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T-Mobile Smartphones Outlast Competitors' Identical Models

An anonymous reader writes Laptop Mag battery tested the leading phones on all four major U.S. carriers and found that the same models on T-Mobile typically last 1 to 3 hours longer on a charge. This trend is not new, but has continued for over 3 years of testing. The article says While we don’t know for certain why T-Mobile phones last longer on a charge, there are some strong possibilities. T-Mobile’s network could be more efficient at sending and receiving data because of the bands it uses, or maybe there are far fewer customers on its LTE network, easing the strain. Another possibility is that T-Mobile tends to pre-load less bloatware on its flagship devices relative to the other carriers. AT&T is firmly in second place in the battery life findings presented, with Verizon and Sprint jockeying for last of the four carriers measured. It woud be interesting to see a similar test battery for phones in marginal reception areas; searching for service seems to deplete my battery faster than talking does.

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  1. No towers in range? by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    I thought a phone was using maximum RF power when it was looking for a tower to talk to?

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    1. Re:No towers in range? by tibit · · Score: 4, Informative

      Usually, a terrestrial phone doesn't need to do anything much to "look" for a tower, besides keeping its receiver turned on. Towers emit beacons, and if you don't hear the beacon, there's no point in you sending anything - you won't receive a reply because you don't even hear the tower's beacon.

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    2. Re:No towers in range? by heypete · · Score: 2

      Usually, a terrestrial phone doesn't need to do anything much to "look" for a tower, besides keeping its receiver turned on. Towers emit beacons, and if you don't hear the beacon, there's no point in you sending anything - you won't receive a reply because you don't even hear the tower's beacon.

      Indeed, many (most? all?) phones won't transmit at all unless they hear the tower's beacon, since it's possible they could have been moved to a jurisdiction where it is not allowed for them to transmit on certain frequencies they would otherwise use.

      Of course, keeping the receiver powered to listen for the beacon does use a not-inconsiderable amount of power, so searching for signal will use more power than a phone that is connected to the network and idle.

    3. Re:No towers in range? by chromaexcursion · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When a phone has signal, the back channel includes information about neighboring cells. So, it knows where to look for the next back channel. Only a few frequencies to tune to. The problem starts when contact is lost. Phones use power looking for a signal. Re-tuning the receiver is not free.
      They continuously tune over a series of frequencies looking for one. And keep cycling through them.
      This bitter cycle of finding nothing uses up a phones battery very quickly. Before smart phones it was the single largest power user.
      This is an OLD problem. It was well known in the industry in 1990.

      I started writing software for cell phone companies in 1990. I learned more than I ever wanted to know about how cell phones work. Moved on to a different industry in 2000. Some things don't change. At least not quickly.

    4. Re:No towers in range? by TWX · · Score: 2

      That doesn't jive with my results though. At work, if I'm in the building in the center all day without appreciable service my phone doesn't last the day. If I'm at an outside wall, my phone barely makes it through the day without any significant usage, barely getting one bar. If I'm out and about I've had service work on standby for couple of days when I've forgotten to charge it overnight.

      Admittedly we are right between a major power substation and high-voltage transmission lines, and there's a cell-tower out back; I don't know what carriers.

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    5. Re:No towers in range? by heypete · · Score: 2

      That doesn't jive with my results though. At work, if I'm in the building in the center all day without appreciable service my phone doesn't last the day. If I'm at an outside wall, my phone barely makes it through the day without any significant usage, barely getting one bar. If I'm out and about I've had service work on standby for couple of days when I've forgotten to charge it overnight.

      That seems to match with what I'm saying: when the phone is constantly searching for signals it has the receiver enabled all the time and the gain turned up to maximum, using more power. When it is in an area of low-but-there signal, the receiver isn't powered up as often, but the gain is still high, so it uses a medium amount of power. When you're out in the open and there's lots of signal, the receiver isn't powered up as often and the gain is low, so it uses the least amount of power.

      I apologize if I wasn't clear before.

  2. network config by Maxx169 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My bet - different CDRX settings, fast dormancy, idle timers. Is probably a better engineered network.

  3. Re: Correction: T-Mobile Android Smartphones by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The iPhone would actually be a more effective test because iPhones tend to be identical regardless of what carrier you are on. I'm extremely surprised they did not test the iPhone for this reason.

  4. Test with unlocked phone? by BaronM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would be interesting to know if an unlocked AT&T phone moved to T-mobile's network suddenly lasts longer.

  5. And T-mobiles software is terrible... by Nerobro · · Score: 4, Informative

    And this is with t-mobiles software installed. With a clean phone, the T-mobile "my account" software is the highest usage bit of software on the phone. Disabling it was worth hours of runtime.

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    1. Re:And T-mobiles software is terrible... by stephanruby · · Score: 2

      And this is with t-mobiles software installed. With a clean phone, the T-mobile "my account" software is the highest usage bit of software on the phone. Disabling it was worth hours of runtime.

      I have real trouble believing you.

