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Google+ Photos To Be Separated From Google+
An anonymous reader writes "Speculation on the eventual shuttering of Google+ has once more risen with news that Google+ Photos will soon be developed and run separately from the social media site. This news follows observations that Google+ "was barely mentioned at Google I/O 2014, while there were 15 sessions dedicated to the service in 2013" and that the company has ended its controversial real name policy. Google Hangouts was also separated from Google+ at the end of July." I've actually heard several people praising Google+ lately; scaling it back to "just a social stream" probably fits into some kind of corollary to Murphy's Law.
First there were Picasa Web Albums. Last year my albums got moved to my Google+ account. Now there is a new branding coming along.. My albums will be moved to another service once again..
Until they come clean on what they're mining from your activities, I'd stay away from it.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
The only thing google plus is used for by me is games on android. I prefer it than having 1000 logins, nor using facebook for game logins. I havent found a real use for it other than that
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Sigh.
De-plus youtube while you're at it... Fuck that noise.
Buck Feta. You know what to do.
You brush your teeth in the morning to sell yourself to your personal audiences over the people that DON'T brush their teeth in the morning.
I brush my teeth to prevent cavities and help clear up bad breath.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I wasn't aware google+ uses film.
... "seperate"
Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
"clear up bad breath" = "sell yourself to your personal audiences"
No, "clear up bad breath" = "I have a bad taste in my mouth, and I don't like the smell of my breath, so I'm going to try to remove it." Seriously, how can you be that dense? Not everyone is an attention whore; I'm an extreme introvert.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Although I like some things Google does and especially Chrome. I do not have a Google account anymore. I gave up when Google started to force everyone even if all they wanted was a basic account to sync bookmarks and history in Chrome. To signing you up for Google +. Even my Chromebook has become nothing more then a browser in Guest mode because I did not want to have to sign in to Google which no doubt sends everything I do to a Google server somewhere. I want more choice on what to do with my documents, pictures, and files then to just upload everything to Google. OK, I am done ranting now and feel better.
Good lord people. They use your information to display ads. Just like almost every other social network in existence. Clearly this isn't a sticking point for most people or Facebook would be a ghost town.
Problem for you? Fine don't use it, but it's not like it's a secret. For most people it's worth the conveniences Google provides to have their data mined. I know it is for me.
10 minutes working on a sig. What a waste.
What's with companies like Google, Mozilla and Microsoft continuing to work on projects that are obvious failures, even this is obvious before they've even been released?
Windows 8 is perhaps the best example of this. Everybody who was exposed to it before its final release hated it. When there's that much dislike from the early adopters, it will be absolutely hated by everyone else. That's guaranteed! And what did we see eventually happen with Windows 8? Well, as predicted, everybody who had to use it hated it, and it became Microsoft's worst failure to date.
Google+ is another great example of this happening. In its early days, everybody who was subjected to it hated it. The earliest users predicted it would be disaster, and it was. The fact that it would fail was obvious to everyone at the time, but for whatever reason Google still made the stupid decision to go forward with the guaranteed failure. The near-useless Chromebooks and ChromeOS is another example of an obvious failure that's pushed through anyway.
And then there's Mozilla. Users are leaving Firefox like there's no tomorrow because Mozilla proposes shitty UI changes, everybody points out how stupid these changes are, Mozilla makes them anyway, users are not happy, and some of the users move on to Chrome. On top of this, Mozilla then creates something totally useless like Firefox OS, cripples it by making JavaScript the only usable programming language with it, then pretends they're targeting third-worlders when it and the shitty phones it runs on are called out for being the shit that they are. And like everybody who wasn't stupid pointed out way back when Mozilla started working on Firefox OS, nobody wants it, and nobody will use it!
Why the fuck do these large and formerly successful companies, which have provided useful products in the past, keep making these blatantly stupid mistakes these days? They didn't do it before. When faced with a product that was going to be an obvious failure, they canned it right away!
You'll have g00gle praisers and NOT
I tried silver bullets, garlic, holy water, blessings, etc and Google+ still wouldn't die. I wonder what finally killed it. Maybe a knight in shining armor, accompanied by the court wizard, went on a quest to destroy Google+ and he's finally at the final boss.
Everyone hates it? Complete immunity! The FTC, protests, petitions, foreign government lawsuits, HA! Laughable. WHAT? IT'S NOT MAKING ANY MONEY? *dies*
I've heard that if you stop brushing your teeth for awhile, you don't notice it anymore. Just sayin'.
