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FBI Chief: Apple, Google Phone Encryption Perilous

An anonymous reader writes The FBI is concerned about moves by Apple and Google to include encryption on smartphones. "I like and believe very much that we should have to obtain a warrant from an independent judge to be able to take the contents," FBI Director James Comey told reporters. "What concerns me about this is companies marketing something expressly to allow people to place themselves beyond the law." From the article: "Comey cited child-kidnapping and terrorism cases as two examples of situations where quick access by authorities to information on cellphones can save lives. Comey did not cite specific past cases that would have been more difficult for the FBI to investigate under the new policies, which only involve physical access to a suspect's or victim's phone when the owner is unable or unwilling to unlock it for authorities."

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  1. Dear FBI and Police forces by Virtucon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Fuck off, I don't give you permission to download my phone contents nor do I give you permission ICE agents to copy my laptop contents. The information on my devices belongs to me and not to you. If you have a suspicion of a crime and need my data, get a warrant fucksticks!

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    Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
  2. Re:Rich like the Twinkie Filling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I'm sitting in a _public_ court room, and the judge order I hand over the keys -- sure, he can have them. Everyone else can fuck off until that day.

  3. Re:...allow people to place themselves beyond the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sure about that?

    Citation: Know Your Rights!

    If the police ask for my encryption keys or passwords, do I have to turn them over?
    A: No. The police can't force you to divulge anything. However, a judge or a grand jury may be able to. The Fifth Amendment protects you from being forced to give the government self-incriminating testimony. If turning over an encryption key or password triggers this right, not even a court can force you to divulge the information. But whether that right is triggered is a difficult question to answer. If turning over an encryption key or password will reveal to the government information it does not have (such as demonstrating that you have control over files on a computer), there is a strong argument that the Fifth Amendment protects you. If, however, turning over passwords and encryption keys will not incriminate you, then the Fifth Amendment does not protect you. Moreover, even if you have a Fifth Amendment right that protects your encryption keys or passwords, a grand jury or judge may still order you to disclose your data in an unencrypted format under certain circumstances. If you find yourself in a situation where the police are demanding that you turn over encryption keys or passwords, let EFF know.

  4. Re:Think of the children by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I like how he tries to make out encryption as though it were illegal or should be illegal, claiming it can ONLY be used by people "to place themselves beyond the law". Uh uh, sort of like how the FBI and his buddies in the NSA and CIA have placed themselves beyond the law.

    I know Jimmy boy won't ever read this, but I only have two words for him: CRY MOAR

  5. Re:Rich like the Twinkie Filling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "I'm sorry, your honor, but my client is under no obligation to teach you the language that he used to write in his notebook."

  6. Next: E2E voice encryption by russotto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah, Director Cormey, I'm sure you like the current procedure where you just obtain a warrant from an "independent" magistrate, a.k.a former prosecutor R. Stamp, even after the fact if you need to. Especially if you can do it based on an "anonymous tip" courtesy of your buddies over in the NSA. I'm sure that makes you feel good when you put on your Judge Dredd costume and run around a hotel bedroom screaming "I AM THE LAW" (BTW the "escort" you hired to watch this performance isn't REALLY impressed, you know)

    Too bad. Enough abuses by criminals and governments (but I repeat myself) have finally gotten the encryption idea going, even among corporate behemoths. Next will be end-to-end encryption of voice as a matter of course. What will you ever do when you can't just touch a key and listen to anything you want? You might have to do some actual... work!

  7. Re:Rich like the Twinkie Filling by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is no trial or sentence for Contempt. They just lock you up until you comply.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court#In_use_today
    One guy spent 14 years behind bars.
    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=8101209

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    You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
  8. Re:Wisdom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    “The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.” --Confucius

    FBI Director James Commie.

    We are already living in an "inverted totalitarian state". I quote:

    Inverted totalitarianism differs from classical forms of totalitarianism, which revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader, and finds its expression in the anonymity of the corporate state. The corporate forces behind inverted totalitarianism do not, as classical totalitarian movements do, boast of replacing decaying structures with a new, revolutionary structure. They purport to honor electoral politics, freedom and the Constitution. But they so corrupt and manipulate the levers of power as to make democracy impossible.

    There has been a slow motion coup d'etat over the past number of years. Private oligarchical corporations have won. They now openly bribe congressmen, write laws, and underwrite our new NSA surveillance state. You can vote for who you want. It may make some small difference. But you will not substantially influence the levers of power by simply voting.

    This FBI leader is just a mouthpiece for the surveillance state. I don't trust anything he says.

  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Interesting

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  10. Re:Maybe if they didn't abuse by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Obama is to blame for everything bad and previous governments did nothing wrong.

    I don't give shit about previous governments. Fuck Bush! He's history... Obama is to blame for what the present government is doing now... Get it?? He was elected president to be responsible, and dammit, he sure is!

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  11. Muh childrens by Ash-Fox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Comey cited child-kidnapping and terrorism cases as two examples of situations where quick access by authorities to information on cellphones can save lives.

    From the article.

    Hmm, where have I seen something like this before... Oh wait, I know!

    The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.

    -- Hitler, Mein Kampf

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