Slashdot Mirror


Edward Snowden Is Not Alone: US Gov't Seeks Another Leaker

bobbied (2522392) writes Apparently Edward Snowden is not alone. CNN is reporting that recent leaked documents published by The Intercept (a website that has been publishing Snowden's leaked documents) could not have been leaked by Snowden because they didn't exist prior to his fleeing the USA and he couldn't possibly have accessed them. Authorities are said to be looking for a new leaker.

14 of 204 comments (clear)

  1. It was me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guys, it was me. I'm sorry, but I just can't keep a secret, which is why I revealed it, and why I had to tell you that Mrs. Jenkins across the street? The UPS man was parked there 45 minutes this morning, and he smiled coming out.

  2. What else ? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They will call the whistle blowers "TRAITORS" and they will come up with all the usual justifications - that they need to fight "terrorism", or whatever it is ...

    America is turning into an extra-large-size concentration camp and still there are people wanting it to happen !

    --
    Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
    1. Re:What else ? by currently_awake · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or maybe they forgot to shut down Snowden's admin account? Maybe it was part of his job, to cancel his own accounts and return the door keys before he quit.

  3. Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Despite the NSA's back to business reaction post-Snowden,

    and the lack of meaningful change from the initial outrage,

    Maybe, just fucking Maybe, Snowden's legacy will be his inspiration to leagues of others who are driven to reveal outrages instead of ignoring them like good little soldiers.

    --
    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

  4. Re:Back in May they already said Snowden didn't ha by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Believable, but considering that the CIA said that nobody had access to the senate's subnet, and then it turned out that common IT workers had access AND USED IT -- and Snowden was in a similar position -- and I'd take anything said by NSA leadership with a grain of salt. Often at that level, "he didn't have access to" really means "the policies stated he shouldn't access that." It doesn't mean that it wasn't possible, just that it was outside accepted policies and procedures, and that at some point, someone SHOULD have airgapped it and added in the appropriate ACLs such that it wouldn't be possible.

    But I'd believe more that Snowden was the one who escaped with the data, but there are actually a number of people who were involved in obtaining it in the first place. And now that Snowden has opened things up but prevented himself from providing other leaks, the rest have found an alternate route that didn't involve a courier in the same manner.

    The thing is, if they can leak like this, that means it's just as easy for other actors to be leaking to people who might want the information but who won't tell about it. This shows that access control at the NSA is still thoroughly broken, no matter who the leak was.

  5. Re:tin-foil tempest in a teapot by dnavid · · Score: 5, Funny

    maybe, just maybe, Snowden is the FACE of the leaks.

    Which begs the question: who are the BA, Hannibal, and Murdock of the leaks.

  6. How can there not be? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All of these agencies are shown to be violating the law, lying to us (and Congress) about it, and generally ignoring basic rule of law.

    So, either you have to conclude that everybody who works for these agencies has bought into the Kool-Aid of fascism ... of some of them are going to realize that the surveillance state has gone way beyond what it should and is undermining everything.

    This level government secrecy and abuse is a cancer, and it needs to be removed.

    Quite frankly, leaking is pretty much moral obligation of anybody who has realized the extent to which these agencies have become toxic.

    --
    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
  7. Re:More than one by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If one person does it, they'll think he's a traitor.
    If two people do it, they'll think they're both faggots.
    If three people do it--imagine! Three people walking in, leaking information, and walking out? They'll think it's a terrorist organization.
    And can you imagine 50 people walkin' in, leakin' information, and walkin' out?! They'll think it's a terrorist movement!

    (Apologies to Arlo Guthrie...)

  8. Re:More than one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now friends, somewhere in Utah, enshrined in a little server, is a study in ones and zeroes of this Slashdot post. And the only reason I'm writing this post now is 'cause you may know somebody in a similar situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if you're in a situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's log into the message board wherever you are, just log in and post "General, you can read anything you want at Anonymous' Restaurant."

    And log out.