You'll eventually notice the cavities, though. Especially with as much sugar as I eat.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
One of the big problems that EU countries have with Google is the inter-linking of the services it offers, which is a strong intrusion on privacy in European eyes. Americans seem not to care about that, but all EU countries have Data Protection Authorities and applicable laws about that kind of thing, so Google has been getting a lot of heat over it. Indeed, Google's banner line of "One account. All of Google." reads like a threat over here.
So, it's possible that Google has realized that its previous business plan just isn't going to work in Europe, and may be dismantling some of the interconnections between services. They probably don't care too much about the EU fines, but the bad PR every time a fine or an investigation is announced does them no good, and might well spread EU discontent beyond the European countries.
Google needed to sort out users versus user accounts. They had to distiguish all of the duplicate human beings, as separate from their various accounts. The high value data is gmail storage, google docs, and especially picasa web albums. Google sites hosted my web site experiments, and docs and forms, cloud stored my binaries, and voice relayed to my phone numbers, wallet, etc etc. The process of attempting to force feed Google+ to me, though futile, still accomplished their primary objective: It functioned to consolidate my multiple user ids and to figure out what I claim is the meaningful data.
While Google+ is a marketing fail, it was a database validation success, while also changing the overall TOS. This process unified various random accounts to identify the actual user. It combined the data of browsing habits, purchases, phone numbers, handles, ips, mac addresses, adress books, etc. They were all mined and combined to fully implicate individuals accessing anything Google. The fact is, that until all of this Google+ bullshit, I had quietly tucked away thousands of photographs which filled several accounts to the brink. The process of contending with the change forced me to access everything which eliminated the redundancy of me as multiple users. Now Google can be sure its all one of me, which they knew all along, but this just confirms my usage profile and actual breathing existence. I'm not worth as much money to advertisers if I am a redundant user already counted and sold. Just one of me is their assurance to clients so there's no double dipping on real head count. I feel so special, like social currency of unique importance to statistical metrics....
Whether you work for yourself or a company you dress a specific way.
I don't care about the clothes I wear. I go to job interviews dressed in what are essentially rags simply to eliminate employers who are worthless and superficial. Other than that, I just dress in random comfortable clothes (not suits or anything formal, since I don't find them comfortable).
Slobs don't make money.
I seem to be making quite a bit of money, so your absolutist statement is incorrect. It's all about finding the right place to work in. I choose not to surround myself with worthless people who only care about the superficial.
But it's probably true more often than not. But what does that mean, other than that our species is mentally diseased?
If you brush your teeth to remove bad breath, you are a] doing it wrong.
Nope. It does actually help.
the true purpose is to keep your teeth white.
You don't get to decide what my true purpose is; I do. Society can go fuck itself, because my teeth aren't even straight.
Everyone is an attention whore.
Speak for yourself.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You are being deliberately obtuse because you don't like that fact that the statement is obviously correct.
In your heart, you know that you're 100% incorrect. You're being deliberately obtuse.
You seem like a creationist.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I, and many others, tend to use G+ as an adjunct to LinkedIn for various things related to work and some non-work professional interests. Maybe this is like Facebook for grownups. So I hope three things - they keep it, they don't try to turn it into another Facebook, and LinkedIn resists the temptation to 'go social' any more than it already has. IMHO LinkedIn is less useful now than it was before they made recommendations so trivial and started adding gratuitous stuff that is intended to just drive linkage and views up.
I used to use Picasa regularly and then Google rolled it into Google+ and then I stopped using both Picasa and Google+. The real name policy was the clincher and I haven't been back to either since (I don't care that Google changed their real name policy, I can't trust Google to not change their mind again.)
To see that Google is now thinking of moving what was Picasa into Google+ Photos still won't bring me back to Picasa - I'm now on flickr.
I now very deliberately use different web services from different companies. gmail is the best email product. facebook is still the best social network. flickr is the best photo sharing website. Of these only facebook gets my real name. None get my mobile phone #. None get my address or where I went to school, etc.
With all of these moves by Google, are the desperate to find a strategy that works?
One thing that's for sure - if I were looking for stability in a web service then I wouldn't use anything from Google as they're too likely to bin it.
I am nonplussed and yet, not nonplussed. Figure that out ;)
It finally became usable by not insisting that my real name be available to anyone and everyone who wants to look at my social circle forever with but a google.
The alias thing, instead of the fucking idiotic zuckerberg whatever, has been huge- I've started using G+ and actually like it. Hopefully they don't kill it, but who knows.
Considering Google killed off Orkut at the end of last month, and still haven't killed blogspot/blogger i suspect Google+ will hang around for a while longer.
It's a lot more integrated into their other services than Orkut and blogger ever were as well.
I suspect Google+ will morph into a "Value added" social backend for some of their products, youtube, hangouts, gmail all have Google+ hooks. They are starting to use Google+ to rank your searches, I see my friends posts in my search results often now. They could use this to add personalization to Google Now.
