Inside the Facebook Algorithm Most Users Don't Even Know Exists

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Inside the Facebook Algorithm Most Users Don't Even Know Exists

Posted by Unknown on Tuesday August 5, 2014 @04:49AM from the no-one-reads-my-posts dept.

First time accepted submitter catparty (3600549) writes An examination of what we can know about Facebook's new machine learning News Feed algorithm. From the article: "Facebook's current News Feed algorithm might be smarter, but some of its core considerations don't stray too far from the groundwork laid by EdgeRank, though thanks to machine learning, Facebook's current algorithm has a better ear for 'signals from you.' Facebook confirmed to us that the new News Feed ranking algorithm does indeed take 100,000 weighted variables into account to determine what we see. These factors help Facebook display an average 300 posts culled from roughly 1,500 possible posts per day, per user."

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Bubbles by i+kan+reed · 2014-08-05 04:53 · Score: 5, Interesting

Social media helps keep you in a nice little bubble, where you're never exposed to information you might not like.
Psychology tells us we(in general) don't like information that challenges our biases. Is anyone else afraid that Facebook and Google are unintentionally driving us all towards ignorance?
No conspiracy necessary: happy people pay more attention to ads(citation available if anyone cares), they try to make us happy, trying to make us happy keeps us dumb, and it all serves everyone's short term interests, and no ones' long term interests.
1. Re:Bubbles by Lab+Rat+Jason · 2014-08-05 05:07 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  1. It is not possible to exert mind control over an intelligent and reasonable person simply by throttling their social media streams.
  See: Russia, Iran, Syria, China... need I go on?
  
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2. Re:Bubbles by i+kan+reed · 2014-08-05 05:35 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Positive Mood and Susceptibility to False Advertising
  Even though you're more aware of the fact that the advertising is false, you're still more likely to form a positive image of the brand as a result of being happy. I have, without being fully informed about "true" advertising, mentally extrapolated that to apply to all advertisements.
  This idea is at least a little corroborated by this older study which suggests happier moods implies a greater uptake on simple advertising messages.
3. Re:Bubbles by rolfwind · 2014-08-05 06:30 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  Have you seen so-called "World News" with Diane Sawyer lately on one of the big networks?
  It's embarassing. 3/4 human interest stories at least. Mostly domestic. A few minutes of human interest human interest stories.
  Or when you watch the olympics. Very few competitions anymore on the networks. Especially not when foreigners are competing. And we need everyone's tearjerking backstory now.
  It hasn't always been like this. People don't need social media to stay ignorant. Their own mass media does it for them.
4. Re:Bubbles by znrt · 2014-08-05 06:34 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  1. It is not possible to exert mind control over an intelligent and reasonable person simply by throttling their social media streams.
  yeah but it's hivemind control. hivemind oriented individuals are a majority, so hivemind control is actually a reality. and a pretty obvious one if you ask me. now for example you may not be buying this bullshit but it is your hive, and you can't escape: these hivelings may be your relatives, your friends, people you like or love. you screwed, bro. in other words: controlled.
  of course the problem itself points to the way out. let's not despair!
Human vs. crowd by mi · 2014-08-05 04:56 · Score: 3, Interesting

While each of us is as unpredictable as a molecule, once you put enough humans together, the crowd becomes as predictable as gas. Google, Facebook, Twitter, (/.?) and other companies with massive user bases can do some pretty interesting things with their users.
Whether it is ethical or not is another story, but it is certainly interesting.

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Because by heezer7 · 2014-08-05 04:58 · Score: 5, Insightful

just showing shit in chronological order is too easy.
1. Re:Because by Lab+Rat+Jason · 2014-08-05 05:28 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  The trouble here... and the reason I don't use facebook... is that just because I like coke, doesn't mean I "Like" coke. If I want to express my affinity for a product, that doesn't mean I want to be constantly marketed to by that company. Likewise, the sleazy practice of making someone like your product before you can see some kind of content (say a video for example) that has gone viral... but until you watch the video, you aren't sure whether you "Like" (or even like) the product/company... pisses me off.
  Facebook operates under the pretense that it's a good way for you to keep in touch with your friends... but their quarterly financial statements argue for the fact that it is a good way for companies to market to individuals under the pretense of them keeping up with their friends.
  Your description of the myriad ways in which your feed is broken and fails to satisfy you is a proxy for the myriad ways in which Facebook is making money off you.
  
