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Curiosity Rover Arrives At Long-Term Destination

Posted by Soulskill on from the now-kicking-back-and-relaxing dept.

When NASA's Curiosity rover landed on Mars, the mission team had a particular destination in mind: Mount Sharp. Just over two years and about nine kilometers of driving later, Curiosity has arrived at Mount Sharp. It will now begin its ascent of the mountain (PDF), first analyzing basal rocks with a "paintbrush" texture, then moving further to observe hematite-bearing rocks further up the slope. It will then proceed into an area laden with clay-bearing rocks, and finally to the upper reaches of the foothills, which contain rocks with magnesium sulfate in them. The team has selected routes and driving modes that they hope will slow the steadily accumulating damage to the rover's wheels.

33 comments

  1. Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Days after being excoriated for essentially failing at their primary science mission, NASA announces it arrives at Mt. Sharp despite being several miles from the actual mountain.

    1. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Excoriated?
      "All extended missions were rated higher than "Good""

    2. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people." - Socrates

    3. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Teresita · · Score: 2

      There's no sharp boundary between the plain and Mt. Sharp.

    4. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by pz · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Excoriated?

      "All extended missions were rated higher than "Good""

      Excoriated --- here are a few choice excerpts (there was some positive language, but the panel really did come down hard in this report):

      "The panel viewed this as a poor science return for such a large investment in a flagship mission."

      "Despite identification of two EM1 science objectives, the proposal lacked specific scientific questions to be answered, testable hypotheses, and proposed measurements and assessment of uncertainties and limitations."

      "It was unclear from both the proposal and presentation that the Prime Mission science goals had been met. In fact, it was unclear what exactly these were. "

      "After the presentation and subsequent discussion within the panel during executive session, other questions were formulated and then presented to the Curiosity team. Unfortunately the lead Project Scientist was not present in person for the Senior Review presentation and was only available via phone. Additionally, he was not present for the second round of Curiosity questions from the panel. This left the panel with the impression that the team felt they were too big to fail and that simply having someone show up would suffice. The panel strongly urges NASA HQ to get the Curiosity team focused on maximizing high-quality science that justifies the capabilities of and capital investment in Curiosity."

      "As Curiosity is a flagship mission, the panel was surprised by the lack of science in the EM1 proposal ..."

      "In summary, the Curiosity EM1 proposal lacked scientific focus and detail."

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    5. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by msauve · · Score: 0

      But, but.... look, shiny!

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    6. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by AJWM · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "the proposal lacked specific scientific questions to be answered, testable hypotheses, and proposed measurements and assessment of uncertainties and limitations."

      Sounds like the report was written by physicists, not geologists or biologists.

      I figure "we're going to look around, crack open a few rocks and do some chemical analyses to see what's there" is pretty good science.

      On the other hand I also wonder why in almost 40 years nobody has yet tried repeating the labeled-release experiment on Viking which tested positive per the pre-mission criteria for signs of life.

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    7. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      That would suggest they redefined the boundary after the criticism came out, like a politician would.

      Actually, I've read they were getting fairly close before the critical report even came out.

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    8. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're at the first exposure of the formation that is at the base of the mountain, the long-term goal of the mission. It's the first location they can sample the mountain rather than the crater floor since they landed. They're behind schedule on getting there because of the wheel wear issue (necessitating a slower, more carefully-planned route), and that was due to the unexpectedly rough surfaces on which they were driving. Despite that, they already sampled at Yellowknife Bay and satisfied many of the primary mission goals there.

    9. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Between the surrounding plain and the topography of Mt. Sharp, not really. The slope starts changing pretty gradually and the transition is full of a bunch of irregular mesas. But geologically there is a line on the map between the stratigraphy of the crater floor and the first stratigraphic unit on Mt. Sharp (the Murray Formation) which has been known from early in the mission. They're just at that boundary, and one of the samples they analyzed ("Bonanza King") seems to be an example of it, although they'll soon be driving on better outcrops of it.

    10. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It was unclear from both the proposal and presentation that the Prime Mission science goals had been met. In fact, it was unclear what exactly these were. "

      I can't decide whether it was just a bad presentation generally, or whether the people doing the review even read the site selection reports that oulined the reasons for going to Gale Crater in the first place, and the presenter made the mistake of assuming they already knew.

    11. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand I also wonder why in almost 40 years nobody has yet tried repeating the labeled-release experiment on Viking which tested positive per the pre-mission criteria for signs of life.

      Shush!

    12. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But isn't Socrates discussing people in that very sentence? Just sayin'...

      .

    13. Re: Knee-jerk reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Socrates was a pedo. Since you admire his line of thought, you are a suspect. Why don't you take a seat over there?

