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Russian Military Forces Have Now Invaded Ukraine
SpzToid (869795) writes Those plucky "Ukrainian separatist's" ambition to join Russia have now been given Russian military support, as the Russian Army with long columns of armor have invaded Ukraine and have opened up a second warring front, in a big way. The Reuters report, interestingly, quotes a member of Putin's own advisory council on human rights describing the move as an invasion: "When masses of people, under commanders' orders, on tanks, APCs and with the use of heavy weapons, (are) on the territory of another country, cross the border, I consider this an invasion."
"sovereignty" what a fucking joke. They ousted a lawfully elected president, using an unlawful process at our urging. Lets face it when Obam says "elections have consequences" he means "election have consequences, if the elected is me". We have seen this with Morsi as well.
I am not saying Yanakovich was good guy; but we could have taken all their air out of this thing at the start if we would have backed Russia, in insisting the rebels/rioters just go home. Putin did not like Yanakovich either but had more or less backed him publicly at the time. It would have been much more politically challenging for him to get away with invading Ukraine while the sitting Russian leaning president was in office and than after he lost the next election to a European leaning one. Now we a situation where people can argue about the the legitmacy of the current office holders, Putin can and does make the very correct argument they are no more or less legitimate than the separatist leaders.
We could have avoided all this if Obama had been a little more patient and not tried bring Ukraine under Western influence so aggressively and quickly. It would have happen, was happening just needed time.
Now this is really Russia's game to loose. Ukraine is strategically more valuable to them than us. We have more immediate threats to deal with ISIS, Assad, IRAQ, Hamas, North Korean, and the African coast. All of those pose much greater economic and security risks to us than what happens in Non-NATO Eastern Europe.
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Ukrainians are a modern, western, civilized people. Arming them is quite different than arming religious fanatics looking to recreate the middle ages.
Tell that to the passengers on MH17.
Regardless of which group of Ukrainians shot them down, those passengers would be alive if that side didn't have high-performance anti-aircraft missiles.