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2. Re:Because by Andy_R · 2014-08-05 05:32 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Exactly, I've found that the only way to get Facebook to work the way it should work â" showing everything posted by people I know and pages I've liked â" is to install the FBPurity browser extension (from fbpurity.com) and to manually select 'receive notifications' from a hidden drop down menu when I 'like' a page.
  The iPhone app just keeps getting worse, it does have the ability to show things in the right order, but it conveniently forgets that setting every time you open the app, and now the app has stopped showing everything after the first few characters when some sends you a message, begging you to install an extra app (but you don't need to, just open facebook.com in the phone's browser and you can read and respond to messages there).
  
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3. Re:Because by _xeno_ · 2014-08-05 05:59 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  There is a chronological order option, but it's hidden in a drop-down by the news feed link in the list on the upper-left portion of the Facebook UI. It also tends to randomly switch back to "Top Stories" mode as well as showing a little link for "back to Top Stories" at the top of the feed.
  As another AC mentioned but I think deserves reiterating: that option merely sorts the Top Stories in chronological order. It does not show you all posts from all your friends. If Facebook has decided you don't want to see a post, you will not be seeing it. If they've decided you want to see fifty copies of various people posting some annoying Facebook quiz result even though you've hit the little "don't show me this" option a thousand times, well, you will be seeing fifty copies of that Facebook quiz. (After all, stupid Facebook quiz makers are important (paying) Facebook partners, and your friends are just more losers to show important (paying) Facebook partner content to.)
  The only difference is that in Most Recent, they'll be in chronological order and not ranked by Facebook's "how much did the content publisher pay us?" algorithm.
  
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4. Re:Because by darkain · 2014-08-05 06:25 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  Something else I've personally noticed, and this is consistent with everyone I've asked about the issue...
  "Top Stories" for desktop viewing vs mobile viewing are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I have to check FB on both my desktop AND my tablet every day just to get an idea of what going on with my social circle. This is just stupid bad. What is even worse is that there is next to zero intersection between these two separate news feeds from the same account. It is as if Facebook decided to split timelines in half, one set for mobile, the other for desktop.
And yet by bananaquackmoo · 2014-08-05 05:07 · Score: 3, Informative

And yet it still sucks at presenting me with any news I'm interested in. I think I've clicked on a news story from that feed only once and by accident. Hint : I don't have any interest in sports, politics, celebrity gossip, pop music, old news, and pretty much anything else they've recommended.
The real News Feed algorithm by DigitAl56K · 2014-08-05 05:15 · Score: 3, Insightful

if (session.timeelapsed() > 1800 || rand() % 3 == 0)
newsfeed.setmode(TOP_STORIES);
Re:I like to dick with FB by Anonymous Coward · 2014-08-05 05:19 · Score: 4, Insightful

Yeah, because they are able to analyze almost everything about your behavior but could never catch on that all your reports are crap? Its also very unlikely that they would even care about your report if you are the only person reporting.
Come on, can you really be that naive? Do you really think that during the design of the report functionality they said to themselves "a few million people will see this and might click on it, so we probably should handle everything manually and not find a way to filter out trolls, this is the internet after all and everybody is always nice here".
If you don't want to help facebook, then you don't join facebook. Simply being on there makes the whole system better for other users. Unless you are there but nobody ever contacts you on it or friends you.
Re:Most Users by Chris+Mattern · 2014-08-05 07:40 · Score: 3, Insightful

...and that's exactly how Facebook likes it.