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SpaceX Executive Calls For $22-25 Billion NASA Budget

MarkWhittington (1084047) writes "While participating in a panel called "The US Space Enterprise Partnership" at the NewSpace Conference that was held by the Space Frontier Foundation on Saturday, SpaceX Chief Operating Officer Gwynne Shotwell opined that NASA's budget should be raised to $22-25 billion, according to a tweet by Space Policy Online's Marcia Smith. The theory is that a lot of political rancor has taken place in the aerospace community because of the space agency's limited budget. If the budget were to be increased to pay for everything on the space wish list, the rancor will cease.

The statement represents something of a departure of the usual mutual antagonism that exists between some in the commercial space community and some at NASA. Indeed Space Politics' Jeff Foust added a tweet, "Thought: a panel at a Space Frontier Foundation conf is talking about how to increase NASA budget. Imagine that in late 90s." The Space Frontier Foundation has been a leading voice for commercializing space, sometimes at the expense of NASA programs."

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  1. everyone knows by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    everyone knows that NASA is the red headed step child of the government. they are the face of the government that kids love, and encourages science and technology research, there is no better government agency that I can think of that has more good will with the kids

    but for some reason, they dont get funded, everyone acts as if NASA wastes money left and right and they get nothing done. I blame congress and the president for always interjecting. They are politicians, not scientists. We should give nasa a blank check and let them do their thing.

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  2. Re:Why stop there? by ganjadude · · Score: 4

    with ALL the other stuff our government funds, we should be able to kill some other programs to keep NASA alive. We should not be in this situation where we are dependent on russia to bring our men and women to space and back home.

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  3. Re:don't have money to waste by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It should be noted that deficits for Obama's years in office amount to $4T to $6T. And those had nothing to do with our wars.

    It should also be noted that unless we're counting Vietnam, Korea, and WW2, we haven't had $4T to $6T in war costs. Military budgets were higher as a result of Iraq and Afghanistan, but you'd have to count the entire military budget as "war costs" to reach even $4T, much less $6T.

    It should also be noted that we're making absolutely no attempt to "pay down" our debts. The National Debt goes up every year, by rather more than $500B (rather more than $1T during most of Obama's terms).

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  4. Re:What is the business case of SpaceX? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    SpaceX has scheduled eleven launches over the next several years with the US Government as the customer (ISS resupply missions).

    In addition, it has 17 launches scheduled for other customers (private satellite launches).

    So, no, SpaceX doesn't have to do space tourism, nor do asteroid mining, nor make all their money being a government contractor. What they are is a LAUNCH company. They don't do payloads, they just put other people's payloads into orbit for them cheaply.

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  5. Well, hold on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's Heritage's numbers.

    Federal entitlements are driving this spending growth, having increased from less than half of total federal outlays just 20 years ago to nearly 62 percent in 2012. Three major programs—Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security—dominate in size and growth, soaking up about 44 percent of the budget.

    BUT interest on the current debt is also increasing the debt and along with entitlements, it is crowding out other spending.

    The thing with entitlements though, is that most of that spending is on old people and is increasing due to our changing demographics.

    But we also need to keep in mind that Medicare was expanded greatly under Bush in 2003, greatly increasing the costs. So lets not put all the blame on Obama.

    We should also realize that the old people have considerable political clout - hence why you NEVER hear ANYTHING about Medicare or Social Security when the Tea Partiers are demanding budget cuts. That is why you can keep going back and every President of both parties has tapped into taxpayer money to buy the old people's vote.

    Poor people on the other hand, have virtually no political clout and are looked upon as lacking moral fiber and deserve to have their programs cut. And why the attacks are continuing on "Obamacare". As a side note, my wife's clinic has actually started doing MORE business (and actually getting paid) because of Obamacare. See, when a medical provider doesnt get paid, they just pass the costs on to the rest of us in the form of higher fees. But that another post .....

    Never the less, I see many many criticisms about government spending and vague references to entitlement programs and no mention of the true burdens on our government.

    OH! War spending. Here is an interesting article about that and to make it short: nobody knows how much or how it is afftecing the economy.

  6. What to cut by scotts13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Give NASA the $14 billion spent in fiscal 2013 training foreign armies and providing them with weapons. That'll make up the difference nicely. Not enough? Move on to the $24 billion spent on the "National Drug Control Strategy." Two things we don't need more of are dead bodies and prison inmates.

  7. Re:Enabling wasteful spending on SLS? by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why even waste time developing this when we can use SpaceX, the Deltas, Atlas and so on, perhaps human rated versions of these.

    Because the Senator from Alabama wants to keep the NASA center in Huntsville busy.

  8. Re:When I was born... by jklovanc · · Score: 4, Informative

    yet we refuse to spend more on space industry than we do on our aircraft carrier program (old Nimitz class cost about 4.5 billion - and we have 11 of them).

    The Nimitz program produced ten carriers between 1968 and 2006. That is 38 years for a yearly budget of $1.8B. That is approximately 10% of the NASA budget. There are now also 10 large carriers in service. Comparing a long project with a single year budget is inaccurate.