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NSA Says Snowden Emails Exempt From Public Disclosure

AHuxley (892839) writes "The Desk reports on a FOIA request covering "... all e-mails sent by Edward Snowden" and the NSA's refusal to release all documents. "The National Security Agency has acknowledged it retains a record of e-mail communications from former contractor turned whistleblower Edward Snowden, but says those records are exempt from public disclosure under the federal Freedom of Information Act. In a letter responding to a June 27 FOIA request from The Desk, the NSA’s chief FOIA officer Pamela Phillips wrote that while the agency has retained records related to Snowden’s employment as a contractor, they are being withheld from public examination because, among other things, releasing the records 'could interfere with law enforcement proceedings, could cause an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, could reveal the identities of confidential sources or would reveal law enforcement techniques and procedures.' Other records are being withheld because those documents were 'also found to be currently and properly classifiedand remains classified TOP SECRET, SECRET and CONFIDENTIAL.' The letter marks the first time the NSA has publicly acknowledged retaining communication and employment records related to Snowden’s time as a contractor."

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  1. "unwarranted invasion of personal privacy" by jeIIomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And yet they don't seem to have any problem violating the fundamental rights of nearly everyone in and outside the US.

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    1. Re:"unwarranted invasion of personal privacy" by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Any excuse will serve a tyrant." -Aesop.

  2. Snowden / Binney 2016 by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Snowden / Binney 2016!

    That image is my original artwork (with friendly tips from Slashdot user Indigo), copyright 2014 Robert Bushman, licensed under CC by-nc-sa. It is properly sized for a 2.75" by 5" sticker with .125" bleed at 300 dpi. I'm getting them printed at psprint.com (I recommend doing a search for "vinyl bumper stickers", since they often have a coupon running on Duck Duck Go). I haven't seen my physical proofs yet, but the on-screen color conversion looked good to me. Please feel free to print a stack and spread them far and wide.

    1. Re:Snowden / Binney 2016 by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Informative

      who is binney

      But, maybe my previous response was too snarky...

      Sometimes people say, of Snowden, "He should have gone through official channels."

      In 2001, William Binney did exactly that. Ever since then, Binney had been harrassed and prosecuted by the government, and marginalized and ignored by the media -- until Snowden embarrassed the major media with the help of Glenn Greenwald and The Guardian. Binney (and Drake before him) is why Snowden was right not to go through official channels; that method had been tested and found to fail.

  3. The Existence of a "United States of America" by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No longer inhabits the constitutional legal framework of its purpose or foundation.

    It is an illegal institution, with no basis for either loyalty or obedience.

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    Never been known to fail..."
    1. Re:The Existence of a "United States of America" by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are there any Indians left you could mooch from during these two winters?

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    2. Re:The Existence of a "United States of America" by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who said anything about "revolution"? That just brings you trouble, and causes more harm to innocents.

      Just don't lay any special claim by "citizenship" - that is a parlour trick to keep you in harness, to keep you a "house negro".

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    3. Re:The Existence of a "United States of America" by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are a citizen who cares more about your children's survival than the survival of Freedom and the well being of millions. In other words you aren't merely part of the problem, you are the problem.

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    4. Re:The Existence of a "United States of America" by jeIIomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Delusional? The NSA is violating people's rights and the highest law of the land, and it's happening right this instant. Are you saying that it is not happening? If not, then how is he delusional? If you allow it to happen, and they continue doing it, then you don't really have those freedoms, now do you?

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    5. Re:The Existence of a "United States of America" by philip.paradis · · Score: 5, Interesting

      To clarify my last response, I once wore a uniform for this nation and swore an oath uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I have no interest in staying in a nation full of people who are completely ignorant of their rights and obligations as citizens, a nation where the majority of the population is far too apathetic to care about those rights being trampled. I'll be here as long as it takes to build a solid foundation elsewhere, which is a work in progress, and I'm gone after that. I'm a fairly smart guy, and I have fairly diverse skills that I can utilize anywhere on the planet to provide for my loved ones. There are still a few places left where people care about individualism and rights. Not many, but a few.

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    6. Re:The Existence of a "United States of America" by philip.paradis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A federal judge has ruled the mass (meta)data collection activities of the NSA to be unconstitutional. The RNC has pushed for legislation to explicitly declare it so. The more disturbing point here is that the Constitution, which explicitly defines limits to the powers of government, existed long before the NSA. It has simply been ignored, and entirely too many people seem to be ignorant of this fact or simply don't care. Given the protections afforded in the Constitution, I challenge you to justify the legality of massive collection of private information on United States citizens by government agents without warrant or due process.

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  4. Snowden's Patriotism is Gaining Acceptance by Collective+0-0009 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At this point, there are numerous things happening such as laws, inquiries, public debate, and policy changes that are all due to Snowden's release of information. I feel that he has brought to the forefront an important issue and revealed things that the public needed to know. I can understand to some degree that people don't like how he did it, but given the machine that is the government, I don't doubt that this was the only way to bring about such changes (or at least debate and knowledge).

