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KDE Releases Frameworks 5

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KDE Community (3396057) writes The KDE Community is proud to announce the release of KDE Frameworks 5.0. Frameworks 5 is the next generation of KDE libraries, modularized and optimized for easy integration in Qt applications. The Frameworks offer a wide variety of commonly needed functionality in mature, peer reviewed and well tested libraries with friendly licensing terms. There are over 50 different Frameworks as part of this release providing solutions including hardware integration, file format support, additional widgets, plotting functions, spell checking and more. Many of the Frameworks are cross platform and have minimal or no extra dependencies making them easy to build and add to any Qt application. Version five of the desktop shell, Plasma, will be released soon, and packages of Plasma-next and KDE Frameworks 5 will trickle into Ubuntu Utopic over the next few days. There's a Live CD of Frameworks 5 / Plasma-next, last updated July 4th.

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  1. It looks awesome! Totally awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Congratulations to all the contributors, and thank you for all your hard work on this project!

  2. You don't know the Linux desktop market. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You clearly don't know how the Linux desktop market is organized.

    KDE 4 is the big player. It has 57% of the Linux desktop market.

    Unity is next. It has 14%.

    Xfce has 9%.

    Cinnamon has 5%.

    MATE has 5%.

    GNOME 2 has 4%.

    LXDE has 2%.

    The remaining 4% is spread among GNOME 3, CDE, WindowMaker, enlightenment and other minor players all with under 1% share.

    So as you can see, KDE basically is the Linux desktop market. Most Linux users today are using it.

    Citations:
    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments

    1. Re:You don't know the Linux desktop market. by sgage · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your citation is crap.

      From the Wikipedia entry:

      "This article is written like a personal reflection or opinion essay that states the Wikipedia editor's particular feelings about a topic, rather than the opinions of experts."

      The Wikipedia editor is a KDE fanboi. That's fine - I'm liking KDE myself, but I have a really hard time believing that Gnome 3 is splitting 4% "market shaqre" with WindowMaker and Enlightenment. We need some real statistics.

    2. Re:You don't know the Linux desktop market. by vux984 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The wikipedia article you cite doesn't include those numbers. It doesn't even MENTION Unity or Cinnamon, nevermind give marketshare percentages.

      I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you simply cited the wrong link... but I can't verify you numbers, and frankly find them suspect.

    3. Re:You don't know the Linux desktop market. by vux984 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't see a table with those stats. I don't see a pie graph at all. Unity and Cinnamon aren't even mentioned on the page.

      This is the link I'm visting, copy/pasted from the GP post

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  3. Re:Does it make a sound? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If the share is 0.2% does it matter? There are more reading this than using that.

    What's the market share of a Bugatti Veryon" Or a Lamborghini? You "market share" drones need to move to Idaho, so you can get a license plate that brags about "Famous Potatoes" to put on your Toyota Corolla.

    --
    The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  4. Re:What's been removed,dumbed down,made incompatib by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    KDE is probably the least dumbed down desktop environment there is.

    It's really massively customizable in ways suitable for power users.

  5. Re:Ask them about safety and security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    "I hear complaints about size + complexity and hence about insecurity, but no more specific rationale given for them yet. "

    That's because the complaints are unfounded.

    The libraries are the same size or smaller than their 4.x counterparts. Very little new functionality was added, as the focus was on modularity and Qt5 support. The 4.x development cycles were about adding necessary *missing* frameworks, while 5.x is about refinement. So size is a bogus measurement, particular as many pieces were upstreamed into Qt5 to reduce duplication of code.

    Complexity is actually lowered. Before we had libraries that had complex internal interactions and were conglomerations of multiple topics. "core" is not a great definition for a library. ;) With each library now focused on specific tasks and with each library having well defined dependencies, the complexity of each library has greatly *lowered*.

    So people making the size/complexity comments (which is news to me, actually :) are simply not sufficiently informed.

  6. Re:KDE becoming more rococo every day by Njovich · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The word plasma was never mentioned in my comment.

    A better "run command" dialog, a much improved window manager with amazing compositing, better screen management, bluetooth support, network management that didn't suck, hotplug device support, a more configurable taskbar that also includes launchers ('pinned' apps), pervasive search, shells for small-screen devices .. I could go on and on .. and that's only Plasma. The libraries also delivered huge improvements all over the place.

    Sorry, I had most of this stuff in KDE 3.5? Yes, it was under different apps, some of them not part of KDE, but worked fine for me. And if all of this is so much better, why does it work so much worse?

    Of course, for people who have made up their minds to rag on the 4.x series will make ridiculous claims like "rotating widgets were the only new thing". Get with reality, even if it .. no, ESPECIALLY if .. it runs counter to your pet ideas.

    Ah yes, the user is wrong. Well, do as you see fit anyway, this discussion would have been useful a couple of years ago. Your side with the 'user is always wrong, lets change it anyway' has won, and now KDE (and also Gnome, with the exact same reasoning) has become irrelevant for all but a handful of users (actually, I am one of these users that still uses KDE 4 daily, mostly because kioslaves is great). Hope you enjoy your victory!

    However, one thing I want to make clear, I have been using KDE4 for years exclusively (right up to this day), I have liked it a lot despite all the shortcomings. I went to the conferences, I contributed to KDE Look (remember that? That actually had good content back when there were still users), etc. And only now that I've been back to KDE 3.5 for a bit, I realized just how shitty KDE has become compared to what it was.