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Putin To Discuss Plans For Disconnecting Russia From the Internet

New submitter GlowingCat writes: Russian President Vladimir Putin and several high-ranking officials will discuss the security of the Russian segment of the Internet at the meeting of the Russian Security Council next week. According to various reports, the officials will make a number of decisions about regulating the use of the Internet in Russia. This includes the ability to cut off the Russian Internet, known as Runet, from the outside world, in case of emergency.

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  1. Imagine how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... every multiplayer game experience would improve overnight if they did this.
    Captcha: Repress

  2. Please go ahead and di it Mr. Putin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He would be doing the world a favor by removing a very large number of hackers, phishers and virus kiddies from the net.

    Please cut them off as soon as possible!!

    1. Re:Please go ahead and di it Mr. Putin by fisted · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This being modded +5 Insightful is truly pathetic.

  3. In case of emergency by anmre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In case of emergency

    Emergency for Putin or Russian citizens? I can't think of any possible scenario which can be called an emergency where I personally would benefit from having _less_ information.

    I'm disgusted that people like Putin are actually of the same species as myself.

    1. Re:In case of emergency by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can you think of a scenario which can be called an emergency where you would benefit from protection from malicious misinformation?

      Think hard.

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      -1 Uncomfortable Truth
    2. Re:In case of emergency by neoritter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In case of war. Cut access to the internet and cyber attacks from enemy nations becomes harder.

    3. Re:In case of emergency by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can you think of a scenario which can be called an emergency where you would benefit from protection from malicious misinformation?

      Think hard.

      No.

      I can think of situations where providing accurate information from a more trusted source would protect me from "misinformation," but I can't think of any emergency or security situation where I would benefit from being cut off from [alleged] misinformation.

      Just because people disagree with you, doesn't mean they didn't think "hard" enough. I always wonder though, what sort of people think that thinking is like lifting weights, where you can do it "harder." I mean, an intelligent person just thinks. It just happens. Trying to think "harder" means being distracted by some goal, and that doesn't improve the thinking process. If I think about the most difficult chess tournaments I competed in, my best wins against stronger opponents, I wasn't thinking "harder." I was thinking more easily.

  4. Re:OH NOES! by LifesABeach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would the Russian Mafia take this loss of income personally?

  5. Cut Russia off in an 'Emergency' by quietwalker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Looking out there at other countries use of this sort of power, the only thing it's ever been used for is to crush political opposition including peaceful protests, and to hide government abuse at the time it's happening.

  6. Re:The US already had this power for a long time by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except they don't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

    Not all root servers are in the US. Not all root servers are controlled by US companies/government agencies. And there is nothing preventing a cut of potion of the Internet/group of ISPs to route any or all of the these IPs to their own DNS servers.

    The still control the majority of the routing. They can cripple the internet any time they want and they can get their loyal partners in europe to follow suit.

    This is the kind of control that exists by consensus though.

    The reason that half of Europe and Asia go along with the US, is that at some level most US policies around things like the Internet tend to make sense. I don't care for the intrusive surveillance, but when you look at it at a national level the US comes along, installs a bunch of gear, and likely shares all the data obtained from it with the country that gave them access (I doubt they give them access to everything internationally, but I wouldn't be surprised if a small country could get more data on what is on their own networks by collaborating with the US than trying to do it themselves, and for the most part their interests are aligned with the US on the sort of stuff they'd be looking for anyway).

    The US can't just arbitrarily enact some kind of lasting blockade on the internet, because they wouldn't have the support on the ground to do that.

    Now, the US could exercise control over data travelling through undersea cables that cross its territories, and when it comes to the Pacific I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of those (as a result of WWII). Land routes from Europe to Asia, however, are probably fairly free from US direct control.

  7. Re:Yikes by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nope, it most certainly is not.
    All I can see here is the Soviet Union rising again. I grew up around the fringes (outside) and somehow it seems worse this time around.
    Want a laugh? The Scottish Referendum and the Soviet observers are mouthing off that the whole affair was not "free and fair", that it had been manipulated.

    This Vlad is sick of this garbage. Oh, and I was in the Ukraine a couple of months back. They have a right-wing lunatic fringe running at around 5% but most of them do not deserve this crud.

    --
    Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect.
  8. What could possibly go wrong by gnu-sucks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People forget how much we depend on the internet for basic things. (Writing from a USA perspective).

    Without the internet, suddenly all the Cisco phones can't check in daily. The windows computers freeze up during windows update (imagine if he flips the switch *during* an update), cash registers can't authenticate credit cards, most iPhone apps fail (maps!)...

    Is Russia as internet-dependent as we are?

  9. What would we lose if... by kylemonger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... we just disconnected Russia from the Internet right now?

  10. Re:"Emergency" by MightyYar · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think "Russia is acting like it is 1934" is fairly accurate.

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    W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
  11. Re:"Emergency" by obreiro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Indeed. All countries have regulations and laws in order to control cirtually EVERYTHING during a war. From a curfew to kill people or modify laws.
    Russia would not be different. This is not news

  12. Re: by Mr.CRC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In what country?

    In my country, that bastion of freedom known as the USA, they simply take your fucking money and your property whenever they want, just by saying you got it from drugs. It doesn't matter if it's illegal, or contrary to the 5th amendment, because that's just a stupid old piece of paper. And besides, they get to decide what words mean.

  13. Re:Modpoints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The historical posting from April 1 and a phone number to match the date? It's entertaining at least.

  14. Re: by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and often when the police's case falls apart and ends in a non-conviction they keep your stuff anyway. "Civil forfeiture" should be considered unconstitutional...if we moved back in time to the Colonial days this is the EXACT same thing the British were doing that lead to the War of Independence. Illegal seizures, no viable recourse, stealing property without rule of law or real proof of wrong-doing...when a DA does "civil forfeiture" they are considering the "property" itself guilty, as if your house or car has a intelligent consciousness that knows the difference between right and wrong and could have chosen not to be involved somehow. It costs at least $10K to take it to court, so the cops know if they take less than that it's not worth it. And since your property is being charged (not you) then it's considered "guilty until proven innocent", you have to pay for the lawyer, and you have to meet a higher standard of proving absolutely no drugs were ever involved (even before you owned it)

    PBS article