Mars (One) Needs Payloads
mbone (558574) writes Mars One has announced that their first, unmanned, lander, targeted for 2018, needs payloads. Along with their 4 experiments, and a University experiment, they have two payloads for hire: "Mars One offers two payload opportunities for paying mission contributors. Proposals can take the form of scientific experiments, technology demonstrations, marketing and publicity campaigns, or any other suggested payload. 'Previously, the only payloads that have landed on Mars are those which NASA has selected,' said Bas Lansdorp, 'We want to open up the opportunity to the entire world to participate in our mission to Mars by sending a certain payload to the surface of Mars.'" The formal Request for Proposals for all of this is out now as well.
If there's one thing Mars doesn't have enough of, it's Legos.
Lichens, moss, fertilizer and a dispersal mechanism.
'We want to open up the opportunity to the entire world to participate in our mission to Mars by sending a certain payload to the surface of Mars.'"
Justin Bieber? Miley Cyrus?
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
please
-- I have monkeys in my pants.
Seeing is believing.
Robots and drones adapted for mars, with a wide variety of powerful electronic instruments.
I don't know, random stuff from youtube could also help to find ideas.
I would really like to land a couple of microphones on Mars.
Some high bandwidth (beyond human hearing) stuff, and some human hearing range stuff. I'd love to know what Mars sounds like.
Starbucks.
Me.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
Why we are still reading about this hoax? cmon!
If I had the money to buy the mission, I'd send a carved rock to be deployed that would indicate that either John Carter or I owned Mars, and that we would have to sword fight for ownership.
My guess is that John Carter never made it to Mars, but if he did and and If I had to I could arrange a meeting place and nuke the entire site from orbit. Itâ(TM)s the only way to be sure. Cause I suck at sword fighting.
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
Scanning through the Mars One "About Us" page, I see a bunch of people with MAs and blather about their "boldness" and "entrepreneurial spirit". They even list their concept artist and marketing team. Where are the PhDs in aerospace engineering and physics?
if MarsOne was in any way legit, nations and orgs would be lining up to get these payloads...Russia, China, ESA, NASA, MIT, UCLA, India, not to mention private companies including mining companies
i'd put a rover up to test preselected areas...
-OR-
have a rover -AND- a craft that detaches in orbit or before that goes an explores a pre-select asteroid
i saw someone suggest "Lego Mindstorms" above...that's where this is at...really...it'll be like a Raspberry Pi thing they select
Thank you Dave Raggett
Let's send up chimps like we used to.
Table-ized A.I.
it's already on Uranus
Table-ized A.I.
Actually, the payload of jizz has been proposed by Vonnegut in "The Big Space Fuck" http://www.pierretristam.com/Bobst/07/wf041307.htm
The kinds of payloads I would like to see delivered to mars are exactly the kind that the international planetary society would come out of their skins over.
Waterbears, antarctic algea, and things of that nature.
Those are lifeforms that could concievably survive indefinatly on mars. (waterbears can live, totally exposed, in the vacuum of space.-- Antarctic algeal forms are able to live in extremely saline conditions just within the first few millimeters of moist rocks, in blisteringly cold temperatures, and engage in active photosynthesis. Together, it is concievable for a highly simplistic, but stable biosphere to be cultivated/initiated on mars.)
http://antarcticfacts.weebly.c...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...
In terms of scientific aparatus-- I would be interested in seeing how stationary wind turbines fare on the red planet. There is no surface vegitation of any kind to restrict or stop basically constant howling winds there, however the low atmospheric pressure may mean that while the wind is blowing with gusto, it packs little "punch". As far as I know, there is little data on the total energy yeild of wind energy on mars-- For a colony, wind energy would present a very attractive option over solar, which would be significantly less total energy per cubic meter than what is attainable on earth, especially when one considers the inefficiency of solar to begin with. Data on how much energy is reasonably able to be extracted, so that ideally sized generation systems can be designed, and data on rates of wind blown particle erosion on those devices would be of considerable value.
Perfect opportunity. He would've loved the idea.
