Mark Zuckerberg Throws Pal Joe Green Under the Tech Immigration Bus

theodp (442580) writes "A month after he argued that Executive Action by President Obama on tech immigration was needed lest his billionaire bosses at Mark Zuckerberg's FWD.us PAC have to hire 'just sort of OK' U.S. workers, Re/code reports that Joe Green — Zuckerberg's close friend and college roommate — has been pushed out of his role as President of FWD.us for failing to Git-R-Done on an issue critical to the tech community. "Today, we wanted to share an important change with you," begins 'Leadership Change', the announcement from the FWD.us Board that Todd Schulte is the new Green. So what sold FWD.us on Schulte? "His [Schulte's] prior experience as Chief-of-Staff at Priorities USA, the Super PAC supporting President Obama's re-election," assured Zuckerberg in a letter to FWD.us contributors, "will ensure FWD.us continues its momentum for reform." Facebook, reported the Washington Post in 2013, became legally "dependent" on H-1B visas and subject to stricter regulations shortly before Zuckerberg launched FWD.us with Green at the helm."

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Mark Zuckerberg is a liar.

[Anonymous Coward]

Zuckerberg is also a traitor to the American tech worker.

Hey, Mark, MSFT just laid off 18,000 people; Cisco just laid off a bunch; MSFT just the other day closed its research center right down the street from you - filled with gifted coders and brilliance. Mark, there is a MOUND of studies showing NO shortage of STEM works in the US.

Some facts: The H-1B fiasco has cost Americans **$10TRILLION** dollars, since 1975. For anyone who wants to know the truth, read on.

One of the most respected technology pundits in Silicon Valley has this to say about the H1-B worker problem http://www.cringely.com/2012/1... Here's an attorney and his consultants teaching corporations how to manipulate foreign-worker immigration law to replace qualified American workers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

H1-B abuse if accompanied by other worker-visa abuse L-1 Visa (H1-B's are only the tip of the iceberg). There are more than 20 categories of foreign worker visas. http://economyincrisis.org/con...

Professor Norman Matloff's extremely well documented studies on this problem. http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/...

Federal offshoring of healthcare.gov website http://www.economicpopulist.or...

How H1-B visa abuse is hurting American tech workers http://www.motherjones.com/pol...

There is no stem worker crisis in America http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-wo...

Marc Zuckerberg and wealthy tech scions continue to perpetuate this trend http://programmersguild.org/do...

Yahoo http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs...

Also, little known is the tactic of creating many different kinds of sub-visa categories to "fool the system". There are almost TWENTY different kinds of work visas. The whole thing is a sham and a lie, designed to drag down wages and keep from having to re-train Americans. Never thought I would see this day!

Some of the information presented in the following links will shock most Americans, because American corporate leaders don't want us to know the truth, and they are paying off policy makers with contributions to keep the truth from us. Bill Gates, John Chambers, Mark Zuckerberg, Eric Schmidt, and many, many others - including the principals of the most prominent immigration law firms, who profit from this outrage, are lying through their teeth. There is NO shortage of STEM workers in the US!!

Last, Zuckerberg has all out lied since day 1 about guaranteeing privacy on Facebook - just outright lied. Facebook has become something that teens shun and will soon go the way of MSFT, run by another deceiver, Bill Gates, on the H1-B issue.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg is a liar.

[Anonymous Coward]

I am an immigrant working in US on H1-B. Every time I see these stories, I know what comments there will be, but I'm getting tired of all the whining and bullshit.

First of all, on the "poor underpayed H1-B" myth. I live and work in Seattle metro area. My base pay is $150k, and then another $40k on top of that in bonuses. This is after being with the company I'm at for slightly over 3 years. And I work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, none of those crazy 60-hour work weeks. I have a fancy house, drive an expensive car, and even after mortage, property tax etc have enough left to support my family by myself, allowing my wife (an American citizen, by the way) to be a stay at home mom - and even then still have some left for my 401k and other savings. To sum it up, as an H1-B I live better than 9 out of 10 Americans do even here in Seattle, much less across the country.

Now you guys say two things. First, that I'm "stealing your job". I'll be blunt: in the current IT job market, if you can't find a job, then either you are living in the wrong place, or (if you're in one of the tech hubs), you plain suck. I know some people hit by Microsoft layoffs: they were immediately snagged by Google and Amazon. It's a seller's market: a good developer today in US can walk out of the door and literally find a job elsewhere tomorrow. If you can't find a job, that's not because some H1-B "stole" it. It's because you're not good enough, and your expectations are too high.

Speaking of expectations. One other thing that's often brought up is that H1-Bs "depress the wage" - as in, if we weren't here, you'd be paid more. Is that so? Well yes, of course it is, artificial scarcity (of labor, in this case) raises prices. But why do you believe you're entitled to even higher wages? You can certainly get the same wage as I do (if you're as good as I am) - and that gives you an extremely comfortable life, compared to vast majority of your fellow countrymen. With some prudent fiscal planning and the right investments, you can retire at 65 with over a million in the bank, and a house that you fully own - a luxury that most cannot even dream of.

Yet you still have an audacity to complain that it's too little? You think you deserve more? But you don't have a determination to actually go and make yourself better to achieve that, no. You want someone else to stop competing with you so that you can just have it.

You are sour whiners and losers, and that's why I can "steal" your job, and will keep on "stealing" it, while you will inhabiting your mom's basement, while posting inane ramblings on Slashdot about how you're being repressed by all those filthy smelly foreigners.

Re:Dissolution of the middle class!

[sabri]

If you're even remotely presentable and capable of basic human interaction, you cannot not have a job in the Bay area, even if you're completely freaking clueless.

Actually, I kind of have to agree with you here. Yesterday I had a friend over who worked in the same team as I did for a large vendor of telecommunications equipment. For years (at least 5), there was one guy who was completely and utterly useless, did not perform and could not even complete the most basic tasks by himself. I always thought he had some compromising images of his boss or something similar that prevented him from being fired.

Turns out the guy was hired by a startup recently. I thought that would be unimaginable, but then I realized that I was mistaken. He is very well-spoken, has a nice personality and if you don't have to work with him, he is generally a good guy to have a beer with. It's just that he is useless as a tech worker IMHO. Oh, and if you read this: no offense :)

Re:Stop using Facebook

[Attila Dimedici]

Dick Cheney brought us the current mess. He set the bar. W was just his sock-puppet.

Oh yeah, that makes sense. The son of a former President, former CIA Director, grandson of a U.S. Senator, and great-grandson of one of the 19th centuries rail barons was merely a sock puppet serving the interests of the son of a minor bureaucrat with the Department of Agriculture. You know, people should look at the nature of history before they start building conspiracy theories.