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NASA's Manned Rocket Contract: $4.2 Billion To Boeing, $2.6 Billion To SpaceX

schwit1 writes NASA has chosen two companies to ferry astronauts to and from the International Space Station, and those companies are Boeing and SpaceX. This decision confirms that SpaceX is ready to go and gives the company the opportunity to finish the job, while also giving Boeing the chance to show that it can still compete. After NASA has certified that each company has successfully built its spacecraft, SpaceX and Boeing will each fly two to six missions. The certification process will be step-by-step, similar to the methods used in the cargo contracts, and will involve five milestones. The contracts will be paid incrementally as they meet these milestones. One milestone will be a manned flight to the ISS, with one NASA astronaut on board. Boeing will receive $4.2 billion, while SpaceX will get $2.6 billion. These awards were based on what the companies proposed and requested.

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  1. My Guess by TrippTDF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    SpaceX will make $2.6 Billion do way cooler stuff than $4.2 Billion to Boeing. SpaceX is a young, hungry company that is on the forefront of multiple industries. Boeing, while still a great company, is older an no doubt bogged down in more levels of bureaucracy.

    1. Re:My Guess by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actively funding both gives you a VERY easy way to reward and punish - simply move the needle a little either way in the next round of funding. Once you've committed to one or the other, the incumbent gets entrenched and very cozy.

  2. That's government spending for you.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Boeing - Giant Company - $4.2B for a space vehicle that is still in design.
    SpaceX - Space Startup - $2.6B for a space vehicle that works and has been flying missions for two years.

    Spend your money more wisely.

    1. Re:That's government spending for you.. by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SpaceX has promise, but Boeing has shown it can deliver.

      ...eventually, and only after the requisite pork has been spread across a multitude of states and subcontractors to keep the requisite congress-critters happy. :(

      Not to knock Boeing's technical prowess, but damn - they do know how to play the game (which explains why they're getting a piece of the contract most likely...)

      As a very apt comparison, go back to the days when the F-16 first came out: relatively cheap, by some upstart company (General Dynamics), a revolutionary design, the first 9-G capable fighter, and was an all-around workhorse that could do (within reason) damned near anything you demanded of it. It's still in production today (albeit as a division of Lockheed-Martin), with a design that stands to be around for decades to come. Compare and contrast this with, oh, the F-35/6/whatever that's been nothing but a massive money-sink to date.

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  3. Re:Six Missoins Each by Guspaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They both got essentially the same contract, the dollar value represents what the companies bid for it, rather than establishing a first/second place.

    Basically, the both won an equal contract. On the one hand, it sucks for SpaceX that they get less money to do the same thing, but on the other hand, it will put quite a feather in their cap to be able to demonstrate concretely that they can live up to their claims of doing it for less, which will give them a huge edge in the next round of contracts. Next time they can say "Look, we did everything just as well as Boeing, but we cost you a ton less. This time you should give us most of the flights."

  4. Re:I hate to be this guy... by Bodhammer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's how the war on poverty is doing: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09...

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  5. Re:I hate to be this guy... by budgenator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I feel guilty driving a newer model Honda Civic knowing that if I bought something cheaper I could maybe feed someone less fortunate.

    Oh bullshit, if you were going to feed somebody, you would just do it. The price of a Honda isn't going to keep you from send $5.00 to the soap-kitchen or UNICEF.

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  6. Re:I hate to be this guy... by clovis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's how the war on poverty is doing: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09...

    Thanks for the link, it has some numbers that show how relatively little NASA costs.

    From the article:
      The government has spent some $22 trillion on means-tested welfare programs since the War on Poverty began (in constant 2012 dollars).
    This does not include Social Security, Medicare, nor unemployment insurance.

    All of NASA's spending since 1958 totals 790 billion (inflation adjusted).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...

    This provides some data on the direct benefits of the space program:
    http://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/eco...

    Keep in mind that without the space program, there would be no DirectTV and we would be dependent upon Comcast.

  7. Re:And the speculation was completely off by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The fact that to deliver the same development and certification process costs $1.6 billion less for SpaceX over Boeing is also interesting.

    It's not the same development and certification process - as SpaceX will be flying a modification of an existing (certified) spacecraft, while Boeing's is a new and unflown design.

  8. SpaceX Minecraft by ihaveamo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow - Java Computer game licensing ... 2.5 billion, the future of America's space dreams ... 2.6 billion.

  9. Re:I hate to be this guy... by nucrash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    However, a mission to Mars would require research into food preservation which is one of the largest problems to getting food into remote areas of the world and maintaining nutritional value for the people who need to consume it. For ever argument you can throw at NASA being a waste of money, I can counter that argument with a reason why NASA improves life.

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