want to give your take on this?
Go on - present your case on its merits.
Thought not.
If I had mod points, you would get +1 FUNNY
Your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
I'm not sure the TORCHWOOD reference will mean much to the /. crowd. It should though, excellent series!
Gosh, thanks. That must be why the other ships call me Meatfucker -- GCU Grey Area (Eccentric)
==chlamydia
Government Chlamydia Headquarters.
Finally, that country/administration/system is being seen as it truly is..
That's what they bring/have brought/continue to bring to the world, and like any chlamydia-ridden foot-eater, they're proud of it.
In the spirit of the above suggestions, I presume the FBI is the Farming Board of Investigation and the CIA is the Central Idiots Agency.
Why is the UK going after their own agency? You would think they are okay with what GCHQ does. I mean, the US is okay with the NSA snooping on pretty much everyone across the Earth...
Buck Feta. You know what to do.
UNIT is not a British organisation, it's under UN control.
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Countries have had to spy on each other for centuries. Can't see how that can go away suddenly or become completely legal. It's a difficult choice because of course the FSB and various other people mostl likely love any discomfort that GHCQ experiences.
One of the ISPs mentioned is Mango in Zimbabwe - wow - that bastion of freedom. So the problem is that you either have to get spied on by your government or by other people's.
And here I thought it was Guitar Center. I could understand people being a little upset with them, but...
Government Codebreaking Head Quarters? What da fuck?
Your a Cambridge educated public school boy communist agent and have to feel to soviet Russia . oh sorry that's the 60's.
I should have said you totally disregarded all the laws and then go into private contracting with corporations to make big bucks.
Torch wood either Dead, Missing, Welsh (or all 3 in Owens case) hardly anything to boast about.
Funny how times change. For the better part of 20th century the Germans were the ethnocentric paranoid bad guys. Inch by inch under knuckle head Cameron, the UK is turning into the new nationalist extremists. Hopefully sensible heads in UK kick Cameron to the curb next election before British nationalist get too much out of control and destroy the EU.
Right, because Doctor Who isn't associated with nerds or anything like that.
Right, because Doctor Who isn't associated with nerds or anything like that.
Well, actually I would guess that the nerd association with Doctor Who is rather less pronounced than, say, everything Star Trek.
The anniversary episode was a major event here in Europe, for instance, certainly extending well beyond geekdom. Maybe that is different in the US.
But back to the Torchwood spin-off, I don't think I'd seen it referred to here /. so I guess I just presumed it hadn't been a thing in the US.
Gosh, thanks. That must be why the other ships call me Meatfucker -- GCU Grey Area (Eccentric)
UK has lots of secret government organisations, that answer directly to the PM and cabinet, not to parliament. ... and TORCHWOOD
The funny thing is, they COULD now name a secret organization TORCHWOOD. All of the Doctor Who references would pop up and the real organization would be buried in the noise.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
Nice strawman. Oh, and nice strawman. /. record.
Two strawpersons in three lines. Must be a
It could end up like the Zircon affair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z... with a former employee of the GCHQ and four unnamed defence officials in the UK press.
Once the information had spread to the public, further feeding a political crisis by going to court was seen as unproductive by the UK gov.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
It hurts the cool Cool Britannia image so carefully cultivated. Within the UK establishment exists a diverse set of feelings on helping the NSA with nothing positive to show for it long term.
The UK knows the USA can turn off the shared sites over any military or political issues at any time. The US has only agreed to share its methods and hardware for UK sites. That gives the no UK leverage if it really faces a conflict the USA has no interest in or wants a different outcome - Falkland, Diego Garcia.
Deep down the smarter people in the UK know the US has and will turn off the global US supplied information flow and the UK is then left lost in a very complex world.
So different factions in the UK gov want more UK only methods, less sharing and better exports from the UK to the world without always stopping due to US foreign policy.
UK staff at shared sites are serving two masters long term and over time the UK gov knows they cannot function if the US says no.
Events like this give a few very smart people in the UK gov and mil the option to reshape the total UK dependance on the US.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
The Government Code and Cypher School had known origins in 1919.
Government Communications Headquarters seems to have been cover for Bletchley Park in 1939 along with terms like BP, Station X. Even GC&CS was used as a cover name for the GCHQ.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"