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13-Year-Old Finds Fungus Deadly To AIDS Patients Growing On Trees

An anonymous reader writes Researchers have pinpointed the environmental source of fungal infections that have been sickening HIV/AIDS patients in Southern California for decades. It literally grows on trees. The discovery is based on the science project of a 13-year-old girl, who spent the summer gathering soil and tree samples from areas around Los Angeles hardest hit by infections of the fungus named Cryptococcus gattii.

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  1. Wonderful title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I did'nt know there were AIDS patients growing on trees...

  2. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    AIDS patients grow on trees now?

  3. The Tools of Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thirteen year olds have access to the results of genetic testing and do basic analysis on them. The tools that are available for people to do science is amazing. It is a good time to be alive. Now if we could only find a way to convince the politicians and parents to let teachers share these insights without forcing students to sit in chairs and be lectured at all day.

    1. Re:The Tools of Science by timrod · · Score: 5, Informative

      As great as that sounds, it's actually not the case here. The article states that the girl's father is an infectious disease researcher at UCLA and she was sending the samples to a lab at Duke to be DNA-sequenced. It seems like most of what she did was collect samples of the fungus for her father - an interesting summer project, but not exactly hard science.

    2. Re:The Tools of Science by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tenured professors at universities get their names on papers for less work than that.

    3. Re:The Tools of Science by sjames · · Score: 5, Informative

      So why didn't the hard scientists already know where the fungus was coming from?

      That's right, because they didn't do the science. The girl in TFA did.

    4. Re:The Tools of Science by EmagGeek · · Score: 2

      It's called Montessori School, and it's wonderful.

    5. Re: The Tools of Science by Stickerboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Because honestly no one in medicine cares. There's not just one single environmental source of Cryptococcus, pigeons for example are known carriers. Getting rid of these trees is not going to prevent Cryptococcus infections anytime soon. What will prevent them is getting the HIV in the infected properly treated on a combination antiviral regimen so their own immune system can prevent the infection in the first place.

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    6. Re:The Tools of Science by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since when is collecting samples and cataloging them not hard science? Not particularly difficult, but most definitely hard science.

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    7. Re:The Tools of Science by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Informative

      The student sampled 109 swabs of more than 30 tree species and 58 soil samples, grew and isolated the Cryptococcus fungus and then sent those specimens to Springer at Duke. Springer DNA-sequenced the samples from California and compared the sequences to those obtained from HIV/AIDS patients with C. gattii infections.

      Oh look, the "hard scientists" actually did the science.

      Dukeâ(TM)s chairman of Molecular Genetics and Microbiology, Joseph Heitman M.D., was contacted by longtime collaborator and UCLA infectious disease specialist Scott Filler, M.D., whose daughter Elan was looking for a project to work on during her summer break. They decided it would be fun to send her out in search of fungi living in the greater Los Angeles area.

      The girl didn't figure out where the fungus was coming from, nor did she even come up with the idea to sample fungus herself. The scientists knew it was coming from somewhere in the environment and, since they had an offer of help collecting samples, allowed the student to assist them.

      The girl did not do the science. She just assisted the scientists with the manual labor.

    8. Re: The Tools of Science by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2

      pigeons for example are known carriers

      All the more reason to get rid of these rats with wings.

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    9. Re:The Tools of Science by Krishnoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      The girl did not do the science. She just assisted the scientists with the manual labor.

      So she's, what, a grad student?

    10. Re:The Tools of Science by ediron2 · · Score: 2

      Science is proper data collection, too. She did science.

      Don't get me wrong, GP does seem to have a hate going for scientists -- Maybe there's an innocent reason; maybe they've got a bad case of the Mondays, or maybe they're just cromag antisci doofuses -- It sure seems like half the stuff that spins people up boils down to simple-minded people getting everything deconstructed and predigested down to shittily-written innacurate morality plays and 'ooga booga' sorts of us-vs-them scary narratives. One common narrative is jumping to a wrong "Yaaay, a girl proved science bad, scientists lazy!!" conclusion.

      Very unscientific of them. Let's all take 5 seconds to be quietly shocked... ... but don't shit on either the girl (not named) or Doctors Heitman, Filler (or their unnamed and doubtless overworked/underpaid grad assistants). This is only getting press because nimrods like those tidy narratives. In a perfect world, it'd be a better article, linked to 'how you can do this, too' instructables etc.

