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Tor Project Sued Over a Revenge Porn Business That Used Its Service

redletterdave writes: The Tor Project has been sued in the state of Texas over a revenge porn website that used its free encrypted communications service. The plaintiff in the case — Shelby Conklin, a criminal justice major at the University of North Texas — alleges a revenge porn site called Pinkmeth "gained unauthorized access to nude photographs" she owned and posted them to the internet. She also said Tor, which The Economist once called "a dark corner of the web," was involved in an active "civil conspiracy" with Pinkmeth because the revenge porn website used the anonymous communications service to prevent others from tracking its location.

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  1. IETF next by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They set the standards for the TCP/IP protocol, the one used by the packets which conspired with the Tor network to move data around untraceably!

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    1. Re:IETF next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      sorry for the trolling comment but after seeing her ugly ass I wonder if she is suing because people did not vote her ugly chubby body the hottest in America?

      Lawmakers need to be beaten, at what point do you start holding idiots accountable for self-pics, then being fuc*** stupid enough to send them via a network? These people deserve what they get! If they dont like it then stop acting like morons. This was the only way for her to get any cock? Are you that desperate to photo your ass pretending your some hot piece? You dont want to strip for the guy and have sex naked? I can remember with my memory (something people forgot they had) the women I screwed around with, and I still get a high hard-on thinking about them without the need of a photo!

      And worse yet is you have underage nude "selfie" photos all over the net. You need laws for the people that are doing this, that they need to understand responsibility, and some self respect. I love seeing nude women but only if their doing it with the intent on getting attention and knowing that the web site their posting on is there for that reason.

      I cant believe how many people actually supported laws over this?

  2. Pretty sure this won't work by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On the Tor darknet are sites which host and trade enormous amounts of child porn, and one which specializes in leaked nude photos of celebrities, some of which have been successfully removed from the web. If it were legally possible to sue the Tor project over .onion sites, it would have been done a looooong time ago.

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    1. Re:Pretty sure this won't work by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You forget that this case is in Texas and that Porn and the Internet are involved. Quite literally anything can happen here.

    2. Re:Pretty sure this won't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes although I'd bet money that Shelby Conklin is going to discover how unpleasant the Streisand Effect can be. She will probably now be known as the revenge porn woman.

    3. Re:Pretty sure this won't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, she is doing it wrong. The nobility of her intent does not excuse the harm caused by the ignorant execution thereof.

    4. Re:Pretty sure this won't work by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which is a pity. I am seeing a lot of terrible comments lobbed at this woman and people giving a free pass to whoever obtained her images and the site for hosting them.

      Nobody's "giving a free pass" to the revenge porn site. We're just not talking about it, because the revenge porn people, in this particular case, aren't the ones making a public ass of themselves. "This woman" is, and thus, shall be the subject of our collective ridicule.

      In that, hey, how sad is it that she's making herself look worse than a revenge porn site?

      Yeah it was stupid of her to name Tor as a defendant, but that can be explained by her simply not being part of the tech culture and thus not really aware of how things go together. Keep in mind she is only a student.

      Yea - a law student. Who apparently doesn't actually understand the law. Again, not helping her own case here, both literally and metaphorically.

      But people seem to be focusing on just that, which is pretty much just victim blaming.

      No, suing Tor because "people use tor for porn" is victim blaming. This is pure mocking of stupidity and lack of common sense.

      It is the same crap people pull on rape victims all the time, finding some way to socially punish them for trying to bring consequences for their attacker's actions.

      You know, as a close relative of a victim of violent sexual assault, I take offense to your supposition that what my family member went through is exactly the same as what this woman is doing to herself. Don't bandy about the term "rape" for everything you disagree with, as it desensitizes people from the severity of that particular crime.

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    5. Re:Pretty sure this won't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point is she's not trying to bring consequence for her attacker's actions, you colossal moron, she's lashing out at tangentially related parties. We're not "giving a free pass" to the revenge porn scum - that guy simply doesn't even enter the current discussion, which is about her suing Tor.

      It's like suing Ford Motors because a drunk on a Prius hit you (and when people say "are you dumb?", a white knight jumps in to cry "But why are you giving drunk drivers a free pass?!?!?!")

    6. Re:Pretty sure this won't work by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know, as a close relative of a victim of violent sexual assault, I take offense to your supposition that what my family member went through is exactly the same as what this woman is doing to herself. Don't bandy about the term "rape" for everything you disagree with, as it desensitizes people from the severity of that particular crime.

      All the internets sir. You win them.

  3. Gun Argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So if they go after Tor for a service someone else provided using Tor, isn't that like going after gun manufacturers for the murders their products help commit? Not trying to start a flame war or anything but this seems kinda close to that notion to me. I'd have a really good laugh if Texas set some legal standard for going after gun manufacturers in the US with this.

  4. Why yes, we should blame the victim here by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't want your nudes to end up in public? Don't take nudes that you wouldn't want the public to see. Then you can be a true victim. The whole concept of "revenge porn," insofar as it applies to nudes and porn freely made and disseminated, is ever so much "I want my freedom.... but I don't want my choices to have consequences of which I don't approve."

    We have a term for that behavior. It's called behaving like a child.

    1. Re:Why yes, we should blame the victim here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously? Under what logic is it okay to publicly disseminate, often for the express purpose of humiliation, someone else's private photographs whether obtained illegally, surreptitiously, or shared in confidence with you?

      She's not being a child. She's taking a stand against someone else's repugnant behavior.

    2. Re:Why yes, we should blame the victim here by compro01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      She's taking a stand against someone else's repugnant behavior.

      By suing what appears to be everyone except that someone else?

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  5. except that it didnt. by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tor isnt a service, its a technology and accompanying data protocol. There is no corporate entity or backer that "crontrols" the network or if there were, the federal government would have beaten this attorney to the punch long ago. Its like trying to sue LUKS deveopers for a hard drive that cant be read by the NSA.

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  6. Re:Insert obligatory Streisand Effect joke here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Probably as many times as dweebs like to say "Streisand Effect" at every opportunity.

  7. Re:Author of Excel to be sued next by jythie · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ah the Streisand effect, the ethical system were mobs can claim it is the person's own fault for daring to take legal action against something they like.

  8. Re:Moral of the story by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ah yes, it is not the boyfriend's fault, he has no control over his actions.

    What is it with people wanting the person who actually did something crapy to not have any consequences? Well, at least when women are the victims and something like sex is involved.

  9. She's taking a stand for her own irresponsibility by MikeRT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously? Under what logic is it okay to publicly disseminate, often for the express purpose of humiliation, someone else's private photographs whether obtained illegally, surreptitiously, or shared in confidence with you?

    You're missing the point. It's not ok, but it is a highly foreseeable consequence of taking nude photographs, much less disseminating them. You'd have to live under a rock and have a Pollyannaish view of human relations in 2014 to have no idea that this is a common consequence. Most often now, it probably happens because someone believes they are special and they won't fall victim to what so many others in their demographic have suffered. In that sense, it is precisely the sort of behavior one expects of a child because children and adolescents are almost completely incapable of believing "you're not special and it could damn well happen to you too."

  10. Re: Redneck roadhouse by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm SUING the manufacturers of BOX CUTTERS for the complicit CONSPIRACY they participated in on 9/11/2001!

    -- Mayor 9u11iani.

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  11. Re: Redneck roadhouse by painandgreed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Southerners do, dumbass.

    Actually, we usually say "damn Yankee".