Why do news sites keep posting these scammers press releases?! This project is such stupid, pandering bullshit.
The Mars One web site is awfully sketchy about the details. If I had a multi million dollar payload, I'd like to see some more details of the design, especially if they're promising to take heavy payloads to the surface.
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj426/skepticenc/mars.jpg
When are people going to stop paying attention to these clowns? How are they going to launch in 4 years without having working prototypes right now, nor a lot of money? Or are they going to sell 100M mugs in the coming months?
1) Make a reality TV show: Vote Them Off The Planet
2) Vote people off the planet with one way and return categories. whether for real or not doesn't matter, but if for real you can have the option for people to only do the one way when they want to pay for the return leg.
3) Profit!
1) politicians, stack like cordwood until full
if any room remains
2) Faith Hill and Tim McGraw
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jul/17/elon-musk-mission-mars-spacex
http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/the-biggest-flaw-in-mars-ones-business-model-130425.htm
My money is on Musk...but I'm also bummed that all the /. commenters seem to be a bunch of old fogeys who have forgotten how to dream.
A Mars landing will cost hundreds of millions, even if these experiment payloads are small. How exactly are they gonna come up with that kind of money? Skimming through TFA didn't reveal any details.
Is this like, put out a bunch of press releases to get publicity, then hope Paul Allen or some other billionaire will fund it? Because the kind of budget they will need is a wee bit out of Kickstarter territory.
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Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator
I am the unwilling control for my Origin.
Send a banner with "Yankees go home!"
I want to send a picture of Earth...with the words..."Suckers!".
Lets start with Congress, they don't seem to be doing anything useful on this planet..
Great, now we're going to start spreading our rampant advertising infection to other planets. Is there anywhere advertising can't go?
"Molest me not with this pocket calculator stuff."
- Deep Thought
I'm somewhat pleasantly surprised at the number of posts suggesting that we send living things to Mars, but also concerned that no one is suggesting some caution. Those who know a little about the history of bacterial discovery should know that it is fiendishly difficult to test for the presence of life, even here on Earth with organisms we are rather familiar with. Some bacteria we only know about because they showed up on DNA fishing expeditions, even though they've been under our feet the whole time. There could be bacteria under our feet we don't know about, if it either wasn't DNA/RNA based, or if it had sufficiently aggressive DNA/RNA hydrolysis enzymes, or had a sufficiently small geographic distribution.
As I understand it, we're still at the point that if Mars can sustain life we can't ascertain whether it has any. (And if it can't sustain life, there's no point in sending some to die.) Even if there's no life on Mars, there's still the fact that we don't know much about what an abiotic planet looks like. Studying a properly dead planet will help us in our future search for life.
Furthermore, I'm not certain we want to send photosynthetic organisms there for terraforming purposes, given that we need to increase greenhouse gasses like CO2 there to warm the place. (Also, we don't think the surface is survivable, and the sub-surface has less light -- so if we want surviving life, we should send chemotrophs).
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
You mean the want to let the Martians know we come in peace and not to destroy them?
I think you can fit at least two more commas in there.
Yo dawg, I heard you like the Ackermann function, so OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD
The JPL team already drew a giant dong up there. If you're going to pay for a payload, putting a giant wang on another planet has to be at the top of the list.
Not in partial G in LEO they haven't.
Did you even remember what you wrote? The second "experiment" had to do with wind, not regolith.
We use wave tanks to test things about waves that are very inconvenient or impossible to test at full scale. (Neither of these things have anything to do with your proposed experiments.) And yes, we still do tests in ocean for experimental craft, but they almost never have to do with the bits that can be tested in a wave tank because there's a bunch of bits that can't be tested in a wave tank. (And again, this has nothing to do with either of your proposed "experiments".)
Here's a hint for you: You're a clueless moron who think that using big words means you're intelligent. You're wrong on that count - all it does is prove you're a parrot that can repeat things it has no capability of understanding.
Mars Needs Guitars!
The two Payloads are going to end up being a FOX News banner and a neon Coca Cola Sign