    After a bit of a cool down period, I don't hear nearly as much hate for Snowden. Libertarians, Republicans, Democrats and all other flavors should want a more open government. The government does also need to keep some things secret. This gives them a reason, the means, and a public grant of power to keep things from public knowledge. Some times the only way to circumvent that power is through a leak/whistle blower.

    As far as this story, the public needs to pressure the government to keep no more secrets about Snowden. The cover of endangering certain sources or resources is no longer being accepted as we have seen little damage and much good from the release. It's time the US Government come clean and it's time we tell them that we demand it.

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    1. Re:Snowden's Patriotism is Gaining Acceptance by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It has been my observation that the people who have blistering hatred for Snowden, are the kinds of people who totally embrace jingoism.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J...

      They see any kind of "restriction" on government's ability to secure "advantage" and "interest" as allowing "The terrorists to win" (or whatever is the current buzz phrase), As such, they view actions like snowden's as being completely un-american, because he undermined the interests of an american intelligence agency, who was collecting abhorrent amounts of information about everyone and everything--presumably to secure american interests, over foriegn interests. These are the same kinds of people that would support creation of a literal planet-killing super weapon, just to secure american military dominance, and would think nothing of it.

      People that chug the jingo-laid come in all colors, all races, all creeds, and all genders: Liberal, Libertarian, Fiscal conservative, raging pinko, and gun toting whacko alike. The unifying feature is that they have bought into the "America is NUMBER ONE!!!!eleveltyone!" mantra.

      Seeing that supporting "American interests" without question or hesitation is leading to somethig that is not the america they were promised, with real proof, and real scnadals, with real consequences (FOR THEM), is about the only way to get through to them, short of having them experience the stazi first hand, up close and brutal.

      The bullshit needs to stop, and an anti-jingoism movement needs to sweep this country.

  5. Ask Snowden! by jargonburn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps they should try and contact Edward Snowden and see if he has copies of those email messages that'd he'd care to release.

  6. Re:Snowden's copies? by jopsen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, this smells like NSA trying to hide that Snowden did in fact try to bring up the issue through official channels, before he leaked documents to the public.

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  8. Re:Misuse of FOIA by ddt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Second off, this story (and the multitude of Greenwald/Snowden cult of personality reposters) is missing the most important thing in the NSA's response, the last sentence:

    “For your information, there are no emails indicating that Mr. Snowden contacted agency officials to raise concerns about NSA programs.”

    You'd have a great point if there were any reason we could trust the NSA. They could be lying outright, or they could be doing it the DC way, which is telling the truth in a misleading way, by overlooking the fact that he approached them in person about it instead of in written form, which I certainly would have, as I'd be nervous as shit about writing an email like that.

    He's no patriot, he's just a cowardly little shit.

    He gave up his girlfriend and cushy job, he exposed clear evidence of violation of international treaties and the US Constitution by the world's dominant superpower, and then he endured being stuck in the Moscow Airport (there isn't enough Prozac in the world to make this OK) and is now stuck in Russia, which I assure you, is a severe downgrade from Hawaii. There's nothing cowardly about all that.

  9. Re:Misuse of FOIA by James+McGuigan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Edward Snowdon understood what would happen if he where to seriously try and push the issue internally.

    The global surveillance network was a core NSA policy authorized at the highest levels. This was not simply some rouge agent or rouge department. Previous individuals have attempted to raise concerns internally and failed to achieve any change underlying policy. The NSA has even deliberately lied to congress on the matter.

    As a contractor, he has no employment rights. Making noise would likely get his security clearance revoked and his employer finding someone else who doesn't have a moral problem with surveillance. It would also likely get himself added to the NSA watchlist.

    As a pragmatist, his decision to publicly release records has successfully created enough political pressure for congress to at least review the NSA's policies. A cowardly little shit who was willing to risk everything on a high risk venture, with a very strong possibility of getting caught, that takes some major balls from someone who knows exactly what the NSA is capable of.

  10. "could interfere with law enforcement" by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like ... how? Tip off Snowden that he's wanted?

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  11. Re:Snowden's copies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Snowden said he wrote emails that he can't produce despite taking almost two million documents. You can't explain that away since you are directly challenging him.

    Except the NSA just released one of Snowden's emails questioning the legality of things one or two months ago. They then claimed that was the "only" email they had from him. Now they are saying they have lots but can't release them for some reason. So, the NSA has been caught lying to you yet again and you continue to look the other way. When are you going to pull your head out of your ass?

  12. The NSA cites protection of personal privacy by SiliconSeraph · · Score: 4, Funny

    This may be the most ironic thing I've seen in a while.