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Scientists Seen As Competent But Not Trusted By Americans

cold fjord writes The Woodrow Wilson School reports, "If scientists want the public to trust their research suggestions, they may want to appear a bit 'warmer,' according to a new review published by Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. The review, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), shows that while Americans view scientists as competent, they are not entirely trusted. This may be because they are not perceived to be friendly or warm. In particular, Americans seem wary of researchers seeking grant funding and do not trust scientists pushing persuasive agendas. Instead, the public leans toward impartiality. 'Scientists have earned the respect of Americans but not necessarily their trust,' said lead author Susan Fiske, the Eugene Higgins Professor of Psychology and professor of public affairs. 'But this gap can be filled by showing concern for humanity and the environment. Rather than persuading, scientists may better serve citizens by discussing, teaching and sharing information to convey trustworthy intentions.'"

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  1. Fox News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fox news goes on and on to perpetuate the idea that scientists would rather be shamed and discredited by releasing junk science to receive grant money than be honored as brilliant to discover something profound. I swear those people are nitwits.

    1. Re:Fox News? by lorenlal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ^^This

      The fact that a good chunk of the population has been repeatedly fed that scientists are every bit as corrupt as the politicians (and ironically enough, the big money backers) that they'd compromise their standards for cash has done more damage than and lack of personability or "warmness."

    2. Re:Fox News? by cranky_chemist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not just Fox. It's a problem with journalists in general.

      Journalists are taught to present "both sides" of a story. This approach, however, leads to journalists giving charlatans "equal time." Thus, the public wrongly assumes that scientists must be split 50/50 on important issues like climate change. The reality, of course, is that the split is far closer to 99/1 than to 50/50.

      The REAL underlying problem is that journalists don't know enough science to be able to spot a crackpot when they see/hear one.

    3. Re:Fox News? by Immerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >The REAL underlying problem is that journalists don't know enough science to be able to spot a crackpot when they see/hear one.

      Don't know, or don't *care*? The major media outlets in this country are all controlled by a very small group of very powerful people with definite agendas, who then send a message down the heirarchy about what kind of behavior is expected. Things like "fair and balanced" reporting of largely one-sided issues is almost certainly one of those things. People who don't trust science are far easier to manipulate after all, regardless of your agenda.

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    4. Re:Fox News? by bickerdyke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh and how they care! But they care for controversity. A panel discussion with all participants agreeing would sink the ratings.

      "Fair and balanced" is not a reminder that you have to hear multiple viewpoints, but an excuse to pit them up agains each other for maximum drama.

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    5. Re:Fox News? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, you're mistaking intelligence and expertise. I'm a very intelligent person(yeah yeah, everyone thinks this, especially on the internet), but I wouldn't even remotely confuse that for the expertise in any arbitrary field I only have a passing knowledge of that other people have developed for decades. I understand calculus based physics pretty well, and the premises of quantum mechanics pretty well for a layman, but I wouldn't pretend I have the expertise to design a supercollider experiment.

      I wouldn't trust myself to make an accurate medical diagnosis of anything. I wouldn't even think of representing myself in court(except maybe small claims).

      So when my Doctor says "Take these pills" I might have curiosity about what they do, learn what I can about them, but I'm not going to "You don't know more than me!" If my lawyer says "No, seriously, plead no contest, it's not worth it", I might ask what the risks are and why not "Not guilty", but I'm not going to pretend to have the familiarity with the court system, and judges, and juries, and the results of similar cases that he does.

      It's not a "need to be led", but the recognition of human limitations. You can only get so much from reading in your spare time. You can only manage to be a true expert in about 5-10 things in your lifetime, and that's if you spend literally all your time becoming an expert in those things.

    6. Re:Fox News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You mean the corruption that was quickly discredited? That corruption? Working as designed. Try as they may, the climate scientists can't be discredited. Fox refuses to acknowledge that.

    7. Re:Fox News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      False equivalence. Although equal airtime for all views is silly, Fox intentionally distorts facts and dialog to fit their agenda. WMD's in Iraq? A certainty, well after all the other news outlets have given up on that. Obama a Muslim? Obama not an American citizen (even though the fact that his mother is one made him one). How long did they go on and on about that? Obama a weak socialist tyrant? (How does that even work?) Their news is opinion and their opinion is whatever is the opposite of Obama. It's a crying fucking shame. We need a decent opposition party.

  2. SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by lesincompetent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I pity USA scientists. It must be hard to live and work in a country where the powers that be turned all facts into opinions.

  3. Science is not about trust by dave314159259 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Science is about reproducible results. Publish the details of your experiment, so I can perform your experiment (and variations on it) myself. Your claim is strengthened if I get the same results you do.

  4. Scientists don't *NEED* to be trusted! by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The entire goddamn point of science is that you prove the theory using experiment, publish a paper explaining what you did and how you did it, and then anybody else [who is competent] can go read the paper and reproduce similar results for themselves.

    The real issue here is the part I put in square brackets as an aside: "anybody [who is competent]." It's true that if you're not competent then you need to trust something. But what you need to trust is not the individual scientists themselves, but rather that competent people will, as a group, follow the process and weed out the disproven theories.

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  5. Re:Americans are smart. by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    True, but when it comes down to it, I'll trust a scientists' word about something scientific over a celebrity's word or a preacher's word.

    For example, Scientist A, a respected immunologist, says that vaccines prevent disease and are good. Celebrity M, a former Playboy model, says they're filled with icky stuff and should be banned. Too many Americans would listen to the celebrity over the scientist or give their views equal weight when there is no comparison: The scientist should win out.

    For another example, Scientist B, a geologist, says that the evidence points to the Earth being 4.54 billion years. Preacher Z claims that the Bible says it is only 10,000 years old. Again, too many Americans would either give them equal weight or would side with the preacher.

    Avoiding the authority fallacy is a good thing, but this doesn't mean that a person's knowledge of a field should be disregarded in all cases.

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  6. Intelligent Leaders verses Intelligent Scientists by nucrash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An intelligent leader does not need to be a scientist, however, an intelligent leader needs to be scientifically literate. I feel that the lack of scientific literacy and statistical literacy as a whole has created a great gap between understanding what is going on and trusting people who have the bests interests of the people at heart. However, some exceptions exist. I honestly feel Pope Francis has been one of the best leaders of the Catholic church in the last century. I don't know if he will exceed Pope John Paul II or not, but in a short time, he has undone a lot of damage that his predecessor did. I feel his scientific background has assisted in this.

    On top of that, we have an economy built on short term gains. This has created a lot of negative perceptions on things that need to be done. We can't push alternative energy because we will destroy the economy, but China and Germany have been doing just that and their economies are booming.

    Sadly, what we are being told by this study is that our researchers need a PR team. Everyone can imagine what that will do to the cost of research and development. On a positive note, we might now have justification for employing the people who spent all of that time getting marketing degrees.

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