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Systemd Adding Its Own Console To Linux Systems

Posted by Soulskill on from the if-you-want-something-done-right dept.

An anonymous reader writes: The next version of systemd is poised to introduce an experimental "systemd-consoled" that serves as a user-space console daemon. The consoled furthers the Linux developers' goal of eventually deprecating the VT subsystem found within the Linux kernel in favor of a user-space driven terminal that supports better localization, increased security, and greater robustness of the kernel's seldom touched and hairy CONFIG_VT'ed code.

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  1. it solves some unicode issues by behrooz0az · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is everyone so mad about it?
    Is it really just me that has a shitload of problems with the current VT?

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    1. Re:it solves some unicode issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      systemd is turning into an operating system, rather than a service.

      When your startup manager becomes more important than the kernel, you might want to rethink your design philosophy.

  2. Re:Please stop this madness! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps it's time for an "Ask Lennart Poettering".

    I still remember spending a summer loving the FreeBSD single do-all config file (it was the 90s) and being annoyed at Linux's confusing mess of an init system. It's not like Linux init is actually good... it's just a thing you know.

  3. Slashdot Response by inhuman_4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Article: Old, crusty, and possibly bug ridden part of the kernel is being moved to userspace. This new work will increase both the security and the stability of Linux systems, while adding the possibility of internationalization support.....

    Slashdot Comments: Finally some one is doing something about CONFIG_VT. People have been bitching about that for years!

    Article: this new feature is part of systemd.

    Slashdot Comments: NOOOO! Why is Lennart taking away my freedoms! I'm switching to BSD.

    It has gotten pretty clear that a lot of the hatred for systemd has nothing to do with the technical merits. This is a fix that has been a long time coming. Yet, almost half the comments are just more systemd hate fest.

  4. Nobody deserves death threats. by emil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    systemd managed to replace init, inetd, and some of cron in what appears to be a stable environment. This allowed systemd to work in docker and drastically improve Linux virtualization to leapfrog Solaris zones.

    What systemd did not do was provide reasonable documentation. RedHat's v7 inittab has a website for a blog post that sucks. There is no general intro for users attempting to create crontabs executed by systemd, inetd entries for common services, and runlevels that control groups of processes.

    systemd fell down hard on documentation, and the first blush with the unix admin crowd has not been kind.

    These developers delivered working code in a radically new environment, but without documentation the architecture appears to discriminate against people who have been doing things the same way for 30 years. The authors, and their software, appeared cliquish and discriminatory. Had the software and the documentation enabled a gradual migration into a more powerful architecture, things would have been quite different.

    In any case, this is no justification for people to be vile. The old crowd needs help into the new environment. This help needs to happen, and the insults and threats need to stop. Both sides need to work together to get us where we need to be.