In a couple of years Google+ may be closer to Discus's "embed everyone" model than Facebook's silo. They might end up using Google+ to integrate the data across their products, which were (and still are) siloed until recently and just remove the Google+ homepage.
Jesus, fuck. You are a seriously pedantic, trolling douche.
congratulations, your request for attention has been fulfilled.
Jesus, fuck. You are a seriously pedantic, trolling douche.
I don't see where I was being pedantic. I was simply countering his arguments that I believed to be wrong.
congratulations, your request for attention has been fulfilled.
As has yours, it seems.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
My friends don't hang out on Google+ and I sure as hell don't post to the site... But it's a nice social stream to get info about my hobbies and people I follow. Heck of a lot better than FB. Not sure where I'll go if G+ shutters down.
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
There's now 2; 1 for G+ and 1 for Piscasa and they don't play well together especially for Mobile. Instant Upload and AutoBackup create 2 different directories and Instant Upload isn't viewable from Android even when you use it in Android. The UI is different for Picasa and G+ even though they're supposed to be the same thing. They have different features. So is this going to be a THIRD way? Because that will suck and it will be time to move everything somewhere else.
On the upside, not needing an 80MB G+ client in Android just to use pictures will be nice.
The first post I made in Google+ is this:
# go away
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
google+ makes me avoid the rest of google, might actually go back to youtube if this is true.
>You brush your teeth in the morning to sell yourself to your personal audiences over the people that DON'T brush their teeth in the morning.
I brush my teeth not only for the reasons jellomizer states, but also because I don't want to offend others. You can suggest I'm selling myself to them, but I'm actually just not wanting negative attention. There is a difference, and it's not slight.
McDonald's doesn't advertise to prevent negative attention towards their brand. They advertise to attract positive attention. That's what we call "selling" yourself. Trying to attract positive attention. In fact, I can't think of much advertising at all dedicated towards simply trying to get people to stop thinking about your brand entirely.
It's been, oh, almost 7 years since I had to sell myself (job interview), as I still retain that high paying position. As the interview is done, it's back to the real me: Don't offend co-workers, because if they're offended, my life gets more complex for no useful reason. That's also the motivation for completing the boring work the company requires that doesn't appear to impart anything of value. Offending the boss = pain in the ass for me.
>There is nothing wrong about what they do, and we should encourage them to find out your sales weaknesses in order to extract more money from you via the advertising they sell.
Disagree. I don't spend my entire waking life trying to attract positive attention because that would make me a used car salesman, and that comparison alone screams "ineffective".
>After all, you do the same personal sales and marketing for yourself. Everybody does sales and marketing. It's a fundamental life property, not just for humans, but all species.
Speak for yourself, I don't sell myself except when society has deemed it necessary. Society only deems it necessary very rarely, at least in my case. I simply avoid offending others, which I've explained is very different than attempting to impart positive attention.
>It's always amusing when libertarian princesses cry about losing at attention-whoring.
It's far more amusing when someone attributes to a political process a broken idea about selling things.
And that is where you completely lost it. I am surprised you didn't call him a nigger. Oh, I guess, you would have 30 years ago, it wouldn't work do well now, so you use "creationist".
Google, while you're at it, increase the upload limit for videos through the Picasa API. A 100 Mb video limit might have been ok in 2006 but now that means videos longer than 1 minute cannot be uploaded through 3rd party apps.
Are you kidding me? Of COURSE they advertise to detract from negative attention. They advertise to blunt the effects of criticism - "their food is crap, it's garbage, it's bad for you!" - but their ads show smiling, happy people eating their food that looks so delicious and is absolutely covered with crispy greens, fresh onions, giant slabs of tomato, and now you can buy their low-salt low-cal meals with apple slices and a big fresh salad because how could anybody say that's bad for them?!
If you don't think that advertising and marketing are explicitly designed to increase positive attention and deflect, sidestep, or mitigate criticism, you're fucking crazy.
BULLSHIT . You just outlined that you expend effort every day making sure you're not offending your co-workers and pissing off your boss. Why do that? because if you don't, it will change how they view you, and that will lead to hassle and pains in the ass for you. In other words, you are selling yourself to them.
You seem to be confusing "selling yourself" - i.e., expending effort so people have a positive impression of you - and "underdelivering on your promises" - which is what a used car salesman does. The used car salesman tries to get you to think he's your best friend in the world so he can make some money off you and sell you a car that will ultimately not live up to any of the promises he's made. That's different than expending genuine effort motivated by genuine concern that other people around you view you as a friendly, nice guy who does his job well and doesn't cause a hassle.
