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Verizon Wireless Caves To FCC Pressure, Says It Won't Throttle 4G Users

MetalliQaZ writes Verizon Wireless was scheduled to begin throttling certain LTE users today as part of an expanded "network optimization" program, but has decided not to follow through with the controversial plan after criticism from Federal Communications Commission Chairman Tom Wheeler. All major carriers throttle certain users when cell sites get too congested, but Wheeler and consumer advocates objected to how carriers choose which customers to throttle. The fact that Verizon was throttling only unlimited data users showed that it was trying to boost its profits rather than implementing a reasonable network management strategy, Wheeler said.

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  1. what's this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A sensible decision from the FCC ?
    Next you're gonna tell me they decided against the fast lanes?

    1. Re:what's this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      These fuckers just can't stomach the fact that I'm still on an unlimited data plan.

  2. Throttle, indeed by Wootery · · Score: 4, Funny

    Verizon confirms new 'strangulation' policy.

  3. Re:English is so wonderful flexible. by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wouldn't be surprised if you told me that Verizon execs were carried around on golden chariots carried by starved eunuch slave children.

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  4. 4G is Losing to Wifi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is really just a PR spin on desperation. Verizon can't afford to alienate 4G users, they invested heavily in 4G (and dumped all new fios investments) because they thought 4G would be a cash cow. But all the data caps and throttling they've done have chased customers to free wifi hotspots and there ain't no reason to come back.

    1. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not PR spin. They're not allowed to throttle LTE service for grandfathered unlimited accounts. It's part of the agreement they made with the government when they bought the 700Mhz spectrum. They were probably hoping everyone had forgotten.

    2. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by kiphat · · Score: 2

      +1 if I had mod-points. That was an interesting read. I knew that shit would back-fire. Just like the damn cable companies and their bullshit price-gouging will eventually bite them in the ass.

    3. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 2

      It's not PR spin. They're not allowed to throttle LTE service for grandfathered unlimited accounts. It's part of the agreement they made with the government when they bought the 700Mhz spectrum. They were probably hoping everyone had forgotten.

      What were the terms of that agreement, exactly? Because they sold the 700Mhz spectrum they bought to T-Mobile for $2.4 billion. Are they still bound by the terms of that auction, even though they no longer hold the fruits of that auction?

    4. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 3, Informative

      As far as I know, they only sold their A and B blocks and still have the C blocks that they bought.

    5. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by Dynedain · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately it hasn't stopped AT&T from throttling the speeds of their grandfathered unlimited plans. If you go over 2GB of data in a month, they throttle you to Edge speeds.

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    6. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by supremebob · · Score: 2

      I'd imagine that this problem will eventually resolve itself, as Verizon isn't letting users keep their $30 a month Unlimited data plans when they get a new phone on contract.

      Sure, some people are willing to pay $750 for their shiny new iPhone 6 to keep their unlimited plan, but I'll bet that most rather get it for $199 on a new contract and get downgraded to a 2 GB plan.

    7. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      They do throttle, but the threshold is 5GB. http://www.att.com/esupport/da...

      They also claim to only reduce speeds during network congestion (deprioritizing your traffic, essentially). In practice, I haven't noticed any slowdown. YMMV.

    8. Re:4G is Losing to Wifi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, and then you pay more in the long run because the 2gb plan actually costs more than keeping your old unlimited. Amortized over two years (average life of the phone) costs $10 more than my existing voice + unlimited data, plus an extra $15/month if you go over your cap (assuming you use 2.1gb every month) comes out to $240 more for just the plan + $360 for overages + $200 you paid for your phone = $800. Far under the $600 price tag for the brand new GS4 I bought over a year ago. For me, paying retail price for the phone was a more cost effective option.

  5. I wonder how he is... by mikeiver1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder how he is going to be coming down on net neutrality? Anyone care to bet that it will be on the side of the internet providers? Give us a little sugar and then fuck us up the poop shoot!

    1. Re:I wonder how he is... by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, he didn't actually do anything regarding throttling except to voice disapproval. As someone else mentioned, making noise and taking action are two different things, and so far he's really only done the former. It's an improvement over past chairmen, perhaps, but not something we should necessarily be satisfied with.

  6. Damnit Wheeler by Yakasha · · Score: 2

    I want to hate you! Stop being so fucking reasonable!

  7. Thanks Wheeler by allquixotic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I still dislike most of the political rhetoric coming out of Verizon and Verizon Wireless, I have to concede that this is a huge benefit for me personally. I'm an unlimited 4G customer who uses my phone as my primary Internet connection (I pay an extra $30/month for the privilege of "legally" tethering via the built-in Mobile Hotspot app that comes standard with Android; the app is disabled if you don't pay up).

    It's plenty fast enough for my needs, even when the network is congested. It's a perfectly viable primary Internet connection, with native IPv6, and can be shared with desktops, laptops, smart devices, tablets, and other phones using 802.11ac, Bluetooth, or USB RNDIS.

    I'm perfectly fine with being temporarily slowed down if the tower I'm on is congested. All they have to do is use a fair queue algorithm, not too dissimilar to what the Linux kernel's I/O scheduler does. But what was being proposed was to single out unlimited data users who use more than a certain amount of data, and slow them down artificially even more than everyone else.

    I think this brought me back from the brink of having to face the prospect of getting ADSL or cable again. The problem with these services, in my area at least, is that every time we've ever tried them, they prove to have about a 50% uptime. That is to say, they're very intermittently available. They may not go down for 2 weeks at a stretch every month, but you'll certainly experience 10, 20, or 30 different 2 or 3 minute dropout periods during the course of a single day; sometimes the dropouts are longer, and sometimes there are more or less of them. I experience nothing of the sort with LTE.

    While it would take the construction of many more towers in suburban and urban areas to be able to offer *every* customer unlimited data on LTE (or even to increase the typical monthly cap from around 2 GB to around 200 GB), and some people think that it would require the construction of "too many" towers, I'm still glad that this decision benefits me.

    I'm certainly not going to become a Verizon Wireless booster, singing their praises on high; but this gives me a little respite from the endless barrage of anti-consumer laws and corporate practices that have been coming down the pipe lately.

    A little bit of sanity goes a long way, in this case. For me and thousands of others who still have unlimited data.