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Torvalds: No Opinion On Systemd

An anonymous reader writes:Linux creator Linus Torvalds is well-known for his strong opinions on many technical things. But when it comes to systemd, the init system that has caused a fair degree of angst in the Linux world, Torvalds is neutral. "When it comes to systemd, you may expect me to have lots of colorful opinions, and I just don't," Torvalds says. "I don't personally mind systemd, and in fact my main desktop and laptop both run it." Torvalds added, "I think many of the 'original ideals' of UNIX are these days more of a mindset issue than necessarily reflecting reality of the situation. There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX "do one thing and do it well" model where many workflows can be done as a pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face it, it's not how complex systems really work, and it's not how major applications have been working or been designed for a long time. It's a useful simplification, and it's still true at some level, but I think it's also clear that it doesn't really describe most of reality."

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  1. Re:well said! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure Linus is so broken up by your statement that he will have to cry himself to sleep for weeks.

  2. Re:well said! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He will but not before he pretends to be unfazed by dropping a few f-bombs on the comment thread.

  3. Torvalds is neutral by DeVilla · · Score: 4, Funny

    This may be the best endorsement for systemd yet.

  4. Re:i don't have any opinions by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Funny

    He said he didn't have any colorful opinions on it. I thought Linus couldn't make breakfast with out swearing twice.

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    Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
  5. Re:Simple set of pipelined utilties! by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

    hokey philosophies and ancient pipelines are no match for a modern java GUI IDE

    -- Han Slowmo, Unix Wars, episode IV

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  6. Re:well said! by rwise2112 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Zapp: What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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    "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert"
  7. Re:Yes, pipelined utilities, like the logs by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Funny

    I already have a program to read all logs, more or less.

    In fact, you have *two* programs to read all logs. More and less.

  8. Re:well said! by ArhcAngel · · Score: 5, Funny

    I may shock the Lemmings and Fanboys, but we don't hold up people like Linus as if they are infallible. If we think our "leaders" are full of shit, we will happily say so. We don't treat our community leaders like Kings or Popes.

    BLASPHEMY!!!
    Repent or be tormented forever by a Daemon!

    --
    "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
  9. Re:well said! by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Repent or be tormented forever by a Daemon

    by the daemon called systemd....

  10. Re:One down... by oracleofbargth · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought his cat already had a point and click interface. The button is on the laser pointer.