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Ukraine Asks Zuckerberg to Discipline Kremlin Facebook Bots
mi writes "Ukrainian media is reporting (link in Ukrainian), that Facebook is getting increasingly heavy-handed blocking Ukrainian bloggers. The likely explanation for the observed phenomenon is that Facebook's Ukrainian office is located in Russia and is headed by a Russian citizen (Catherine Skorobogatov). For example, a post calling on Russian mothers to not let their sons go to war was blocked "Due to multiple complaints". Fed up, Ukrainian users are writing directly to Zukerberg to ask him to replace Catherine with someone, who would not be quite as swayed by the "complaints" generated by Russian bots.
Probably FB's.
Where's the problem? I mean, for FB. Why should FB care whether Ukraine or Russia is winning the media war? As long as people follow it on FB, FB is winning.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Get a perspective or something.
When the "local militias" chose to take over Donetsk International Airport in June, and were ousted by Ukrainian marines, the coffins were sent mostly to Russia and Chechnia. Yeah right, locals took up arms to defend themselves.
Yes, there are some locals fighting. They are not the most agressive, and their numbers are dropping. There is scarecely any equipment seized by locals left. Nearly all of the heavy equipment has been deliberately supplied by Russian state.
...Why should FB care whether Ukraine or Russia is winning the media war?...
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Russia and Ukraine are engaged in a little bit more than a media war.
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Last I checked, Russia was invading eastern Ukraine.
I suspect that may bode poorly for a FB office in Russia to properly handle Ukrainian Facebook business.
That "separatist movement" was paid for by Putin and his allies. Mind you there are huge resources in eastern Ukraine that Putin needs if he wants to go into war with rest of Europe as he is clearly planning to do. I also want to remind you that Russia has already annexed Crimea from Ukraine in the most illegal way found.
Kosovo is a completely different matter.
No it doesn't, the separatist movement has never had popular support in east Ukraine, the argument for populist support was tenuous even in Crimea that is by far the most pro-Russian part of Ukraine.
"If you don't believe me, just look at the photos of the East Ukraine during March and April when citizens were blocking off roads to stop tanks, in some cases just like the Tiananmen Man."
If you think tens, at most hundreds of people, some of whom were themselves "rebels" aka Putin's agent provocateurs in regions of millions is a sign of popular support than I urge you to go and get a better grasp of millions of numbers. A counterpoint to yours would be the citizens of Mariupol who are currently helping the Ukrainian military dig trenches against the Russian invaders and who formed a many mile long chain of people to make the point that they don't want Putin's soldiers to take over their territory.
There are polls both before:
http://www.cityam.com/blog/139...
and after shit kicked off:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05...
That show that the Russian made myth of support for joining Russia or being independent from Ukraine is just that, a myth.
Putin is trying to make Eastern Ukraine a buffer zone by injecting his own Russian puppet leadership there just as he did with Crimea, and just as he did with Ukraine (which is what led to this situation). It has nothing to do with what the people there want and everything to do with Putin's paranoia that Europe is somehow out to get him, rather than the actual reality - that Ukrainians would rather just join modern prosperous democratic Europe, than corrupt, poverty stricken, dictatorial Russia. That's why Putin has manufactured the myth you're parroting.
Stop propping up the propaganda of a brutal dictator, because that's what Putin is.
Here's a video of locals stopping a tank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Here is an iconic picture of Putin's agent provocateurs blocking a railroad crossing to stop Ukrainian tanks: http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/acc... and another one http://crisisua.net/zhiteli-sl...
I was personally in Kramatorsk helping to move my friend's family from there during the start of the conflict. And I certainly know that the reason for the conflict was not Putin.
A counterpoint to yours would be the citizens of Mariupol who are currently helping the Ukrainian military dig trenches against the Russian invaders and who formed a many mile long chain of people to make the point that they don't want Putin's soldiers to take over their territory.
And? Mariupol is fairly far from Donetsk, and after one month or brainwashing by the Ukrainian media, people there believe that the Russian army is coming to kill, rape and eat them (possibly not in that order). Do you know that Ukraine now has no opposition TV channels and jams the Russian TV (using the same jammers that USSR had been using earlier to stop 'The Voice of America')?
Incidentally, if we're talking about the people digging trenches: http://gordonua.com/news/war/P... then it turned out to be a photo-op, staged by Ukrainian media.