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An Open Source Pitfall? Mozilla Labs Closed, Quietly

mikejuk writes with this excerpt: When Google Labs closed there was an outcry. How could an organization just pull the rug from under so many projects? At least Google announced what it was doing. Mozilla, it seems since there is no official record, just quietly tiptoes away — leaving the lights on since the Mozilla Labs Website is still accessible. It is accessible but when you start to explore the website you notice it is moribund with the last blog post being December 2013 with the penultimate one being September 2013. The fact that it is gone is confirmed by recent blog posts and by the redeployment of the people who used to run it. The projects that survived have been moved to their own websites. It isn't clear what has happened to the Hatchery -the incubator that invited new ideas from all and sundry. One of the big advantages of open source is the ease with which a project can be started. One of the big disadvantages of open source is the ease with which projects can be allowed to die — often without any clear cut time of death. It seems Mozilla applies this to groups and initiatives as much as projects. This isn't good. The same is true at companies that aren't open source centric, though, too, isn't it?

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  1. what is this even talking about? by shadowrat · · Score: 5, Informative

    How can open source software die? the source is there! Anyone interested in the software has had ample time to get the source. All mozilla or google or any other service is doing is providing some hosting for the git repository. clone it and save it if you care that much about the software. Wringing your hands that and crying all is lost just says you are doing open source wrong.

    1. Re:what is this even talking about? by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Funny

      By contrast, if you wanted to resurrect, say, WinCE? Well, good luck with that.

      Which just goes to show that sometimes closed-source is truly for the best.

    2. Re:what is this even talking about? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 4, Funny

      By contrast, if you wanted to resurrect, say, WinCE?

      Have you ever considered a career pitching horror movies to Hollywood studios?

    3. Re:what is this even talking about? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 4, Funny

      "The revenant's eyes were a deep, cold blue. As it shambled ever closer, he could smell the rot of outdated drivers and decaying DLLs. As its cold unfeeling fingers closed around his throat, he could just make out the secret truth written inside those dead blue eyes..."

      "A fatal exception OE has occurred at 0028:C02A0948 IN VXD VWIN32. The current application will be terminated."

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      "Mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent present in every electron." -Freeman Dyson
  2. Slight difference by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was an outcry when Google Labs closed because people actually used stuff that came from there. Mozilla Labs, on the other hand...

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    #DeleteChrome
  3. No suprise... by guygo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems to be the way things work with the Mozilla crew. Look at the "progress" of the Thunderbird project. For over a decade people have been complaining about its inability to accurately render html, yet that problem still exists in the software today. No one wants to work on the un-sexy nuts and bolts stuff; everybody wants to be the guy who wrote the flashy new UI. Kinda difficult to do anything about it when you can't fire someone and hire a decent replacement.

  4. Pitfall! by Ultra64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And here I was expecting an Open Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitfall!. How disappointing.

  5. Proprietary project die, too by UnderCoverPenguin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In my professional career, several projects I have worked on have been canceled despite a good state - not behind schedule nor over budget, or even ahead of schedule and/or under budget. The reasons were usually variations from "marketing has decided to change direction" to "after management re-org, the new managers decided the risks were too high". The latter happened to one project despite us having 5 fully and correctly operating prototypes, and having invested 3 person-years of effort and over half a million US dollars in development tools and licensing of third party libraries. Another project was canceled because the primary stakeholder lost interest despite the first two phases being highly successful.

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    Don't try to out wierd me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you, free with my breakfast cereal. --Zaphod Beeblebr
  6. Thunderbird too by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They announced that they killed Thunderbird too several months after the fact. It was months and months after the latest update, suddenly they're like "Oh yeah, that? We're done with that." Outlook sucks, Windows Live mail sucks, Incredemail is a disease, and Eudora is dead as well. There are a grand total of zero good e-mail programs out there now. What were they thinking?
    Actually, they announced what they were thinking. They're focusing on making new versions of Firefox every single month for no reason and causing massive crash glitches, incompatibilities with webpages, and an all out war with Flash player as well as a go-nowhere phone OS project. Great choice! But what would you expect from a company that gets over 90% of its money from Google, who makes a competing product.

    1. Re:Thunderbird too by McDutchie · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thunderbird is not dead at all, it's just been relegated to community maintenance mode (like SeaMonkey has always been). There was a lot of press blather about how that amounted to the "death" of Thunderbird, meanwhile its users are happily downloading security updates with the occasional new feature, and continuing to use a relatively stable program. Considering what they're doing to Firefox, I think this is a good thing.