      Here are the "Battery Use Details" stats from my T-Mobile LG G3:
      23% Screen
      13% Android OS
      11% Cell standby
      11% Phone idle
      8% Android System
      7% Google Play Services
      6% Wi-fi
      5% YourBus AC Transit
      2% GUNSHIP BATTLE
      2% Mediaserver
      1% System Manager Application

      Granted, mine is not a clean phone. And it does seem like the ugly purple "my account" application is running all the time because it's always shown when you pull down the notification bar. But I'm really surprised that the "my account" application would consume more battery than even your screen, or the Android OS. In my case, the "my account" application isn't even listed as one of the top 11 (although, admittedly I did increase the timeout of my screen, so that could be one explanation the screen is deemed the #1 app that consumes the most battery). And I did disable the Lookout Mobile trial that usually comes pre-loaded on T-Mobile phones.

  6. Re:False data... by Anubis+IV · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok, so I did an anecdotal apples-to-oranges comparison between different phones on different networks and noticed that my phone was different, so that means that the apples-to-apples comparison the researchers did must be wrong, even though they explicitly controlled for that factor.

    I think this is what you said. Let me know if I mistranslated.

  7. Re: Correction: T-Mobile Android Smartphones by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They were at 41% for the three-month period ending in May. Two factors to keep in mind here: this research pertains specifically to US carriers, so it makes sense to look specifically at US market share, and we're specifically looking at smartphones, not the general cellular market. Globally, Apple's market share is significantly lower than in the US, even more so once you factor in non-smartphones, so I don't doubt that 15% is probably accurate somewhere for some set of conditions, but it isn't applicable in this particular case. 41% is the applicable number in this case.

  8. Re: Correction: T-Mobile Android Smartphones by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Informative

    iPhones tend to be identical regardless of what carrier you are on.

    Not really. There are nearly as many differences with iPhones as there are with any Android phone that's on multiple carriers, and that's been the case from the start. For instance, when they did their first release for Verizon back in 2011, they incorporated a different antenna design than they had in the AT&T model, partially to deal with the antennagate issue and partially because of Verizon's use of CDMA. You could tell by just looking at the exterior which network someone's iPhone 4 belonged to, since the "gaps" were in different places around the casing.

    And the situation really hasn't changed much. They still sell separate CDMA and GSM models in the US and out of the US, with different frequency bands being active depending on your locale and network. Wikipedia lists seven different versions for the iPhone 5s alone, 2 CDMA and 5 GSM.

    They may eventually unify all of those with a single, future design, I suppose, but that hasn't happened yet.

  9. Re: Correction: T-Mobile Android Smartphones by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

    It could also be that 15% refers to sales marketshare (i.e., new users) instead of subscriber marketshare (i.e., existing userbase). It's completely conceivable that maybe 41% of smartphones being used by people today are iPhones, but 15% of new phones sold are iPhones. (If that were the case, it would imply that lots of people were trading in their iPhones for Androids.)

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  10. Re: Correction: T-Mobile Android Smartphones by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "fangirl" because calling someone a "girl" is so much more insulting.

    As an Apple user, you really should try to think different next time.

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  11. Re: Correction: T-Mobile Android Smartphones by praxis · · Score: 3, Informative

    iPhones tend to be identical regardless of what carrier you are on.

    Not really. There are nearly as many differences with iPhones as there are with any Android phone that's on multiple carriers,

    That's true for hardware differences. Software differences skew this gap far wider. An AT&T iPhone's software is far more similar to a Verizon iPhone's software than a similar comparison for Androids.

  12. AT&T HTC Vivid by EmagGeek · · Score: 2

    This is not really related to T-Mobile, but I do know that the battery life on my wife's HTC Vivid **DOUBLED** when I installed CM11 on it.

    It used to last 7-8 hours and now she can comfortably go all day and not have to carry a power pack around with her everywhere she goes.

  13. Re:Not exactly, but yes by SydShamino · · Score: 2

    You are incorrect. I am posting from a "Verizon" iPhone which I bought, unlocked , from an Apple store, then popped in a T-Mobile SIM. It works fine.* The Verizon iPhone has all CDMA and GSM frequencies for all three networks (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon).

    I bought the Verizon version so that I could use it in Korea. T-Mobile provides free data there but you have to have a CDMA-capable phone. Also, I was new to T-Mobile and if their coverage sucked I liked the ability to move to either AT&T or Verizon.

    * T-Mobile recognizes it as an "unknown smart phone" since it doesn't broadcast the correct model number. I get full LTE speed data, voice, text, with graceful downgrades to 4G, 3G, and E, but I can't use iPhone specific features like visual voice mail.

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  14. Identical models? by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Different versions of the same model phone use different radio chips.

    I just bought my wife an S4 Mini, with a choice of at least 5 different models that only really differ in the radio chip - I9190, I9192, I9195T, I9195L and I9197.
    They're all S4 Mini's, one without LTE or NFC, one with dual SIM, the others are all LTE with different frequency bands.