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FCC Puts Comcast and Time Warner Merger On Hold

An anonymous reader writes "In a public letter to both Time Warner and Comcast, the FCC said they are putting a hold on the merger deal between the two companies. Citing inadequate responses by both cable companies to earlier FCC requests for additional information, the agency is stopping the clock on its 180-day review period until late October. Comcast and Time Warner together control most of the Internet services in the country. However, the companies said they are in different regions and are not going to suppress the competition.

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  1. All Slashdotters in favor of the merger... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    ...please raise your hands.

    Anybody? /didn't think so

    1. Re:All Slashdotters in favor of the merger... by knightghost · · Score: 3, Interesting

      100%? What was I thinking?!? No, just 99% and the merger is almost all cons. Totally disregardable.

    2. Re:All Slashdotters in favor of the merger... by DexterIsADog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can you name any pros for consumers? Do you believe what Comcast says about needing to get larger because their margins are too small?

      Is it a good thing that the merger would raise the barrier to entry of any part of the larger market that Comcast would control?

      Please, I'd like to know what you think is a good reason for this merger to go forward.

    3. Re:All Slashdotters in favor of the merger... by TWX · · Score: 2

      I believe the word as used is "Synergy", which is Orwellian double-speak for eliminating anything perceived as redundant in the now-merged company. This means layoffs usually, and things like technical support and customer service tend to be significantly reduced in the process. If Time Warner's customer service is functioning decently now, the formerly Time Warner customers will see a significant reduction in the quality of the customer service post-merger. Likewise, the already terrible customer service that Comcast customers face will be even worse as the helpdesk now has to learn how to deal with two systems, Comcast's and Time Warner's, and this will slow down call flow.

      On top of that, as separate companies, one of them could decide to try to expand operations into the other's area, as competition. Granted that's more difficult with things like cables or fiber, but in my neck of the woods, the local phone company, the local cable company, AT&T, and probably a couple of other entities own fiber in the ground or on the poles, there's more opportunity for players in the market than just the phone company or just the cable company. People need to stop thinking in terms of just two players.

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    4. Re:All Slashdotters in favor of the merger... by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      Cons for the consumer? Let's start with controlling the gateway. You want to reach our 288 million people (we don't care about the 20 odd million out in podunk that costs too much to reach and they don't shop anyways) you pay us. We also own content, but our content doesn't have to pay to be seen. Yours, however, will. We don't like Netflix, Amazon, etc competing with us - so the interconnects will be sized to 1Mbps unless you guessed it - they pay us.

      That's just the first thing I can see happening, as they are already doing some of this.

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  2. Time to give more politicians free cable tv and HS by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    Time to give more politicians free cable tv and HSI.

    Just don't piss off the sports fans who have Directv with it's way more HD. But maybe Comcast this your wake up call to get moving on that part.

  3. Comcast & Warner Cable Bullshit by GeekHillbilly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    is getting pretty deep.Competition?In Most areas,THERE IS NO COMPETITION! Like here where I live in Southeastern Kentucky,It is either Warner Cable or nothing. And yes,customer service sucks like a Black Hole.

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    1. Re:Comcast & Warner Cable Bullshit by kelemvor4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      is getting pretty deep.Competition?In Most areas,THERE IS NO COMPETITION! Like here where I live in Southeastern Kentucky,It is either Warner Cable or nothing.

      Bingo! That's exactly why they said that the merger won't affect competition.

    2. Re:Comcast & Warner Cable Bullshit by Solandri · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes it will affect competition. The moment Comcast started charging Netflix for access, Netflix became a customer. Every website out there is now a potential customer.

      As long as Comcast and Time Warner are competing with each other, Netflix can say "Well Comcast only charged us this much, can you lower your price?" to Time Warner. But if they merge, that reduces competition. Websites have to pay more, and they'll have to charge their customers (you and me) more to compensate.

    3. Re:Comcast & Warner Cable Bullshit by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      It can be changed with 2 words "common carrier"

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  4. If the FCC and Congress was honest.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Internet would be deemed a public utility and regulated as such.
    It's raging BS that all the companies involved were given buttloads of public dollars to build out the infrastructure and did not even come close to meeting the promises they made.

    Should they merge? yes, only if they are forced to common carrier status for internet and fall under telephone regulation and requirements.

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    1. Re:If the FCC and Congress was honest.... by anagama · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes Yes Yes.

      This bullshit about not calling them common carriers simply ensures and guarantees monopoly.

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  5. A Strategic Delay by caspy7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone else think this is simply an attempt to let the issue calm down and be forgotten by the public?

    1. Re:A Strategic Delay by Bob9113 · · Score: 2

      Anyone else think this is simply an attempt to let the issue calm down and be forgotten by the public?

      I'd toss in that they're probably negotiating the sequence of events; they have to kill net neutrality soon as well. And, expect the announcements to be timed for minimal coverage, so Friday afternoon. They might even hold the net neutrality announcement to the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

  6. GOOD NEWS!!! by ganjadude · · Score: 2

    everybody!.

    Seriously this is good news that I honestly did not expect. I assumed that the FCC was paying us lip service and was going to allow it to go through unimpeded. this doesnt mean that its NOT true (they still could simply be paying lip service now) but its a good start. The logner it takes, the more time we have to bitch and moan

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    1. Re:GOOD NEWS!!! by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The FCC got a ridiculously high amount of feedback for this issue, so they have to take it slow. They still plan on letting it happen, just have to make a show of it first.

