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When Customer Dissatisfaction Is a Tech Business Model

jammag writes: A new trend has emerged where tech companies have realized that abusing users pays big. Examples include the highly publicized Comcast harassing service call, Facebook "experiments," Twitter timeline tinkering, rude Korean telecoms — tech is an area where the term "customer service" has an Orwellian slant. Isn't it time customer starting fleeing abusive tech outfits?

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  1. Fleeing abusive companies? by robinsonne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where are customers supposed to flee to? Many of these companies are de facto monopolies in many areas or at the very least in lock-step with their "competitors." There aren't very many choices for tech companies unless you want to do without, which is unpalatable for many.

    1. Re:Fleeing abusive companies? by Matheus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ^ This exactly (mod parent up).

      Every single company listed in the summary has little to fear from competition at the moment. They have no incentive to placate the user base so the corporate drive of "maximize profits and growth" goes unabated.

    2. Re:Fleeing abusive companies? by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's almost like large organizations have voting rights.

      What do you mean "almost"?

      They have more voting rights than you, me, or anyone.

      And you know what? We've got "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" who will fight you tooth-and-nail to defend that, in spite of their own interests.

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    3. Re:Fleeing abusive companies? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nononono, they don't have voting rights. They get to choose who you may vote for, and you then get to choose between their candidates.

      IIRC it's called "separation of power" or something like that.

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  2. Where would we flee to? by Maxwell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Required comment: the big corps have won. Deal with it.

    1. Re:Where would we flee to? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I work for a big corp, and we don't treat our customers like crap.

      I think what you're looking at is companies like Comcast who have government guaranteed monopoly in the areas they serve. Smaller outfits or community broadband outfits are either forbidden from competing or are forced to pay exorbitant easement fees. Not by the federal government, but by the local governments. For companies in Comcast's position, there's no need to be concerned how you treat the customer, mainly because the local governments tell them not to worry about it.

  3. Customer/product by afidel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember, if something is free you aren't the customer, you are the product and so long as they're not pissing off their advertisers these companies can do anything that doesn't significantly reduce their user counts.

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  4. Re:Free market by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    bought-and-paid-for politicians using the law to favor their friends isn't "the free market"

  5. Re:Free market by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find it funny how people who defend capitalism in this day and age like to say that what we have is "crony capitalism" and if we'd just give real capitalism a try for once it would be super awesome.

    What does that sound like?

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  6. Flee? That's what they want. by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The best (most profitable) customer is the one that can be bullied into puting up with your bullshit. The demanding ones, the ones who know how the service should work and cause trouble when it doesn't measure up are worth getting rid of.

    Thank you, sir. May I have another?

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  7. Re:Free market by twotacocombo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good customer service is expensive.

    Good customer service is less expensive than bad customer service. A smaller call center staffed with decently trained and compensated CSRs is far more cost effective than watching the headcount continuously grow and churn to deal with the increased call volume due to poorly trained staff dumping calls, permaholds, supervisor escalations, previous callers figuring out they've been lied to, etc. At some point, your call center will outgrow its allotted space, and then you'll have to deal with a costly move or additional locations. Both companies I worked for experienced this, one of them had to move TWICE in 4 years, and the cost was mindblowing. Then, as you lose a lot of your customers, there's the cost of downsizing.. all of which could have been avoided by just properly hiring, training, and compensating a solid, core group of people to take care of your customers and make sure they didn't become unhappy with the thought of giving you their money.

  8. Run away! Run away! by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't it time customer starting fleeing abusive tech outfits?

    Fleeing to where? Some other company where the service is just as bad or worse?

    I'm currently displeased with T-Mobile and the lies they told me about their "no overages fees" promise. I walked into AT&T and asked "how much to put your SIM in my phone?"

    "$20 a month for 300Mb data, unlimited talk/text". Oh, ok!

    "Plus $25/month to use a phone with that service." WTF? You can buy a service that requires a phone and then charge EXTRA to be able to use a phone with it? MY own phone, to boot?

    I could understand if you were adding additional devices to the service (two phones sharing one plan, e.g.). I could understand a charge to get a phone from them. But I consider it dishonest to separate out the plan from any devices that you need to have to use that service. It makes the cost look artificially low.

    $20/month! Great deal. $45/month, not so good anymore.

    Adding in that they charge for texts coming through the email to SMS gateway despite being "unlimited text", the service was more expensive for less product. I could choose to send a message to T-Mobile but it would wind up costing me more per month, and I have no reason to believe that AT&T's customer service is any better than T-Mobile's.

    So, it is likely that the idea of fleeing companies with bad customer service would only result in increased thrashing as 100 people move from company A to company B and 100 move from B to A, and 200 people find out that neither one is any good at helping them, and 200 people find out that they couldn't get as good a deal at their new provider as they had at the old.

    There is also the issue of the devil you know vs. the one you don't. AT&T may have better service, but they probably don't, and I already know how bad T-Mobile is. Changing providers for no benefit, added cost, and potentially no better service is a lose for me and T-Mobile probably wouldn't even notice.