Brush your tongue too, mouth(wash) doesn't remove the film(yuck) sticking to it. So no, mouthwash for fresh breath is a partial solution. For the win tell your close friends to call you on bad breath, many times you can't smell your own til it's way over the top.
Sorry for the following rant...
My photos should stay entirely offline unless I chose to upload them. My last Android phone had them uploading to Google+ by default, without my explicit approval or agreement. Private online photo storage for backups is something that I sometimes use, along with backing up other files. If there is a photo that I want to share with people I will but having them stolen is not appreciated.
I use my Android phone for personal and business purposes. It is frustrating that the amount of data that leaks has greatly increased in recent years. I do not want my contacts, or the rest of the world, to be able to see my activity. Even though I don't use Google+ and have made everything private on the profile the Google forces on me, I still see information on things like what my contacts think of Play apps and these are people that are not in any circles... Some of my business contacts have strong political and/or religious views that I don't share and they might not approve of all of my apps. Social media should always be opt in and not forced on customers.
Basically, I hate G+ and have not liked a lot of what Google has done to their apps over the last couple of years.
And that is where you completely lost it.
Nope. It's a common tactic among religious idiots to tell other people what they believe, and make statements such as, "If you don't believe in God, you're dead inside!" or "You know in your heart that God exists!" He tried to tell me what I think, so he reminded me of creationists.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I don't know what's pedantic. I do the same thing and know others who do as well.
It might be an east/west coast thing, but I've never worn tie to work, generally dress in t-shirts and jeans and have had a 6 figure job for > 10 years. It's common from my perspective.
the true purpose is to keep your teeth white.
You don't get to decide what my true purpose is; I do. Society can go fuck itself, because my teeth aren't even straight.
Insensitive clod. I don't have teeth (well a few).
Something to do with that period where Google+ thought it could upload my photos without asking. Google+ is just distancing itself from what is now no-doubt the largest repository of kiddy porn on the internet.
It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
I don't care about the clothes I wear. I go to job interviews dressed in what are essentially rags simply to eliminate employers who are worthless and superficial. Other than that, I just dress in random comfortable clothes (not suits or anything formal, since I don't find them comfortable).
I agree with the general premise of not caring much about how you dress as long as your job doesn't force you to interact with customers (then you'd be the face of the company, so they'd understandably want you to be presentable).
But showing up for a job interview in rags doesn't make sense to me. You're eliminating employers who are superficial, but a good employer might eliminate you for reasons which are just as good.
In interviews, first impressions count for a lot, and in your case I'd be worried that if you couldn't be bothered to try and dress appropriately to the interview, you might not have the social development required to interact profitably with the rest of my team.
I don't mind someone showing up in t-shirt and jeans, as long as they're tastefully dressed. But showing up with old, ripped, or dirty clothes (i.e. "rags") is a red herring that you don't understand social norms and will be difficult to deal with.
On the job itself I don't care as long as you don't dress offensively, but in an interview I have to make a split decision, so those things count.
You're eliminating employers who are superficial, but a good employer might eliminate you for reasons which are just as good.
No, they'd eliminate me for superficial reasons.
is a red herring that you don't understand social norms and will be difficult to deal with.
No, it means I reject illogical social norms that encourage superficiality, not that I don't understand them. There is a difference.
Besides, I found a nice workplace, thanks.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Also, "offensive" is subjective.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Google Plus is only incidentally a social network. It was designed to merge and centrally manage the YouTube, Picasa, GMail, et al accounts. It's been quite effective. The stream was an easy add-on goal and an additional selling point for consumers. Circles offer a nice benefit and are being used now not just for the Plus stream but to notify people about one another's activities on the other sites like YouTube.
Wait, so, maintaining basic hygiene so that you can be presentable to other people makes you an "attention whore?"
I would think you'd want to maintain basic hygiene for other reasons. I don't care about being "presentable" (which is subjective), but then again, I don't hang around with superficial drones.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
So, if your intimate partner doesn't like it when your breath smells bad, that makes them a "superficial drone?"
If your co-workers don't like it if you smell like body odor because you haven't showered in days, that makes them "superficial drones?"
So, if your intimate partner doesn't like it when your breath smells bad, that makes them a "superficial drone?"
Not liking a smell is a practical matter. We're speaking of the superficial, here. Pay attention.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
But your insinuation that I don't want bad breath so I can be presentable to others was wrong. I don't want bad breath because I don't like the smell or taste. The end.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Your reactions to comments are wildly hostile. "Dense," "attention whore," "superficial drones" ... what's that all about? Why are you so angry?
I'm actually calm while making such insults.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.