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Selectable Ethics For Robotic Cars and the Possibility of a Robot Car Bomb

Rick Zeman writes Wired has an interesting article on the possibility of selectable ethical choices in robotic autonomous cars. From the article: "The way this would work is one customer may set the car (which he paid for) to jealously value his life over all others; another user may prefer that the car values all lives the same and minimizes harm overall; yet another may want to minimize legal liability and costs for herself; and other settings are possible. Philosophically, this opens up an interesting debate about the oft-clashing ideas of morality vs. liability." Meanwhile, others are thinking about the potential large scale damage a robot car could do.

Lasrick writes Patrick Lin writes about a recent FBI report that warns of the use of robot cars as terrorist and criminal threats, calling the use of weaponized robot cars "game changing." Lin explores the many ways in which robot cars could be exploited for nefarious purposes, including the fear that they could help terrorist organizations based in the Middle East carry out attacks on US soil. "And earlier this year, jihadists were calling for more car bombs in America. Thus, popular concerns about car bombs seem all too real." But Lin isn't too worried about these threats, and points out that there are far easier ways for terrorists to wreak havoc in the US.

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  1. Hi welcome to Jonny Cab by garlicbready · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hope you enjoyed the ride ha ha

  2. Blue Screen of Death... by bobbied · · Score: 4, Funny

    BSOD starts to take on a whole new meaning..

    As does, crash dump, interrupt trigger, dirty block and System Panic...

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    1. Re:Blue Screen of Death... by jpvlsmv · · Score: 4, Funny
      You're right, officer, Clippy should not have been driving.

      Now, what to do when my Explorer crashes...

      Click on the Start button, go to "All Programs", then go to "Brakes", right-click on the "Apply Brakes" button, and choose "Run as Administrator". After the 15-second splash screen (now with Ads by Bing), choose "Decelerate Safely".

  3. Re:Drivers already have variable ethics by kruach+aum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because ethicists like making work for themselves -- it's unethical to wait for another disaster or human rights violation just so you can do more work!

  4. Scare of the day by Iamthecheese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear government, Please shut up bout terrorism and get out of the way of innovation. sincerely, informed citizen

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  5. Automation, remote controls already exist by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's skip "car" because I can, in theory, attach enough explosives(and shrapnel) to kill a large number of people to a simple homemade quadrotor, run with open source software, give it a dead-reckoning path and fire and forget from a relatively inconspicuous location. Multiple simultaneously, if I have the amount of resources a car bomb would require.

    Automation is here. Being paranoid about one particular application of it won't help anyone.

  6. Re:Insurance rates by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hahahahahahahahaha. No, they won't. They will keep themselves around through lobbying efforts.

  7. Philosophy Settings by timrod · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, cannot wait for the day when I can set my car's logic system to different ethical settings, sorted by philosopher. For instance, you can set your car to "Jeremy Bentham", which will automatically choose whoever looks less useful to ram into when in a crash situation. You could also set it to "Plato", which will cause the car to ram into whoever appears less educated (just hope it doesn't happen to be you).

    Just make sure you don't set the car to "Nietzsche".

  8. FBI: 1, Ethics: 0 by some+old+guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, the FBI is already making the case for, "We need full monitoring and control intervention capability for everybody's new cars, because terrorists."

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  9. Re:Drivers already have variable ethics by maliqua · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm not really sure why they call it 'ethics of the car' not ethics of the owner or programmer, or administrator of the car.

    If you put a bomb in a robot car and had tell it to drive to a statium, the car didn't fail to make an ethical choice. I doubt the car would even be aware of the bomb, or what a bomb is, or why its bad.

  10. Re:Fuck people! by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Judging from Monday morning traffic in my town, a lot of people already set their cars to that setting.

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  11. Re:"Philosophically, this opens up an interesting by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No. To minimize damage, you'd have to brake when approaching a child. To minimize liability, you have to accelerate when you notice that you can't stop in time to avoid severe injury, i.e. to ensure death which is cheaper than a lifetime cripple.

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  12. Re:Insurance rates by grahamsz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    More likely that your insurance company would enforce the settings on your car and require that you pay them extra if you'd like the car to value your life over other lives.

    With fast networks it's even possible that the insurance companies could bid on outcomes as the accident was happening. Theoretically my insurer could throw my car into a ditch to avoid damage to a bmw coming the other way.

  13. Re:MUCH easier. by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are speculating on a system that would be able to correctly identify ALL THE OBJECTS IN THE AREA and that is never going to happen.

    It doesn't have to identify all the objects in the area, it simply has to not hit them.

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  14. Will not matter. by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder whether your insurance company would demand to know how you have set your car, and adjust your rates accordingly?

    That does not matter because it won't be an option.

    That is because "A.I." cars will never exist.

    They will not exist because they will have to start out as less-than-100%-perfect than TFA requires. And that imperfection will lead to mistakes.

    Those mistakes will lead to lawsuits. You were injured when a vehicle manufactured by "Artificially Intelligent Motors, inc (AIM, inc)" hit you by "choice". That "choice" was programmed into that vehicle at the demand of "AIM, inc" management.

    So no. No company would take that risk. And anyone stupid enough to try would not write perfect code and would be sued out of existence after their first patch.

  15. Re:Insurance rates by pla · · Score: 4, Informative

    There in principle cannot be a car insurance market if cars don't crash anymore.

    In the past 15 years, I have invoked my car insurance three times, and haven't had a single accident in that time.

    Insurance covers more than just liability - It covers a small rock falling from a dump-truck and breaking your windshield; it covers your car getting stolen; some policies even act as a sort of extended warranty, covering repair or replacement costs in the event of a breakdown.

    And, even with a hypothetically "perfect" driver, some accidents will still happen - Front tire blowout at 75MPH in dense traffic, deer running from the woods into the road 10ft in front of you, construction debris falling from an overpass, etc. Driverless cars will probably handle these events better than live humans do, but such events will still happen.

    All of that said, I would love for you to have it 100% correct, because I fucking loathe insurance companies, and deeply resent the government forcing me to pay them in order to drive. I just don't realistically see it happening.