  4. Re:the cure for AIDS by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, it's people who have AIDS that spread it, not people with asymptomatic HIV, right?

    I mean, I get that you're just trying to be funny by being a shitty person, but could you pretend to be a shitty person who also isn't completely ignorant?

  5. Re:Aids not the problem by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

    Because the incurable disease comes after the infectious period begins, numbnuts.

    I'm sure you have magic moron powers that will let you detect people infected with HIV who don't yet have AIDS, but the rest of us depend on science and medicine to solve health problems.

  6. It's a right-wing government conspiracy! by mmell · · Score: 3, Funny
    1) Create a disease which targets gays, blacks and IV drug users. Check.

    2) Disseminate a fungus which grows on trees so we can target those left-wing tree-huggers. Check.

    3) ???

    4) Profit!!!

    Damnit - I forgot the part where we nuke the whales. Oh, well - nothing's perfect.

    1. Re:It's a right-wing government conspiracy! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      Damnit - I forgot the part where we nuke the whales.

      Better to it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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  7. Re:the cure for AIDS by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except that killing off people with a disease tends to make people who have the disease a good bit quieter about it, which is harmful to eradication. If you want to throw down blame, it would be those that didn't do anything to stop it because it was a disease that seemed to only affect socially undesirably groups.

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  8. Re:the cure for AIDS by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "our" methods have caused huge reductions in new infections. Your methods at work in places in subsaharan Africa(until recently at least) have led to ignorance, violence, and huge spikes in infections as people try to home remedy HIV away.

  9. Re:Aids not the problem by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Informative

    We have spent a ton of money on prevent education and detection. And it has done a lot of good.

    Infections are way down.
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/new...

  10. Re:English isn't my native language, but... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    English is a naturally ambiguous language, and there are two gramatically correct parsings of that headline.

    It's a bit like "fruit flies like a banana"

  11. Re:the cure for AIDS by orlanz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Assuming that society takes the moral hit and people buy into the concept by not hiding their infections from testing (basically society as a whole accepts self-sacrifice based on a test)...

    Most infectious type of people are not discovered till it is too late. This is a very slow virus. You could be a carrier for months to years and be a vector without showing up positive in a test. Killing off an AIDS victim is kind of pointless, for the virus, the host is well past the diminishing returns curve. Even one that has tested positive for HIV.

    Even if you do find and kill off every HIV patient, it won't kill off the virus. Its origins are from other mammals (this version being chimps). Unless you intend to kill everything that has this virus or a potential parent of it. At which point you would also start targeting other currently non-lethal immune system attacking viruses.

    So the road above is fairly stupid, comes primarily from ignorance & fear, and in the end, doesn't work. If people don't commit to killing themselves based on a test, the above will actually make the HIV/AIDS situation worse as it will go underground.

    The better solution is to let the people live and use them to find a cure. This way, we not only solve the current situation, but also similar mutations in the future. By letting people live, we have already discovered some folks who are immune to AIDS!

  12. Re: Nature is fighting against gays... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is no widespread practice of beastiality within the countries where HIV developed. Current operating hypothesis is that it came from improper animal handling procedures resulting in blood-to-blood contact between SIV-infected apes and ordinary humans, allowing the virus to jump hosts.

  13. Re:Young person does something amazing! by ganjadude · · Score: 2

    even so, its nice to see a father and child doing research, even if she is not old enough to fully understand it all

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  14. Not just AIDS patients and not just in CA by LearningHard · · Score: 5, Informative

    My father in the mid-south had a 3 year long struggle with this infection. It has left him a completely different person (three tumors in his brain). This is a nasty disease that was previously sub-tropical and is making its way into North America. The treatment is really nasty.

    Amphotericin B has terrible common side effects and the nurses had a nickname for it that was something like "Ampho the Terrible."

    Flucytosine is also used and it has a dramatic effect on the mental state of the patient.

    During the time my father was taking these medications he suffered kidney failure, massive weight loss, constant nausea and vomiting, poor impulse control (to the point that it was like he had no filter to stop him from saying or doing anything). I'm very glad my father is still alive but even two years removed he still is suffering the effects of this illness.

  15. Re:Stay away from those trees then! by penguinoid · · Score: 2

    Proof that God hates tree-huggers.

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