    If one person does it, they'll think he's a traitor.
    If two people do it, they'll think they're both faggots.
    If three people do it--imagine! Three people walking in, leaking information, and walking out? They'll think it's a terrorist organization.
    And can you imagine 50 people walkin' in, leakin' information, and walkin' out?! They'll think it's a terrorist movement!

    And that's what it is, the Anonymous' Restaurant Anti-Censorship Whistleblowin' Movement, and all you gotta to do join is post this message the next time this article appears on the Slashdot dupe post.

    With feeling.

    So we'll wait for it to come around as a dupe on Slashdot here, and you can post it when it does.

    Here it comes.

    You can read anything you want at Anonymous' Restaurant
    You can read anything you want at Anonymous' Restaurant
    Exfiltrate with a simple hack,
    Pop the return address from your program's stack,
    And you can read anything you want at Anonymous' Restaurant.

    That was horrible. If you want to limit the powers of the surveillance state and actually be able to exercise your civil liberties the way your scraggly-haired hippie parents did, you gotta post in ALL CAPS! I've been typing this post for 27 minutes, Mr. Anonymous Coward, I can type for another 27 minutes. I'm not proud. Or tired.

    So we'll wait for the American voters to elect candidates who are willing to force the domestic intelligence community back into compliance with constitutional law, or at least USSID-18, by means of a 21st century Church Commission, and this time with four-part harmony and feeling.

    *pause*

    (Okay, so we might be waiting for a bit longer than 27 minutes...)

  9. Re:tin-foil tempest in a teapot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No it doesnt. http://begthequestion.info/

    Linguistic prescriptivists are always on the wrong side of history. This is to be expected, since history isn't written by losers.

  10. They are NOT whistleblowers or moles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are NOT whistleblowers or moles... they are our nations TRUEST, in every sense of the word, Freedom Fighters.

    Lets repeat that again, Freedom Fighters.

    I'm not a religious man, but I'll bloody well say this. God bless you, for you are the few protecting us from the tyrants within.

  11. Re:Snowden and Assange... by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Informative

    When he revealed the war-related documents he did without sanitizing them, he put the lives of many Iraqi and Afgani citizens who worked with our forces at risk,

    [Citation Needed]
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2010/1015/Wikileaks-US-says-limited-damage-from-leak-of-Afghan-war-logs

    No U.S. intelligence sources or practices were compromised by the posting of secret Afghan war logs by the WikiLeaks website, the Pentagon has concluded, but the military thinks the leaks could still cause significant damage to U.S. security interests.

    The assessment, outlined in a letter [written by Defense Secretary Robert Gates] obtained Friday by The Associated Press, suggests that some of the Obama administration's worst fears about the July disclosure of almost 77,000 secret U.S. war reports have so far failed to materialize.

    The White House led with the notion that Wikileaks War Logs might put people at risk, but that talking point has long since been abandoned.

    If you keep in mind that the Government (via the NY Times) already knew what was going to be published,
    it's hard to imagine that they didn't mitigate the potential fallout and that's why there's no harm that can be shown.

    Not to mention that the Feds have been doing everything to keep Manning's lawyers from seeing the damage assessments from the leaks.

    --
    [Fuck Beta]
    o0t!
  12. Re:Am I the only one around here ... by Sabriel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The catch with your #2 is that the ultimate boss and owner of any data held by the US government is the US public. The constitutional foundation of their entire system of government is not "We the Government", but "We the People of the United States", no matter how much winking, nudging and outright fraud goes on in the corridors of power.

    So if you found your company (government) was up to no good, and upon going up the chain got told to stick your head in the sand if you know what's good for you, I'd hope you'd strongly consider going to the police (public). And as a human being, I'd be less than impressed if someone chose their own very comfortable life over the endangered liberty of the people they'd sworn to protect.

  13. Re:Snowden and Assange... by jeIIomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are a few things he released that I actually wish he hadn't. For instance, I think the details on technologies and methods used for targeted surveillance, for instance, should have remained secret.

    Nope. They're doing unconstitutional spying, so they deserve to have the details leaked so people can better try to defend themselves.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.