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  7. Re:I wish theyd make up their mind by BradMajors · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My experience is AT&T is worse than Comcast.

  8. Re:Abolish the FCC. by jvp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm actually still trying to figure out why the *FCC* is getting involved in this, and not the *FTC* ...

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  9. No competition by sir-gold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "However, the companies said that they are in different regions and are not going to suppress the competition."

    Technically, they are telling the truth, because they had already suppressed all competition the BEFORE merging, and there isn't any left to suppress.

  10. Re:Abolish the FCC. by sir-gold · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You really want Eric Holder (who thinks backdoors should be left open for police, and that search warrants shouldn't be neccesary for drone use or cell-tapping) controlling our countries information infrastructure?

    We would end up with rules requiring all new TV sets to have always-on cameras built in, in order to spy on the TV viewers (like the viewscreen from 1984)

  11. Re:automatic disqualifier by sir-gold · · Score: 2

    That works until at&t buys directtv, and then merges with comcast-time warner

  12. Re:Given my current install experience with TWC by sir-gold · · Score: 2

    The FCC isn't reading FCC comments either.....

  13. Re:or not renew govt enforced monopoly franchise by sir-gold · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It doesn't work to give the franchise to a smaller competitor. As soon as the smaller competitor wins the contract, it just gets bought-out by whatever mega-corp you were trying to keep out in the first place.

    This happened twice in the small town where I grew up. Every time the city tried to get rid of Charter by picking someone else, Charter would just by that other company out after the contract was awarded.

  14. Re:Time to give more politicians free cable tv and by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Informative

    However, the companies said that they are in different regions and are not going to suppress the competition.

    By surreptitiously "agreeing" to operate and different areas, they ARE suppressing competition. In most areas your "one" cable operator is the only game in town for broadband.

    DirecTV might be great for TV, but not so much for internet.

  15. Re:We are a business. by Immerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually I think their argument is closer to:

    Trust us, Comcast and Time Warner have already colluded to suppress competition, so the merger won't change anything.

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  16. Getting tired of this by Dega704 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I hear the "no reduction in competition" argument one more time, I am going to have an aneurysm. I don't even need to say what is wrong with that argument. This is about the immense power Comcast will gain by controlling a full third of Internet subscribers. Lawmakers in congress whine and moan about giving the FCC too much power with Title II, and yet some of them support letting such a behemoth, unchained monster loose on everyone? This is beyond ridiculous.

  17. My Experience With ATT by smpoole7 · · Score: 2

    For years, I used a small ISP called Hiwaay Information Services here in Alabama. Great people, I was on a first-name basis with tech support and sales. ATT owned the lines, of course, but Hiwaay bought the service wholesale and resold it to individuals like me. It cost me a little more, but if I had a problem, instead of going through ATT's byzantine voice menus and slower-than-molasses "escalations," I called and they'd hound ATT until it was fixed.

    Well worth it, in my book. I MUST have high-speed access at home for remote administration of our servers after hours.

    Then ATT introduced Uverse. We received monthly offers to switch to Uverse; I ignored them and stayed with Hiwaay. But Hiwaay finally sent me a letter: sorry, ATT is no longer making these products available to us, so we'll have to cancel your DSL. I had no choice but to go with UVerse.

    Right now, the price is less, but they could raise it in the future and there is no competition (unless I want to use dialup; forget that). They send me WEEKLY offers to use the UVerse "cable" television service. They can't stop DirecTV from selling to me, so I'm still with that. For now. :)

    Now: you decide if the big-hearted folks at Comcast and Time-Warner will do similar or equivalent things. Add to this the service that our company gets from them in some of our other markets, and I'm afraid I'm just not quite as impressed with their protestations as I might otherwise be.

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    1. Re:My Experience With ATT by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

      keep DirecTV for TV.

      I have DirecTV + ATT dsl deal right now in a UVerse area and I want to keep Directv for the TV side the HD steams limit and NO NHL NETWORK sucks.

  18. Comcast is EXTREMELY ABUSIVE, in my experience. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2

    Comcast: Most obviously abusive -- In my opinion, Comcast is apparently the most obviously abusive organization in the United States. (The financial system of the U.S. government is more abusive, in my opinion, but not as obvious.)

    I've just started Comcast internet service. It took several hours of my time to get connected because of needing to avoid the dishonesty. I've been over-billed perhaps 7 times, spent hours protesting that, and my first bill is not due yet.

    Comcast employees abuse Comcast. It's interesting to note that, when Comcast encourages employees to abuse customers, Comcast employees hear that as permission to also abuse Comcast. Comcast employees waste an enormous amount of time pretending to be friendly, apparently so they can get good results on surveys.

    Comcast abuse discussion on Reddit -- The Comcast abuse Sub-Reddit is one place to voice complaints.

    DSL Reports has information about Comcast. For example, Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ.

    Reddit has many stories in other sub-reddits like this one: Comcast, without my permission and knowledge, adds services to my account and charges me extra for it.

    The real internet connection speeds are much lower than the advertised speeds. Try the DSL Reports Flash Speed Test. There are other DSL Reports speed tests, also.

    The Numion speed test is accurate, but requires the Java plug-in.

    Most "speed tests" just show electrical connection speeds (the "line speed"), not actual data delivery speeds. They know what you want, and they lie.