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NATO Set To Ratify Joint Defense For Cyberattacks
An anonymous reader writes: At the upcoming NATO meeting, according to the NY Times, the 28 member states are expected to ratify "a far-reaching change in the organization's mission of collective defense: For the first time, a cyberattack on any of the 28 NATO nations could be declared an attack on all of them, much like a ground invasion or an airborne bombing." A former NATO ambassador describes NATO's technological capability as "pretty basic" and suggests any counter-cyberattacks would likely be lodged by member states (meaning the U.S. and maybe Britain). He opines, "It's a measure of how far we've come on this issue that there's now a consensus that a cyberattack could be as devastating as any other kind of attack, maybe even more so." Helpfully, the agreement avoids defining what sort of "cyberattack" would warrant an armed response. The Times describes the agreement as "deliberately unclear."
Sounds like a cyberattack, directive to all NATO countries: blacklist this BGP route.
Welcome to the great firewall of America.
-dk
Don't tell me this doesn't have more to do with filesharing than "cyberattacks".
Most of the cyberattacks are state sponsored now anyway. Anything involving NATO and the internet is all about the new TISA "free trade" agreements. If Western governments want to stop cyberattacks, then maybe they should stop attacking their citizens in cyberspace. It's pretty hypocritical to rattle sabers regarding "cyberattacks" when your own intelligence services are eavesdropping on phones and distributing malware.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Meanwhile in the Ukraine...or is it Russia now? (Anyone at NATO looking at that in between Swordfish showings?)
present Ukrainians, notwithstanding...
So-called Anonymous is a cancer on society and the internet. They should get due-processes, but they should also be treated as the criminals they are.
Treat this anon like the coward... i mean criminal that he is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_deliberate_ambiguity
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With the end of the Cold War, there really wasn't a useful mission for NATO. Many believed that NATO should have been disbanded.
Joint Defense. It's good to see NATO defending joints. I believe the recent elections in Washington state and Colorado influenced this decision.
How about not putting Microsoft Windows anywhere on your computer infrastructure ..
I am uncomfortable with military involvement with civilian affairs. The end result is usually a military coup of some kind. People and organizations should be responsible for securing their own systems. Call the police and use the justice system in the event rights are infringed by crackers.
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
NATO = a bunch of old faggots who need to die so the rest of the world can be free from their enslavement of humanity.
The Cyber War Domain will be a profitable thing for the War Industry.
And yeah, the backdoors are not labelled NSALOOKHEREBADTHING. The backdoors are created by inserting crap developers into Projects Whose Code Is Too Perfect. The crappers will then involuntarily insert bugs which can used for malicious purpose.
And, everybody uses the USG invention "C", so that the crappers have sufficient chances.
that rule this country are trying to shove another cold war down our throats. They hate the idea of piece since their fantasy book about some invisible moron in the sky with nail holes in his hands tells them they must start wars. That is the way of their kind. This treaty will end-up with thousands, if not tens of thousands dead. As the Republicans noted, most of the hacking comes from residential addresses, and they want to firebomb those neighborhoods including the children. Again, that is the way of their kind just as they so enjoy flooding Israel with weapons to use to attach schools and murder children. That is what this is about.
Don't be fooled. And even if NATO were about 'defense' -- we know from recent Israeli actions (all condoned by the so called democratic West and NATO countries) how 'defense' has no problems with real and tangible bodies of children, as long as they're 'theirs'.
If you're finally sick to your stomach of manipulation abd repression and murder, perpetrated by your own country, refuse to pay taxes for so called 'defense'. The dossiers and the charters and binding agreements are there to aid you -- just refuse.
So what constitutes an attack or an aggressor?
Given the demonstrated built-in vulnerabilities in so much of the internet infrastructure, how is this helpful - other than as an excuse for something akin to drive-by shootings?
The built-in vulnerabilities I'm thinking of are:
This is only a justification for a quick-response for military action - and frankly I'm more concerned about international criminal attacks than national attacks. Even then, I'm reluctant to give hot-pursuit like powers for trans-border police actions.
Re 'So what constitutes an attack or an aggressor?"
Its just about spending, integration with US products and services. A new market place to ensure NATO buys up big on cyber products. Jets and rockets in the cold war past, digital services and long term contracts now.
With the internet any outside party can make sure it is seen during and after an event as to have moved via any network it wants.
Lots of nice ip numbers and perfect working hours in time zones, the use of a language and style, hints to the press.
Even working out who paid for, made, networked and got results takes months. Whats at the end of all the hard work? Some bot network around the world that might have CCTV near them that was kept for months over a few random nations with cheap optical?
A nation state who worked with other friendly nation states? Or an easy find days later code that 100% points to just one nation?
Most smart nations will just go internal and buy/find real people to help locally. Other nations will just spin a random global network and try and shift the blame onto some 'expected' nation.
The only winner is the sale and years of rent seeking maintenance contracts to NATO members. The rest is just networks that start and stop in random nations over hours, days, months that all seem to be coded by some really skilled county. Like other skilled experts cant offer the same code thats a bit too easy to find... as bait or a press event.
All the good data would be air gapped after how many years of networking issues?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
It ensures a calm national press event. Lots of nice trusted people from the press interviewing trusted experts, some in trusted national uniforms offering details about the ip, time zones and code style all pointing to the bad nation and only the bad nation.
Everybody is on message and on the same page, the press, sockpuppets and web 2.0 then carry the message out to the wider local community.
At some later date real work is done on the code, ip's, origins, destination and the reality sets in that its just another well crafted global network doing what it was coded for.
The blame is still with the original nation, reality months later gets a mention in the international tech press.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Hopefully, it will encourage China to curtail their current activities. I know I'm sick of all the Chinese IP's bouncing packets off my company's firewalls.