    14. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by Shadowmist · · Score: 1

      On the other hand I also wonder why in almost 40 years nobody has yet tried repeating the labeled-release experiment on Viking which tested positive per the pre-mission criteria for signs of life.

      That's not exactly the way it turned out. The test got some major initial results when it was applied than nothing. The results from Viking fit the parameters of a very reactive and toxic surface, not for the presence of life, either archival or extent.

    15. Re:Knee-jerk reaction by AJWM · · Score: 1

      It still met the pre-mission criteria for life. That the other experiments gave confusing results was a contributing factor to wondering if those criteria were correct.

      There's some indication that those other experiments weren't sensitive enough to detect life signs even in Earth soil samples from places like the Atacama desert in Chile.

      In 2003, a team of researchers published a report in the journal Science in which they duplicated the tests used by the Viking 1 and Viking 2 Mars landers to detect life, and were unable to detect any signs in Atacama Desert soil.[21] The region may be unique on Earth in this regard and is being used by NASA to test instruments for future Mars missions. The team duplicated the Viking tests in Mars-like Earth environments and found that they missed present signs of life in soil samples from Antarctic dry valleys, the Atacama Desert of Chile and Peru, and other locales.

      In 2008, the Phoenix Mars Lander detected perchlorates on the surface of Mars at the same site where water was first discovered.[23] Perchlorates are also found in the Atacama and associated nitrate deposits have contained organics, leading to speculation that signs of life on Mars are not incompatible with perchlorates.

      (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...)

      And speaking of perchlorates and the Viking biology experiments:

      On 2006, scientist Rafael Navarro demonstrated that the Viking biological experiments likely lacked sensitivity to detect trace amounts of organic compounds.[36] On a paper published in December 2010,[25] the scientists suggest that if organics were present, they would not have been detected because when the soil is heated to check for organics, perchlorate destroys them rapidly producing chloromethane and dichloromethane, which is what the Viking landers found.

      (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V...)

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  2. Call the Auto Club! by used2win32 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The rocks are damaging the wheels?
    Call the auto club and have them fix it.
    Does Curiosity have a club card?

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    1. Re:Call the Auto Club! by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: -1

      The rocks are damaging the wheels?

      Call the auto club and have them fix it.

      Does Curiosity have a club card?

      No, but it does carry The Club. So no joyriding Venusians can steal it when it's parked overnight.

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    2. Re:Call the Auto Club! by Tablizer · · Score: 1, Funny

      Your club is known as a Clue Stick.

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    3. Re:Call the Auto Club! by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 0

      That was "flamebait"???

      Looked more like an attempt at humour from where I was sitting.

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    4. Re:Call the Auto Club! by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      The rocks are damaging the wheels?

      Call the auto club and have them fix it.

      Does Curiosity have a club card?

      Flamebait?
      Overrated?
      Offtopic?

      Someone really has a hard on for this stupid buggy. Can't even let a couple jokes about it go.

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    5. Re:Call the Auto Club! by used2win32 · · Score: 1

      Ugg.... It was an attempt at humor using the "Big Bang Theory" episode where Howard gets the Mars rover stuck and Sheldon make a comment/joke about the auto club fixing it. He joked how you have to be standing next to the vehicle with the auto club card in hand. You can see it on episode eight of season two.

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    6. Re:Call the Auto Club! by used2win32 · · Score: 1

      Ugg.... It was an attempt at humor using the "Big Bang Theory" episode where Howard gets the Mars rover stuck and Sheldon make a comment/joke about the auto club fixing it. He joked how you have to be standing next to the vehicle with the auto club card in hand.

      You can see it on episode eight of season two.

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  3. 2 years and nine kilometers... by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

    So the rover is driving 2.8 miles per year.

    Obviously used to DC Traffic.

    1. Re:2 years and nine kilometers... by Richy_T · · Score: 2

      I hear it was being driven by an 80 year old Floridian.

      Apparently it had its right-turn indicator on all the way.

    2. Re:2 years and nine kilometers... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      DC traffic: bumper-to-bumper with lobbyists. Joy. I'd rather be on Mars.

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  4. We should have sent a snail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  5. Awww! by ian_mackereth · · Score: 1

    Rover gets to his forebber home!

  6. Two years? Respect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It took me ten seconds to flip my first Mars rover in Kerbal Space program so thoroughly that it couldn't get up again.

  7. Alas, poor Rover! I knew him.... by turkeydance · · Score: -1, Troll

    quarto.

  8. My cock has arrived at its long term destination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Up Soulskill's ass.

  9. Lack of planning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The team has selected routes and driving modes that they hope will slow the steadily accumulating damage to the rover's wheels. "

    Why the hell didn't they just get AAA before they left?...

  10. Spices. We sent you to find spices. by pupsocket · · Score: 1

    Not potatoes and gold.