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WD Announces 8TB, 10TB Helium Hard Drives

Lucas123 writes: Western Digital's HGST subsidiary today announced it's shipping its first 8TB and the world's first 10TB helium-filled hard drive. The 3.5-in, 10TB drive also marks HGST's first foray into the use of shingled magnetic recording technology, which Seagate began using last year. Unlike standard perpendicular magnetic recording (PMR), where data tracks rest side by side, SMR overlaps the tracks on a platter like shingles on a roof, thereby allowing a higher areal density. Seagate has said SMR technology will allow it to achieve 20TB drives by 2020. That company has yet to use helium, however. HGST said its use of hermetically-sealed helium drives reduces friction among moving drive components and keeps dust out. Both drives use a 7-platter configuration with a 7200 RPM spindle speed. The company said it plans to discontinue its production of air-only drives by 2017, replacing all data center models with helium drives.

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  1. Data Distortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    All my audio files sound like "Tiny Tim"

  2. containment by Eric+Coleman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The most important question is what is the lifespan of the helium containment. Helium is notorious for getting in to and out of places that other elements can't. For example, in balloon borne cosmic ray experiments, or anything with a calorimeter or hodoscope that utilizes photomultiplier tubes, you have the problem of the helium from the balloon getting into the PMTs, which hold a vacuum. Of course, there are low pressure conditions to consider, but I'm still skeptical of the helium staying in the hard drive.

    1. Re:containment by maswan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Clever materials choices and lower pressure than on the outside (~40% IIRC). Luckily leakage is easily measured in the product design and testing phase, as well as ongoing QA. So not nearly as much risk to your data as stupid firmware bugs that only turn up under some circumstances after lots of usage. And no, they won't be refillable.

    2. Re:containment by confused+one · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just fill the datacenter with helium... That way as much will leak into the drives as leaks out.

    3. Re:containment by sexconker · · Score: 4, Funny

      The enterprise grade drives are designed to be refillable. Consumer grade will not be, but will have a several year MTBF by which time the drive will be obsolete anyway and you'll be able to get one 4X the size for the same price.

      So not really an issue.

      Yeah, because I'm going to have keep a helium tank on hand to refill my drives / call a WD tech to do it for me with hs own supply of helium - "Go ahead and open up the drive bays in our secure data center and jam your nozzle into our running drives, you said you were coming between 8 AM and 5 PM, right?".

    4. Re:containment by rtaylor · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's almost exactly how it works with our quarter million dollar SANs.

      They get paid to maintain the SAN and regularly visit to swap hardware bits or apply software patches to it.

      --
      Rod Taylor
    5. Re:containment by fnj · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, sealing of the valve is a non-trivial issue, but it clearly can't possibly be an insuperable problem. Every K tank of compressed helium gas produced since the 1920s has such a valve, and those tanks are pressurized to well over 100 atmospheres. I have had such a tank sitting for over 10 years with negligible leakage as measured by gauge pressure. I did learn to my dismay that if you leave the main valve open and rely on the regulator and balloon-blowing attachment to hold, you will wonder where the gas went within weeks to months.

      It would be interesting to know the pressure these drives operate at. If it is just room pressure, then I don't see how you could refill it unless you had an outgress valve as well as an ingress valve, in order to flush it.

    6. Re:containment by dissy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not just fill the whole data center with helium... that way, if any gets out of the drive, it's quickly refilled from the outside :-)

      Yeah, that will work.... until the data center floats away.

      Sorry boss, as much as I've tried to fight the fad, our data center is now in the cloud...

  3. Re:Helium? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering a single balloon has more helium than $10,000 of these hard drives, I don't think this is going to be a serious issue anytime soon.

    For party balloons, well, too bad.

    --
    I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
  4. well of course they did! by sribe · · Score: 4, Funny

    I ordered 6TB drives 3 hours ago...

  5. Only one problem... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now all my MP3s sound like the Chipmunks!

  6. Re:Helium? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, there are not. In this case, low molecular weight is the key, and that nearly rules out anything except H2 and He.
    H2 is too reactive though. Ne is interesting, but even more expensive the He and the only advantage is less leaking.
    N2 is not meaningfully different from normal air, and Ar is even heavier.
    CH4 is cheap, light, and mostly unreactive (at moderate temps) but it's really not light enough to compete with He.

    And that's the end of the list.

  7. Re:SSDs will outpace platter drives by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With a fraction of the energy usage, densities increasing, and hopefully a reversal in the recent trend towards less durability, SSDs will probably also overtake platter drives in price per terabyte within 5 years.

    It's not so much a trend as it is an unavoidable problem with increasing densities of SSDs. As you shrink the process size to fit more stuff in the same space, the durability goes down. As you change from SLC to MLC to TLC to fit more stuff in the same space, durability goes down. Substantial technological advances will be required to produce a 20T SSD with both acceptable durability and cost.

    In comparison, shortscreen monitors (often mislabeled as widescreen) are a trend which has no logical or technical underpinning.

  8. Re:Crossfire Hurricane by sexconker · · Score: 4, Funny

    BURMA SHAVE

  9. Re:When can we stop selling party balloons by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just because congress decided we needed to get rid ot all our heilum supplies quick and dump it for cheap?

    The amount of helium used in these drives is utterly insignificant. Congress liquidated the helium reserves on the assumption that the market would respond to shortages more effectively than bureaucrats. So far they have been right. Many gas wells that produce helium have be idled, both because of the low price of gas and the low price of helium. So plenty of helium is being "reserved" by leaving it in the ground. If you think you are smarter than the market, feel free to start your own stockpile. When you get rich, you can come back here, post a picture of your yacht, and say "See, I told you so!"

  10. Re:Helium? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was also wondering this. Wouldn't nitrogen or argon/neon be cheaper?

    The point of using helium is NOT that it is inert, but that it is low density (although the inertness is also nice). Neon is five times as dense and far more expensive. Methane is four times the density. The only gas lighter would be hydrogen. But hydrogen has a nasty habit of migrating through metal, leaking out, and embrittling the metal in the process. Low density gases reduce friction both through reduced mass, and a higher speed threshold for laminar (rather than turbulent) flow. Low density gases tend to also be better heat conductors, helping to keep the disk cool. That is why high density gases, like xenon or sulfer hexafloride, are used in insulated windows.

  11. Not the first helium fillled drive by dsgrntlxmply · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the late 1960s, DDC of San Diego made head-per-track disk drives that operated with a helium atmosphere. These units had a cylinder of helium fastened to the baseplate (the units were 19" rack mount), and the documentation included procedures for replacing the cylinder and for purging from a full-sized cylinder if it was ever necessary to open the unit for repairs.

    I had driven down to San Diego circa 1978 to buy a cylinder of refill helium from DDC for one of these in a hand-me-down system, but never got around to replacing the cylinder on the drive. The cylinder sat in my garage for years. Thirty years later I was a returned adult physics student. My professor was using a similar helium cylinder to purge a cryostat for a superconducting magnet. He ran out of helium, and the department had no other helium. I told him "wait 20 minutes, I'll be back." I retrieved the cylinder from my garage, and the professor was both delighted and baffled. When connected to the regulator, the cylinder proved to have maintained a remarkable fraction of its original pressure, and the professor was able to complete his procedure. Sadly, another part of the magnet failed and suffered a gas pressure explosion as it was being cooled.

    In a remarkable coincidence, I noted that the department's helium cylinder and mine were identical, all the way down to a part number stenciled on them.

  12. Re:USA has it. by fnj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "One of the ultralight gases" - well, that narrows it down to H2 and He and nothing else, now, doesn't it? You left out that the candidate gas has to be very high in thermal conductivity as well, but both of those are so.

    BTW, hydrogen is not higher density than helium. It is considerably lower. It would be more ideal than helium for this use if it weren't for its highly undesirable propensity to react with other substances.

    We're not "running short" of helium. The ready supply of helium-rich natural gas is going to run out some time in the future, but so is the ready supply of just about everything else.

    All the helium you could ever possibly want is in the atmosphere. 0.0005% by volume, or 0.00007% by mass, of the atmosphere is helium. The total mass of the atmosphere is 5x10^18 kg, so the total mass of the helium in the atmosphere is 3.5x10^12 kg. At STP (standard temperature and pressure), that represents 2x10^13 cubic meters.

    That would fill 100 million Hindenburgs, or many trillion party balloons.

    So no, even if/when the current sources of helium run out entirely, "all research into superconductivity" will NOT have to stop. It will "just" cost more.
    The helium in the atmosphere is constantly escaping into space, and constantly being refreshed by escaping from the earth into the atmosphere. Inside the earth it is constantly being produced by nuclear processes.

    Yes, it would be far more expensive to extract helium from the atmosphere at 0.0005% concentration than it is from natural gas sources at concentrations of from 0.1% to several %. But it is glaringly obvious that it is not impossible. The concentration of neon in the atmosphere is less than four times that of helium, and ALL the neon produced is produced by extracting it from the atmosphere.

  13. Re:What about heat-assisted magnetic recording? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Funny

    What's the news on HAMR? Is it still being pursued?

    Don't stop. It's not HAMR time.

  14. Re:When can we stop selling party balloons by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Helium balloons are a minor part of the overall picture. The overwhelming majority of uses are industrial, such as cryogenics. The problem is that they don't recover it. If you want to make a big impact on the helium consumption rate, hard drives is pretty much one of the least effective places you could focus - focus on industrial recovery.

    Note that humans will never "run out" of helium. Even if we assume that space-based resource extraction becomes realistic, one can always refrigerate it out of the atmosphere. Or more accurately, refrigerate everything else out and leave the helium behind. There's only a tiny bit in the atmosphere, but for important uses it'll remain a possibility. I saw page that says that neon is $2 per liter. If you're refrigerating neon out of the atmosphere, pretty much all that's left is helium, so you're co-producing it, at a ratio of 3.5 to 1. If we assume that helium demand vastly outpaces neon demand, then the helium cost would be $7 per liter. And maybe less in mass production.

    That's not really an absurd price for many uses - such as hard drives. On the other hand, it's dramatically more than today's prices at about $0.005 per liter! You're not going to be making helium blimps at $7 per liter. But if industry learns how to recapture and reuse, they should manage.

    (Of course, humans probably wouldn't have to resort to helium extraction from the atmosphere for centuries, pretty much any gas coming out of the ground will be richer in helium than the air)

    --
    "... even though he sins so much that people cast him out of demons."
  15. Myanmar much? by tepples · · Score: 4, Funny

    If these signs / were here today / the final one / would likely say / Myanmar Shave

  16. Re:When can we stop selling party balloons by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    So how does that work?

    The helium in the atmosphere slowly dissipates into space. But it is also replenished by helium leaking out of the ground, where it is generated by radioactive elements emitting alpha particles (which are helium nuclei). At about 5.5 ppm, the source and drain are in equilibrium.